NIC's Are Weird....

[Liquidtruth]

If a computer with a Network Card is having trouble shutting down.. Plug in a Network Cable... It may shut down fine for you after that... It sucks when things won't shut down because they're looking for things on the Network.

http://liquidtruth.50megs.com

[crtlaltdel]

I've seen that a zillion times what a hassle, even after applying updates still no luck. I don't waste my time anymore, I just tell them to turn the machine off and disable scandisk after bad shutdown

[kingtbone]

Heh, one time I couldn't get this person's PC to shut down properly, I tried everything, but had no luck. They weren't satisfied with just shutting down anyway and skipping scandisk, so I downloaded TweakUI, and set scandisk to never run automatically. Then I openned logos.sys in Paint (It's the filename of the picture that's displayed when you shut down -- "You may now shut down...") and saved it as logow.sys, which is the picture that says "Please wait while your computer shuts down. The user didn't know the difference and thought I fixed it. Hoohaha

[MacGyver]

Now that is downright EVIL.

I like it. :D

Originally posted by kingtbone:
The user didn't know the difference and thought I fixed it. Hoohaha

[kingtbone]

Normally I would have a problem with something like this, but refer to my post here (http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum3/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=16&t=001058) and you'll understand. To top it all off, I have to go back there today, because he called this morning. His power button is broken. ARGH

[Humilliation]

I know in W2K Pro you can disable the nic before shutting down, but how would you disable a nic in WinNT or Win98/95? I ask this because my Win98 machine hangs during the boot process and the shutdown process. Any pointers on how to go about Enabling/Disabling the nic in Win95/98? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

[crtlaltdel]

I know microsoft has some what they call updates to fix the shutdown problem, but they never seem to update nothing.

[Joker1]

either plug in a damn network cable or get rid of the nic.

Sorry, but isnt it obvious.

[Humilliation]

Originally posted by Joker1:
<STRONG>either plug in a damn network cable or get rid of the nic.

Sorry, but isnt it obvious.</STRONG>

Is my question obvious? How would you go about disabling the NIC in Win9x? I can disable the NIC in W2K Pro and server but not in Win9x. And yes, my two computers are networked together, I just don't want to have to run both systems constantly. I've noticed if I disable the NIC before shutting down in W2K the computer shuts down quicker and starts up alot quicker with the NIC disabled. Norton Anti-Virus also starts enabled where as if the NIC is enabled everything takes awhile before loading in W2K. So to get back to my question, how do you disable\enable the NIC in Win9x?

[Joker1]

sorry bout that

to disable the nic go into device manager under my computer and double clicked on the nic, right on the general tab there is an option to "disable in this hardware profile"

i'm not sure how quick this option is, it might take a reboot to put in effect in which case it would be useless. is your network using dynamic or static IPs? if their not static it would explain why it takes so long to boot. also make sure there isnt any extra protocols your not using.

[Wildman6971]

You can make a small loop back cable and this fools the nic into thinking it's on a network at the hardware level.

[Humilliation]

Originally posted by Joker1:
<STRONG>sorry bout that

to disable the nic go into device manager under my computer and double clicked on the nic, right on the general tab there is an option to "disable in this hardware profile"
</STRONG>

Now this was definetly obvious and I overlooked it. Thanks Joker1


Originally posted by Joker1: <STRONG>
i'm not sure how quick this option is, it might take a reboot to put in effect in which case it would be useless. is your network using dynamic or static IPs? if their not static it would explain why it takes so long to boot. also make sure there isnt any extra protocols your not using.</STRONG>

The reboots no big deal, the computers aren't communicating all of the time. I would just like to be able to boot up quicker and shut down quicker when networking isn't required. I just like to be able to download stuff on one computer and use the other while the other is downloading stuff for all of the systems I have, then once everything I need is on the one system I enable the network to stream the download to the system that needs the patch or driver.

I don't know if it's static or dynamic. How can I tell, where should I look?

As for the Protocols I've got NetBEUI and Internet (TCP/IP) besides the Clients for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks. If I remove the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) my modem gets all screwy and things don't work right.

Thanks for the info Joker1, it seems to be working.

[SB]

Originally posted by kingtbone:
<STRONG>The user didn't know the difference and thought I fixed it. Hoohaha</STRONG>

Yep, dowright evil - inventive, but still evil <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[CodeDragon]

Originally posted by humiliation:
<STRONG>
I don't know if it's static or dynamic. How can I tell, where should I look?.</STRONG>

A simple way is to run MSDOS Prompt and type ping X where X is the network name of your computer. If the response is something like:

Reply from 192.168.0.X blah blah (where X is any number)

then they're dynamically set by Window's ICS DHCP Host. Otherwise, they're static (unless you're on a network with its own DNS Server and IP Addresses)... But I digress.

Originally posted by humiliation:
<STRONG>
If I remove the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) my modem gets all screwy and things don't work right.
</STRONG>

Damn right they wont. IP is the basis of internet communications, and TCP is what protocols like FTP, HTTP, NNTP and SMTP are built on, so without the TCP/IP protocol, your modem hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of connecting to the internet properly. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Hope this helps

Cad

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