[RESOLVED] Fresh Install of Windows 95 and 98

[Apache]

H/W Config Asus A7V Mboard 128MB PC100 SDRAM STB Velocity 128 PCI Graphics Card Maxtor 7gb Hard Drive Duron 1000 Mhz CPU Mitsumi 24X CDRom Drive and LS120 SuperDisk Drive. The Power Supply Unit (PSU) is an approved 300WATT unit. I have not altered any jumper settings. I have left it in JumperFree Mode. Every time I try to install Win95 or Win98 it goes upto the point where a window says it will start the setup wizard, runs up to 100% and then just hangs (mouse pointer turns into an "hour glass"). I have other cards too ie network card sound card etc. But I have removed EVERYTHING and tried setting up Win98 (or Win95) on a basic config. It still does not run up the install. Please help!!!!

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Apache

[This message has been edited by Apache (edited November 30, 2000).]

[iamtheman]

Can't guarantee that this will help but it works for me sometimes. Have you been trying to install off of the CD? If yes try this...boot with a Windows98 diskette to DOS, that way you have generic CD-rom drivers loaded. Format the drive, create a folder called win98 and copy the contents of the win98 folder on the cd to the folder on the harddrive. Run the install from there. Post whether or not this helps

[Apache]

Well...........I tried it out but no success. Amazingly, I was able to run NT4 Workstation Install on the very firt try!!! This is getting mysterious by the minute. I always thought that NT Installs were a lot less tolerant in terms of system configs then Windows 95 or 98. So in short I am still stuck with this problem. As this PC is used by a person who does not have 100% use of her hands, it is vital that when the PC is shutdown it turns itself off. Also she has several pieces of software which require Win98 as an operating system. So please guys if anyone can help me on this one. PLEASE POST UP A SOLUTION. Thanks very much.

[Schui]

I got a similar problem with a m8's pc. AMD 550. Install Windows, and it get 90% of the way, but hangs on Saving System Configuration. Dunno what it is, but I bought a new mobo,.... gonna try it next week. If it's not a faulty part, it must be the user
argh.

Have you tried re-seating your memory, or using a different mem chip. Also, try partioning your drive 2x3.5gb. I've seen windows not like installing on large drives before..!
good luck http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif

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[Apache]

Hi Schui

OK I will try out re-seating the memory or even using a different mem chip. As for the partioning of H/drive, all I have done is create just one 1Gb partition. The rest of the h/drive is still "virgin". I STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW NT4 WORKSTATION INSTALLS UP FIRST TIME WHILST WIN98 AND WIN95 ARE GIVING ME SUCH A HARD TIME.

[shawnMt]

Duron 1000 Mhz CPU, 128MB PC100...

What's the FSB set to?

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[Nighthand]

What did I miss? Is there a Duron 1000?

[iamtheman]

LOL, ha I missed that

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[Apache]

OK when I turn on the PC the processor name and speed comes up as "Athlon 1000Mhz" it is on an A7V Asus and it is not a "slot-in" cpu. But similar to a zif socket type of a cpu (Socket A?). Over the weekend I managed to install up Winodws 98. But only after I changed the graphics card to a Matrox AGP. I then formatted the hard drive and installed Win98 all working OK now. But I have to say I do not seem to see a great improvement in speed over a PII 300Mhz MMX. Am I missing any tricks here? This evening I will try to slot in other cards. There seems to be a great amount of IRQ conflicts going on soon as I try to put in EVEN one card. To answere shawnMt, I have not altered the FSB in anyway so I guess it it set at the default Mhz. PLEASE HELP!!!!

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Apache

[xtac]

Try the latest Bios, Via 4n1 drivers, etc. There is also a new promise driver for the ata100.

Are you using the ATA100? If so, check out the configuration in Win98. Look under SCSI devices.

Don't forget to do the Win update!

[Apache]

OK Guys, looks like I have finally resolved this problem. Lots of help provided by my friend who turned out to be a REAL expert on this issue. Watch this space for the method that he used to fix this.

[Darren Wilson]

Apache

If you had posted the CORRECT DATA originally rather than telling us your Athlon was a Duron, then we might have been able to help you quicker.

It is a lot harder, in fact nigh on impossible, to give the correct fix to problems via the internet as a hands on approach is a lot quicker and easier way to solve probs.

A very easy way to stop getting help upon these forums is to 'dig' at people.

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[Apache]

I am sorry if my last post appears as if I was having a dig at people it was not meant to have come across that way and I apologise for it. When I said my friend turned out to be a real expert, I was not trying to say that people posting here are not experts. I was only commending my friend's expertise. I have nothing but good words for this forum. I HAVE picked up a lot of tips from here. Sorry for the misinformation that I gave in the first instance.Once I have detailed out the solution I WILL post this so that others who may be experiencing similar problems can solve them too. That is if it is OK by you.

[pga]

Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
It is a lot harder, in fact nigh on impossible, to give the correct fix to problems via the internet as a hands on approach is a lot quicker and easier way to solve probs.

A very easy way to stop getting help upon these forums is to 'dig' at people.




agreed on both issues....

while i can install a modem and it's drivers in less than 6 minutes start to finish while the customer waits.... it could take 30-40 minutes over the phone to walk some people through it.

trouble shooting is even worse... troubleshooting a system hands on cuts the time down by 90% vs. relaying messages.

But a simple 'thank you' to the techs for the time they spent trying to help with the limited info they were given would be nice....



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[Apache]

I guess my apology was not good enough for you. To be frank, I was so overjoyed by the fact that my PC is at last working that I overlooked a major courtesy issue. I repeat what I posted in my last message. I have nothing but good words for you and a BIG THANK YOU TO ALL who posted their responses. Judging by pga's response he is not prepared to forgive me my first mistake. So, the probablities are the my future posting will not be welcomed?

[pga]

Originally posted by Apache:
I guess my apology was not good enough for you. To be frank, I was so overjoyed by the fact that my PC is at last working that I overlooked a major courtesy issue. I repeat what I posted in my last message. I have nothing but good words for you and a BIG THANK YOU TO ALL who posted their responses. Judging by pga's response he is not prepared to forgive me my first mistake. So, the probablities are the my future posting will not be welcomed?

i wasn't really focusing on you with my post..... actually... i didn't find your post all that offensive when compared to others such as TechUK who calls the techs names and is rude as 7734. My post was meant as a general reference to others who not only are unappreciative, but also insult those who take the time to offer help for free.

so now it is my turn to apologize, as my post regarding others in general may have been assumed to be directed soley to you... I am sorry for any misunderstanding...

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[Darren Wilson]

Originally posted by Apache:
I am sorry if my last post appears as if I was having a dig at people it was not meant to have come across that way and I apologise for it. When I said my friend turned out to be a real expert, I was not trying to say that people posting here are not experts. I was only commending my friend's expertise. I have nothing but good words for this forum. I HAVE picked up a lot of tips from here. Sorry for the misinformation that I gave in the first instance.Once I have detailed out the solution I WILL post this so that others who may be experiencing similar problems can solve them too. That is if it is OK by you.

No hard feelings Apache.

You will find that most of the guys & gals on here will help if they can.

Please let us know what the problem was.

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[ftctech]

windows 95 cannot run an AMD above 300mhz
and 98 would not be able to run the 1000

[Nighthand]

Originally posted by ftctech:
windows 95 cannot run an AMD above 300mhz
and 98 would not be able to run the 1000

I have a AMD 450 that runs Win95B with the patch installed. Worked pretty well. Never had anything above an 800 so I could not say about 98 and the 1gig chip.

[Apache]

I though the PC was now OK. But guess what? It decided to give up on me. Tried to bootup on Saturday and it just hung on Windows98 screen. I had to do what I did first time around. Take out ALL THE CARDS except graphics card and network card, format the h/drive. This time I ran up an install of Win98SE instead of Win98. After the installation got the PC to bootup successfully 3 to 4 times. Shut it down, insert Adaptec 2910C, restart PC install drivers. Let it bootup successfully 3 to 4 times. Shutdown insert SoundBlaster PCI 128 Sound Card install drivers. Now all is OK but I wonder...........for how long. How long before it hangs again? Thanks for all your help so far, and will appreciate any help I can get. I have seen PCs advertised which have Athlon 1.1Ghz with Win98SE as an operating system. So I guess the install of Win98SE should work for me too. Any ideas and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a LOT.

[Apache]

I though the PC was now OK. But guess what? It decided to give up on me. Tried to bootup on Saturday and it just hung on Windows98 screen. I had to do what I did first time around. Take out ALL THE CARDS except graphics card and network card, format the h/drive. This time I ran up an install of Win98SE instead of Win98. After the installation got the PC to bootup successfully 3 to 4 times. Shut it down, insert Adaptec 2910C, restart PC install drivers. Let it bootup successfully 3 to 4 times. Shutdown insert SoundBlaster PCI 128 Sound Card install drivers. Now all is OK but I wonder...........for how long. How long before it hangs again? Thanks for all your help so far, and will appreciate any help I can get. I have seen PCs advertised which have Athlon 1.1Ghz with Win98SE as an operating system. So I guess the install of Win98SE should work for me too. Any ideas and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a LOT.

[runderwo]

If you hit F8 when Starting Windows 98 appears, and create a bootlog, examining C:\BOOTLOG.TXT will generally let you know what was causing freeze.