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Orangeman
June 25th, 2002, 02:27 PM
HI Everyone,

I bought a Win98Se upgrade disk over the Internet. Unfortunately I did not know at the time that it was made for a T1 connection. The problem is that whenever I try to install the drivers for my modem, Windows automatically asks for another set of drivers. The current set of drivers work for the Internet but not for my fax machine.

I used to know specific installation instructions on how to install the this disk without installing the T1 drivers but I've forgotten them and I can't find the original instructions. Does anyone know how to do this? :confused:

freddy
June 25th, 2002, 02:57 PM
see if someone has put an INF file in the win9x folder this is one that i have in my millenium disk (collecting dust):; MSBATCH.INF for Windows98, based on a ResKit generated
; typical install. (C) Adrian 1998 on behalf of
; MS LTDPSS, Any problems mail me - adrian.com
; For version history see EOF

[Setup]
Express=1
InstallType=3
EBD=0
ShowEula=0
ChangeDir=0
OptionalComponents=1
Network=1
System=0
CCP=0
CleanBoot=0
Display=0
DevicePath=1
NoDirWarn=1
TimeZone="GMT"
Uninstall=0
NoPrompt2Boot=1
ProductKey="XXXXXX EDITED XXXXXX XXX"

[System]
Locale=L0809
SelectedKeyboard=KEYBOARD_00000809
DisplChar=24,800,600

[NameAndOrg]
Name="REMOVED"
Org="REMOVED"
Display=0

[Network]
ComputerName="REMOVED"
Workgroup="REMOVED"
Description="REMOVED"
Display=1
PrimaryLogon=VREDIR
Clients=VREDIR
Protocols=MSTCP
Services=VSERVER
Security=SHARE

[MSTCP]
LMHOSTS=0
DHCP=1
DNS=0
WINS=D

[VREDIR]
LogonDomain="REMOVED"
ValidatedLogon=1

[VSERVER]
LMAnnounce=0
MaintainServerList=2

[OptionalComponents]
"Accessibility Options"=0
"Accessibility Tools"=0
"Briefcase"=0
"Calculator"=1
"Desktop Wallpaper"=0
"Document Templates"=0
"Games"=1
"Imaging"=0
"Mouse Pointers"=0
"Paint"=1
"Quick View"=1
"Windows Scripting Host"=1
"WordPad"=1
"Dial-Up Networking"=1
"Dial-Up Server"=0
"Direct Cable Connection"=0
"HyperTerminal"=1
"Microsoft Chat 2.1"=0
"Microsoft NetMeeting"=1
"Phone Dialer"=1
"Virtual Private Networking"=1
"Baseball"=0
"Dangerous Creatures"=0
"Inside your Computer"=0
"Jungle"=0
"Leonardo da Vinci"=0
"More Windows"=0
"Mystery"=0
"Nature"=0
"Science"=0
"Space"=0
"Sports"=0
"The 60's USA"=0
"The Golden Era"=0
"Travel"=0
"Underwater"=0
"Windows 98"=0
"Desktop Themes Support"=0
"Microsoft FrontPage Express"=0
"Microsoft VRML 2.0 Viewer"=0
"Microsoft Wallet"=0
"Personal Web Server"=1
"Real Audio Player 4.0"=0
"Web Publishing Wizard"=0
"Web-Based Enterprise Mgmt"=0
"Microsoft Outlook Express"=1
"Baltic"=0
"Central European"=0
"Cyrillic"=0
"Greek"=0
"Turkish"=0
"Audio Compression"=1
"CD Player"=1
"Macromedia Shockwave Director"=1
"Macromedia Shockwave Flash"=1
"Media Player"=1
"Microsoft NetShow Player 2.0"=0
"Multimedia Sound Schemes"=0
"Sample Sounds"=0
"Sound Recorder"=0
"Video Compression"=1
"Volume Control"=1
"America Online"=0
"AT&T WorldNet Service"=0
"CompuServe"=0
"Prodigy Internet"=0
"The Microsoft Network"=0
"Additional Screen Savers"=0
"Flying Windows"=1
"OpenGL Screen Savers"=1
"Backup"=1
"Character Map"=0
"Clipboard Viewer"=0
"Disk compression tools"=1
"Drive Converter (FAT32)"=1
"Group policies"=0
"Net Watcher"=0
"System Monitor"=1
"System Resource Meter"=0
"Web TV for Windows"=0
"WaveTop Data Broadcasting"=0

[Printers]

[InstallLocationsMRU]

[Install]
copyfiles=additions.sendto,fontdir.copy,windir.cop y
AddReg=addreg.reg,ie.settings
DelReg=Registry.Welcome

[Registry.Welcome]
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run ,Welcome,,

[addreg.reg]
; Show all files/extensions
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer \Advanced",Hidden,1,01
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer \Advanced",HideFileExt,1,00
; Set default logon to guest
HKLM,"Network\Logon",UserName,,"guest"
HKLM,System\CurrentControlSet\Control,"Current User",,"guest"
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies \Network",DisablePwdCaching,1,01,00,00,00
; Remove outlook from desktop
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run Once,LookNoOutlook,,"rundll32.exe advpack.dll,DelNodeRunDLL32 %10%\Desktop\outloo~1.lnk"

[ie.Settings]
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main","Start Page",,"about:blank"
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main","First Home Page",,"about:blank"
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main","Search Page",,"http://home.microsoft.com/search/search.asp"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main","Search Bar",,"http://home.microsoft.com/search/search.asp"
HKCU,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Help_Menu_URLs","Online_Support",,"http://support.microsoft.com/support"
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings",ProxyEnable,1,01,00,00,00
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings",ProxyOverride,,";<local>"
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings",ProxyServer,,"europroxy:80"
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Desktop\Components\0",Flags,01,00,00,00
HKCU,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\main",Show_ChannelBand,0,"no"

[DestinationDirs]
windir.copy=10
Additions.Sendto=10,SendTo
fontdir.copy=20

[windir.copy]
robocopy.exe

[additions.sendto]
notepad.lnk

[fontdir.copy]
mslogo.ttf

[SourceDisksNames]
55="Source",,0

[SourceDisksFiles]
robocopy.exe=55,,123
notepad.lnk=55,,123
mslogo.ttf=55,,123

; 1st try at WinME unattended install - Adrian 14/6/2000
; based on the Win98SE unattended install
;
; Added Robocopy + Dell Precision 410 drivers - Adrian 19/10/1998
;
; Added the MS-Font to the build - Adrian 09/07/1998
;
; OLS and Outlook express icons removed - Adrian 12/06/1998
; need custom.inf and ols.inf to work

; INF added Matrox Millennium range - Adrian 11/06/1998

; Do not display welcome, Default user, Notepad sendto
; and Show all files added manually - Adrian 21/05/1998

; IE4 settings added, channel bar disabled - Adrian 22/05/1998

maybe u should look for something like this , and then copy it and all the cabs to a directory and run from there after altering the file to suit your needs.

word of thought (gotto say this) : If this is a "copy" then I don,t think it will be "legal" unless u have a "cirtificate" with it.

so before any "do gooders" say anything I have expressed a thought ,,,

Carry on.

FtF

NooNoo
June 25th, 2002, 04:03 PM
Freddy I quite agree, I know of no known case of someone "buying from the net" a T1 ready Upgrade disk.

Orangeman
June 25th, 2002, 04:21 PM
Actually it was. The person selling it didn't specify it as such, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. It was made sold by a special agreement with Microsoft to users of 3-Com software for use with T-1 connection devices.

There also was a way to install the OS without installing the modem software. - I've done it before.

The person selling it to me gave me the instructions. Unfortunately I lost them and it was over a year ago. I don't remember what they were. It was some special trick with going into advanced or custom install menu and unclicking the 3-com box. The problem is that I can't find that advanced or custom install button. :confused:

Irish Shark
June 25th, 2002, 04:28 PM
Is this Modem/Fax Machine a USRobotics by chance??
I hade the same thing happen with a 28.8 Winmodem that Win98SE set as a T1. It worked fine, but downloading the right drivers from USR (which is allways an adventure) dialed it in.

Irish Shark
June 25th, 2002, 05:09 PM
Is this Modem/Fax Machine a USRobotics by chance??
I hade the same thing happen with a 28.8 Winmodem that Win98SE set as a T1. It worked fine, but downloading the right drivers from USR (which is allways an adventure) dialed it in.

Orangeman
June 25th, 2002, 05:49 PM
Thanks for asking Irishshark,

The modem itself is a Gateway Telepath with X2. The problem I am having is that I am not able to use the drivers the modem came with because when I restart the computer and see "New Hardware Detected" sign I get a Gateway Telepath with X2 pop-up that automatically switches to a Winmodem Drivers pop-up. Then it asks for the Win98Se disk, not the Telepath Floppy disk. I think it is the only set of 56k drivers that work with this particular disk.

Anyway, the only way I can stop the erroneous popup is if I try to install the modem manually. When I try this I get an error message saying "cannot find Winmodem drivers, modem not installed."

The disk is a Win98SE installation disk that was specially made to work with a T1 connection. I used to know how to install the disk without the special drivers but now I have forgotten. That is the problem.

The drivers themselves work okay online but don't work with my fax machine.

Orangeman
June 25th, 2002, 09:08 PM
Hi Everyone,

I answered my own question. I reserached custom install of Win98 and found that there is a place for it in step 5 of the setup operation, just after the computer checks to see if there is enough disk space for instalation.

However in my case that did not happen. The place where I should been able to check a custom installation did not exist. Therefore I must have some kind of corrupted disk.

This isn't anything Windrivers can help with, I have to get a new one.

Thanks for all your help,
Orangeman :o

NooNoo
June 26th, 2002, 04:30 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Irish Shark:
<strong>Is this Modem/Fax Machine a USRobotics by chance??
I hade the same thing happen with a 28.8 Winmodem that Win98SE set as a T1. It worked fine, but downloading the right drivers from USR (which is allways an adventure) dialed it in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Gateway Telepath X2 is made by USR for Gateway Shark, so that may have a bearing on Orangemans problem.

Orangeman
June 27th, 2002, 05:52 AM
I logged onto the Gateway site and discovered some fascinating things. First, for some reason this particular modem shows up as a 3com T1 modem when it is installed with Win98Se. You were right NooNoo!. There is no such thing as a custom made 3com T1 installation for Win98SE.

Second, when I updated the drivers from the Gateway site I used the fax machine correctly!!!!

Problem Solved,

Thanks People :cool: :) :D

NooNoo
June 27th, 2002, 06:49 AM
Cool Orangeman, thanks for taking the time to PM me too. Looks like Irish Shark had the key here.

Windows and USR are sometimes odd bedfellows! :D

Orangeman
June 27th, 2002, 02:57 PM
Thanks to you too IrishShark,

You were right. That 3-Com modem was the key. For some odd reason the Telepath for Windows changes to 3Com T1 in the device manager even though it is still a Telepath modem. It is certainly 56k I am not using a T1 Connection.

Although I still haven't solved the riddle of the custom install I am glad to report that my modem i still working properly. I swear that I do remember doing a custom install when I first got the disk, however I also do NOT remember the modem ever working properly.

Thanks again,

Orangeman :) :p :D <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :cool: