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FatalException0E
June 14th, 2002, 10:46 AM
In my point of sale systems, I have a DB server running on NT4 WS and the clients are win95, using TCP/IP and MS client. I'm trying to get the WSs to log on automaticly, and I have a reg file that looks to be doing that, but is actually just bypassing the login. I found this out when I had to set up mapped drives to the NT box on one install. The WSs are using onboard Realtek 8139. Here's what I have for the reg file:

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Winlogon]
"AutoAdminLogon"="1"
"DefaultUserName"="microssvc"
"DefaulPassword"="microssvc"
"DontDisplayLastUserName"="0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Network\Real Mode Net]
"transport"=""
"netcard"=""
"LoadRMDrivers"=hex:00,00,00,00
"preferredredir"="VREDIR"
"Autologon"=hex:00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Network\Logon]
"ProcessLoginScript"=hex:01
"PrimaryProvider"="Microsoft Network"
"LMLogon"=hex:00,00,00,00
"username"="microssvc"

Any ideas :confused:

MacGyver
June 14th, 2002, 11:25 AM
I know that you can do real autologins with TweakUI.

FatalException0E
June 14th, 2002, 01:46 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacGyver:
<strong>I know that you can do real autologins with TweakUI.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd rather not use Tweak. I'd like to keep everything transparent, and minimize the chance of someone at the site changing things on us. Also, just having to run a reg file is so much easier than installing tweak and setting the info in it.
The best admins are the laziest ones :D

btw, mac....I used to have the exact model of knife that's in your avatar. Now I've got the one with a bit driver in it

pikazero
June 19th, 2002, 11:36 PM
You really should try tweakui first. This will test
to see if it is not a network problem. You can
disable other users from getting to the control
panel with poledit, and you can lock out tweakui
by locking out making registry changes in poledit.

The OTHER PROBLEM this could be is that I believe
NT workstation has a built in limitation that it
will only serve 10 users and everybody after that
gets ignored. (I know for a fact it is like this
with windows 2000 pro).

It could also possibly be a permission error. I
wasn't quite sure what you meant by "I found this
out when I had to set up mapped drives to the NT
box on one install." I'm assuming that you tried to
map a drive and it didn't work. You should make
sure that it is not completely bypassing the logon
by going to start and seeing if it says Logoff...
or logoff Microssvc. If it says logoff and ... with
no username, it's bypassing the logon. Otherwise,
it's either a permission issue or too may
connections.

With too many connections you'll either need to get
a server OS (Winnt Server, or Windows 2000, or
novell). I suggest a free unix (Bsd or linux) and
run the Samba suite, IF POSSIBLE. You may be using
some special software that requires Windows, but if
not, you'll save at least $500 if you go with Samba.
Good Luck.

The Rifleman
June 20th, 2002, 01:48 AM
Tweak ui just changes the registry for you. Install it and use it to make the change, then uninstall tweakui. The changes it makes to the registry will stay.

craigmodius
June 20th, 2002, 05:49 AM
You could always force the system to log on to ensure that it's not bypassing...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">origionaly posted by someone at WinDrivers:

I was just going through some old information I have and came up on this which I had forgotten about. In 98 a user can hit "cancel" or the "x" on the logon screen and still get to the desktop. With this easy reg fix you can disable that, and make them logon or they can't get to the desktop. The only loophole ofcourse is that you can get to the desktop in safe mode, but they won't know that:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\NETWORK\Logon

Create the following:

RegDWord named "MustBeValidated" (no quotes)

Set the value to:

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FatalException0E
June 20th, 2002, 03:53 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by craigmodius:
<strong>You could always force the system to log on to ensure that it's not bypassing...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">We're not running a domain. Even if we were, it'd be a little hard to type in a password on a computer with no keyboard. These things have touch screen only.

I'm trying to find someone who has an eval copy of Norton SysWorks so I can monitor the registry changes that Tweak makes. I'll then create a reg file from the changes. Update coming when I get it nailed down.

confus-ed
June 20th, 2002, 06:17 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FatalException0E:
<strong>...I'm trying to find someone who has an eval copy of Norton SysWorks so I can monitor the registry changes that Tweak makes. I'll then create a reg file from the changes. Update coming when I get it nailed down.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I just installed it and then looked for the key but anyways....

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows\Curr entversion\RunServices "RUNDLL32.EXE TWEAKUI.CPL,TweakLogon"

Appeared.

So I think that means that rundll uses the tweakui control panel applet to execute the method tweaklogon within it on startup....or somat...
:D