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Proch
June 13th, 1999, 10:14 AM
I'm going to be a fence sitter on this one.
Both Havoc and Darren have good points. As someone who has been hiring people for our copmany a stupd peice of MS test paper and a few yearsin the industry means nothing. I've met alot of peple over the past two weeks who are simply clueless. However, Microsoft is driven by competition instead of quality, and such has opted to release some of the biggest software tradgedies that has marred our industry. By the way I can't type and spell at the same time so screw havOc. I'm really very good but this is not the time nor the place for and english lesson. I digress--- NT4 is a prime example how many Service Packs does it take to secure or ensure a crash-free system eh? SP4 was a joy to try and get out of my server ( and yes I tested it on my backup server not a primary server)(sarcasim intended here)

I'm trying to transfer my systems over to Linux simply because there are people behind the project that beleive in the "higher" goal of better code. But I still need a MS system while I wait for the rest of the industry to catch up. Linux is not there yet but I intend to help it get there faster if only to bankrupt an undeserving company that has held us by the nuts for so long.

I've been running AMD chips for the past two years and have abaondoned Intel who seems to be getting a little to up in itself, (just have a read about ERATTA and take a look at some of the dumbd down Intel chip SPECS). they haven;t had an original chip design in a while guys they just get smaller and hotter. I'm sorry but Apple has got us all beat they're faster than all of us and cooler to they just suck as a company for us poor guys that like pissing around with thier computer into the wee-hours of the night. AMD is the better chip against Intel and they're not cheating by making a bigger socket system either!!!.

Anyways, Hardware is an issue though when it comes to stability. It doen't take much to kill a system. Linux neewbies can tell you this, one bad script and your can fry your NIC, MS is not above this and as builders, amdins and users we have a responsibility to the industry to look at ourselves as well as hold software developers to a higher standard. It's the only way were going to get better.

This is a great forum, and I'll register after I get some paint on my poor VW. I'm almost 11 years in the industry and an MS/ Novell/ Unix Admin with a background of Basic/ C/ C++/ Pascal/ Fortran and COBOL
(I was programming when I was 10yrs old and admining since I was 17) -- I still have a loooong way to go before I can call myself any type expert which is silly anyways because our industry reinvents itself every financial quarter anyways right???.

-- By the way I'm not in a pissing contest on qualifications. Just letting you know where I'm coming from so you can weight my words. There are a few million others with 100% better credentials than I.

Oh sh-- this is a tech forum not a politics hissy fit... sorry.. I'll contriubte when the paint dries -- hvae to jet. I have much to say on Win98-- but I still use OSR2 on most my systems simply because it's stable.

What Game?? I duno no game? - Here's typing at yah.

hit me at lewis_cs@hotmail.com (yes it's an MS mailer but it works... most of the time <grin>.)

Darren Wilson
June 13th, 1999, 02:27 PM
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Whatever people post in any bulletin board, chatroom, etc, I cannot think of ONE topic in which EVERYONE agrees on!!!!!!!!!!!

I know that I have instigated a near riot by stating my findings of Win98se, but I will stand by my guns on the fact that it is not worth paying the extra for a cuple of supposed bug fixex & the updates that 99.9% of users who have the net have already installed.

I agree that if used correctly Linux is moire stable than any variant of windows, but it can be as buggy as any Microsoft product if the kernel is not compiled right. If you look at how many service packs are released in a year for NT & how many updates/upgrades for Linux are released then Linux ( to the unknowledged eye would seem the buggier ).

If Linux or other O/S's where as ' User Friendly ' as Windows is, then I for one, would be the first in the queue.

As you might have seen in the SE forum, I have revoked a few of my statements, but I still stand firm on my comments that Win98SE is just Win98 with IE5 & the updates ( with other bugs / features ) built in.

I agree also , that Hardware is a major factor in stability & it disgusts me when people tell someone that they are using crap comonents when they don't know what they are using????!!!!!!!

I haven't posted a complete spec of my stsem due to the fact that everybody would think I was boasting ( just like when I defended myself againest Hav0c when I stated my qualifications ).

As for the spelling debate, if I mistype a few letters when I am typing at extreme speed without looking at the keyboard, I am being basically called a retard. This is coming from someone who can't even spell their own name correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well if in future people want me to keep my findings & opinions to myself then I will, and let all the losers post flames & crap advice to the people who need the kind of postings that I and other genuine people post.

As for the Apple comment, each to their own. I myself, cannot personally stand Apple systems, I have found them to be slower ( personal opinions don't forget, before I get all the flame mail again ) than an equivalent PC.

Proch, if you would like to corrspond more on this topic, then you can obviously e-mail me by using the e-mail function at the top of this post or leave more messages here.

Oh , for all you people out there who think I run Windrivers with Scott the DriverGuy, sorry but I don't , but I do put a lot of time into these forums and do notify Scott of new drivers from time 2 time.

I have posted this message twice in a couple of forums so everyone can read it, so please be patient .

Darren Wilson
Forum Moderator & Technical Manager of a Chain of PC shops in the UK

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