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archangel
October 2nd, 2000, 03:26 PM
The only time I ever used an antivirus was when I was at school and my friends would use thier disks (always infected) in my computer. Since getting home, I have avoided installing an antivirus, and have never been infected.
My question is, do you use an antivirus, why or why not. If so, what do you use?

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SavagePenguin
October 2nd, 2000, 03:43 PM
I've only had one run-in with a virus. I had "borrowed" my friend's copy of Windows 3.11 and picked up a virus called "exekiller." Served me right.

I received a trial copy of Norton's Antivirus which expired last week, and about a year ago I did a McAfee trial so I could make an anti-virus boot disk for a friend. But those are the only times I've used virus protection.

If you keep up with your Windows Critical Updates, don't run weird files, don't swap software, don't surf questionable sites, and keep an eye out for email viruses and you should be alright.

DonJ
October 2nd, 2000, 09:28 PM
Yes, I use McAfee. I don't let it run in the background as it hogs too many resources, memory, etc. It is only enabled while accessing the web, downloading files, and checking e-mails.
It is just like safe sex...don't put your floppy in anybody else's computer and don't let them put their floppy in yours!
Good Luck!
DonJ

pga
October 3rd, 2000, 05:58 PM
"Since getting home, I have avoided installing an antivirus, and have never been infected"

How do you know that you do not have a virus??? If it's a date triggered virus or one of the latest email viruses, you probably wouldn't be able to tell until it was too late and after you infected everyone else you know.

We remove about 20 or so viruses per month, it seems as though over the past few years viruses are easier to get, primarily due to the internet.

I personally favor Norton AntiVirus, I haven't used McAffee since Win95b (McAffee's screen scan would screw up with open gl screen savers, or the system would hang on boot up... so i developed an attitude)

Jeff the Brit
October 3rd, 2000, 09:29 PM
I like F-Prot ....free for personal use, fast, reliable and, being a DOS proggy, works when Windoze won't ... www.complex.is/f-prot (http://www.complex.is/f-prot) is the place to go.

shawnMt
October 4th, 2000, 12:17 AM
I use Mcafee on fast machines, PCCillin on older machines (less machine intensive.)

I always disable the screen scan and webscan x in MC

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Green Iguana
October 4th, 2000, 02:14 AM
I run Norton A/V on my systems. I just don't let it load on start up. Only use it when needed.

AlienDyne
October 4th, 2000, 06:29 AM
I use Norton Antivirus.

You should perform an antivirus check. You will be amazed when you see the first infected file on your system!

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Jgold47
October 4th, 2000, 11:52 PM
dont use any and i download a lot with no problems

MadDog
October 5th, 2000, 12:45 AM
Got the "Happy" virus a year ago. Luckily, it wasn't malicious.

Now, I use McAfee.


Heck, we still have people (engineers) at work opening e-mail attachments with the "ILOVEYOU" virus...

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Skip
October 5th, 2000, 01:46 AM
I use AVP on my home machine, but i make it so it dosent start automatically, & i scan my HD like once a month or if i see somthing that looks suspicious, but i ve never found anything & on machines in the shop i use Mcaffe on a bootable floppy disk

crazyman
October 5th, 2000, 01:51 AM
I use norton on all 4 of mine,I would never be with out atleast something,I'll bet that all those poeple that do not use or don't like AV apps have not had to deal with an invasion on their pc.If you have enough ram and configure the AV app correctly,then resources should not be a problem.these guys that don't use av apps probably don't back up anything either, or use firewall software.(I use zonealarm pro).oh well,everybody learns sooner or later.

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sprkymrk
October 5th, 2000, 07:25 AM
I used to use Norton 5.0, then Mc afee, Then NAV2000, and now I use the one from Mjeinex which works okay and is not a system hog. I don't have it run in the backround, just on demand and I do a full scan about once a month.
Last year I got the "ILOVEYOU" bug, which surprised me since I never recieved any e-mail on it. Apparently got it from a web site, it was found and quarentined by Norton in my TempInternet cache. No damage.
To all who are just "careful" and don't use AV, please don't put me in your address book!
Mark

Jvaguy
October 5th, 2000, 07:38 AM
I use norton antivirus 2001 and f-prot ... depends on what im doing ... i get peoples systems in all the time and find virus's and other stuff now if people would update them .. but then again how would i make money on those repairs .. sounds mean but yet they should update and not run those files (like 8987.exe) would you open a file you didnt know?

archangel
October 5th, 2000, 08:21 AM
I don't use an antivirus because I don't open up just any attachment. I also don't use Microsoft Outlook or outlook express so I don't worry about MS viruses (seems that most viruses now a days attack MS). I am also carefull about people using my machine. I have a strick policy: NO ONE USES A FLOPPY DISK THAT HAS BEEN IN ANOTHER COMPUTER. Everyone in the house has to follow the rule or there profile in 2000 is gone and they can't log on.

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pga
October 5th, 2000, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by archangel:
I don't use an antivirus because I don't open up just any attachment.



You don't have to open an email attachment to get a virus; you can get viruses through many different ways... As I said before.. How do you KNOW you don't have a virus.

Over the past year, most of the viruses we have removed were because the customer viewed an email from a "friend" or relative that they knew!! The only problem was that their trusted friend didn't know her just sent the virus to two friends, and they sent to two friends and so on.. and so on

We remove viruses all the time, good income for us.... the customer usually brings up the points that you did... but after the customer gets one... they buy an AV program from us...


The only way to prevent getting a virus is "abstinence"... don't use the computer.

I can't get VD/AIDS!! Because:
I'm not gay! I always pull out! I'm careful with who I sleep with! I only sleep with girls that look clean/healthy! She said I was the first! I only use clean needles! I don't use public drinking fountains! I don't hug people with AIDS! For the love of God... wear a condom... it's dangerous out there!!

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Grider
October 5th, 2000, 08:59 AM
Norton Enterprise 7.0 on the network here, Its a bit of a hog, but I rather have a hog than a bunch of blank hard drives....

skut
October 5th, 2000, 09:02 AM
like aforementioned, you dont have to open an attachment to get virused via email. and its not only in just MS products. netscape did have a problem w/ "brown orifice."

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JeffyCool
October 5th, 2000, 09:03 AM
I run CA's InoculateIT PE. It's FREE!!! Uses very little resources. They update EVERYDAY!
www.CA.com (http://www.CA.com)

I've never really had any problems with viruses myself, but friends of mine that use disks in University computer have. I think automatic A: drive protection is essential.

opiate
October 5th, 2000, 09:28 AM
I've been a hardcore tech for about 6 years now. Over the last 2-3 I've been working as a Computer Programming Consultant. There has only been 1 time that I have had a virus problem. It was a MBR virus (fix fdisk c: /mbr). Don't remember what it was. I think virus protection is over rated. I hate virus software and will never put it on any of my systems. Remember way back when, Semantec came out with there A/V software? They had so many problems with it.

Just the other day I was working on one of my consulting contracts and I received this Bulls**t email.

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URGENT WARNING FROM MICROSOFT
1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled "CALIFORNIA". IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more so than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet
Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so propagate it as fast as possible.
2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday" DO NOT open it. It will
erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter to as many people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus

Jeff Pace
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People get a kick out sending crap like this. It makes them think that they are doing something useful in the Computer Industry and automatically know everything about computers.

Now, If a company is not setting up any kind of A/V gateway on there email servers or even allowing users to download stuff off the net and bitch about it....OOOOOOOhhhhhhh...Nooooo it cost us 1.3 million is damages.

First of all, if it was that much then go buy your self a new Network Staff for christ sake.

I for one am tired of all this mumbo virus BS.

Corey Harbaugh
Senior Software Analyst
Kansas City, MO

crazyman
October 5th, 2000, 09:41 AM
so you think the virus thing is just crap?why not be safe?they really do exist !I don't need auto insurance,I have never been in an accident!


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opiate
October 5th, 2000, 09:51 AM
No it’s not all crap. I just got a long wind and stired some past incidences.

VIRUSES PUT TECHNOLOGY IN CHECK.

Thanks,

Corey

Originally posted by crazyman:
so you think the virus thing is just crap?why not be safe?they really do exist !I don't need auto insurance,I have never been in an accident!


Palm.Vapor
9/22/00 9/22/00
Palm.Phage.Dropper

**No sense in quoting 77 lines of viruses when they are right above in the previous post** shawnMt





[This message has been edited by shawnMt (edited October 05, 2000).]

Gabriel
October 5th, 2000, 09:53 AM
Not using antivirus is a plain computer suicide
not to mention stupidity

machinex
October 5th, 2000, 10:12 AM
Ive only had one virus that devistated my system. Back in my rookie days, I got ahold of this program and I didnt have a virus scanner but I ran it anyway and wouldnt you know, a big black screen with a message from the programmer came up, the last sentence reading "I hope you backed up your data somewhere" To make a long story short I had no choice but to reboot and when the pc fired back up there was no OS cept a DOS promt and if you did a dir you just got 100 or so lines saying "You are f*cked" over and over. Looking back on it, it was kind of funny (i really didnt have anything important on the system at the time) but i was pretty hot when i saw that message.

Of course after that I snatched up a virus scanner real quick, and even though i still have one (Norton Antivirus 2000) I dont leave it on auto protect, i just use it every now and then if Im skeptical about something. Cant hurt to have around.

Jallentino
October 5th, 2000, 10:21 AM
NORTON !!!!!!!!!

oldman
October 5th, 2000, 11:12 AM
anyone that does not have an antivirus program on their computer is asking for problems. if you are that arrogant or ignorant to think it can't happen to you then you should not be working on customer computers or even owning one.

have been running av all the time and will come across a virus at least once a week and will clean 3 to 4 a week from customer machines.

wbatten
October 5th, 2000, 11:19 AM
I have always used NAV, currently I am using NAV2001.
I don't have it running in the back ground
I only have it scan my e-mail's
I do a manual scan once a week

I run NAV in the background if i am going in the NewsGroups, I have been infected when I received pitures for hardware ID in news groups.


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Pyroate
October 5th, 2000, 11:19 AM
I repair anywhere from 5 to 25 viral infected systems a week. So I have a Stand Alone virus machine with Norton's, AVP, Fprot, Panda, and PCillion. And no one catches all the virus but each has it's strong points and so I am able to catch and clean 99% without a wipe and reload of the OS.

k9fto
October 5th, 2000, 11:36 AM
We use Nortons Enterprise Edition and it has really saved our skins on more than one occassion. I work on a network within a network (county agency so we are "an island of technology" acording to our Central Technology Center) and it caught the I love You VBS early and once it did, we reconfigured our exhange gateway to strip any and all VBS coming in. We did not loose a single PC! I use a personal Firewall (zonealarm corporate) and Norton 2000 and thanks to friends, It has been well tested. So far so good.....

Not having AVP on your system in todays society is like playing russian roulette with an automatic handgun!

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k9fto
October 5th, 2000, 11:38 AM
We use Nortons Enterprise Edition and it has really saved our skins on more than one occassion. I work on a network within a network (county agency so we are "an island of technology" acording to our Central Technology Center) and it caught the I love You VBS early and once it did, we reconfigured our exhange gateway to strip any and all VBS coming in. We did not loose a single PC! I use a personal Firewall (zonealarm corporate) and Norton 2000 and thanks to friends, It has been well tested. So far so good.....

Not having AVP on your system in todays society is like playing russian roulette with an automatic handgun!

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Im a pedophiles worst nightmare, gun totin' computer geek with a badge!!

eenge99
October 5th, 2000, 11:42 AM
Beware of the MATRiX virus. It infects your Windows\System dir and eventually damges the OS beyond repair. Client had McAfee and it couldn't clean the damged file, only delete it, and that was with the most recent DAT files. NAV 2000, on the other hand, could repair the files if I could only get Add/Remove programs to work!


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Gumby
October 5th, 2000, 12:13 PM
At the repair shop where I work we fix about 15 virus infected machines every week. It is a good business for us. Most are on machines owned by businesses where the data has not been backed up and is mission critical. I used to think it was funny because I hated anti-virus software and never used it, I was just carefull. When the AMD Athlons came out last year, I built one for myself. I have a love afair with this computer. Top shelf components on everything. One week after I get it assembled, I get a virus. It wasnt bad enough to really cause serious damage except to my psyche. Now I use McAffe Online, mostly cause it seems less invasive than other suites and cause it is always up to date. Most people wont use Anti-Virus till it happens to them. I should have just been practicing what I preach to my customers.

Gumby

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kannibul
October 5th, 2000, 12:37 PM
the only virus i have ever gotten is NYB and ANTI-CMOS, from a borrowed win95b+ - the boot disk was infected, sad part is, this is the one that the local chop shop gave me (good 'friends' of mine)
they made a copy of thier 'shop' version that they used on everyones computer....
as for what i use, the latest and greatest norton has to offer. and i let it run in the background, because i have a 600athlon with 256mb ram, and running win2k - take system resources away - not a chance... only about half a meg to 1.5mb of ram, and NO cpu time :-)

theycallmestick
October 5th, 2000, 12:47 PM
i know for a fact that antivirus software isn't crap b/c we had an outbreak of the "poppy woobie" virus. It's a worm for ms office that says "USERNAME is a fat stupid jerk!" pretty funny, but annoying. But never have i installed it on my personal computer. I have also never run into a virus problem.

What's a spoon?

hi_tek
October 5th, 2000, 12:50 PM
I have McAfee installed at home, but I don't let it hog all my resources.... Just check the emails and downloads....Never had a virus yet....(Knocking on wood)

AgapeBurt
October 5th, 2000, 01:03 PM
I have found that Norton doesn't find many trojans, I use PC Cillin and have never had a problem with it. I like the user interface, and it is not a resource hog like McAfee. Running an antivirus has saved me several times when a customer brings me a disk or a system. When I failed to run an antivirus and didn't write one of my test disks, I infected 6 different customers computers before I discovered it.

Sharlet
October 5th, 2000, 01:11 PM
I would not be without an antivirus program. It has saved me many a problem over the years. I currently use Norton 2000 but don't run it in the background, just on demand.

xtech-isme
October 5th, 2000, 01:54 PM
Not having a good virus checker is just like not having safe SEX! To me somebody who says, I don't use a virus checker is the lamebrain who cries that he is such a good TECH!! And that he knows everything about everthing!

gren
October 5th, 2000, 02:02 PM
erasing eprom ......

writing eprom 1fff
5fff

Press ESC and restart

Pc__Tech
October 5th, 2000, 04:22 PM
I have been using Mcafee for years now and never had a virus, then 3 days ago, my anti-virus disappeared and I got to worm viruses. Was a big pain to remove and wasted plenty of time reinstalling mcafee, upgrading, checking the rest of my network (7 comps)and then getting rid of them. I will always double check my anti-virus now!! Learned my lesson!

Sckott
October 5th, 2000, 04:30 PM
Norton Anti-Virus. NOT SYSTEM WORKS OR NORTON UTILITIES!!!

Listen clearly... NORTON ANTI-VIRUS.

All hail NAV.

-Sckott

Chunga
October 5th, 2000, 06:03 PM
All McAfee, all the time...it doesn't pay to be careless...just open the wrong attachment, and *poof!*, there goes the stuff...

Rkring1
October 5th, 2000, 07:17 PM
I've used NAV , McAfee , and PC cillin and thought they worked fine , but am currently using Computer Associates Inc. free AV program .InoculateT seems to do the job just fine,it has caught virus infected e-mail several times for me , and it is updated on an almost daily basis.I put a shortcut to the site on computers that I build for customers and most of them are using it and like it.Resource useage aside , how do you know how to rate one of these programs??You don't really know if it is good or bad until it fails you , you can test w/ the eicar string but somehow that seems inadequate.Does anyone know of a site that rates AV programs ??

furlong47
October 5th, 2000, 08:34 PM
Currently I am using Norton Anti-Virus, it came with my computer, like many people I don't have it running in the background but I run frequent system scans. After a virus destroyed the first hard drive on my 486 waaay back when, I've never been without protection.

WickedTech
October 6th, 2000, 03:49 PM
I use McAfee at home, but like everybody else here; I won't let it run in the background. I've yet to seen ANY a/v program that will run in the background and not eat 90% or more of a station's resources.

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MAYHEM
October 6th, 2000, 05:47 PM
I use Norton, but only from the Emergency Floppies. Scan all my drives once a month or if I suspect I have one. But I haven't had a virus in 5 yrs.

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Who the hell is General Protection and why is he messing with my comuter?

RLD
October 6th, 2000, 11:15 PM
In the last month I have had these on my machine:
TROJ_ICQREVENGE
DVWSSR
TR.BO.Srv
Has anybody heard of these or know what they do?

LowTech
October 8th, 2000, 10:51 AM
Norton sux ....
USE F-PROT !!!

unlike Norton and Mcafee you don't have to install it on your HD. you can run it(in dos or windoze) from a zipdrive or CD.

thanks DataFellows !!!

Revenant
October 9th, 2000, 09:54 AM
Well, my doc says that maybe in a few years they'll have a good antivirus for what I have, but until then I just have to grin and scratch it...

heh, j/k

I use McAfee, all the way baby. Just fixed one ladies comp with 5 unique viruses and over 100 infected files. Actually had to use the DOS scan version of McAfee to get rid of all. And as has been said before, "How do you know you don't have a virus until you run a scan?" I please don't tell me you run a scan off of a CD... How in God's name do you apply a virus update patch to a read only format? or do you only check for the viruses released prior to 1998?

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SavagePenguin
October 9th, 2000, 11:21 AM
I don't have a virus scanner on my computer. For now, TechTV has a free online scanner (uses Norton's) at: <a href="http://www.techtv.com/">http://www.techtv.com</a>
One scanner will look for (obvious) network vulnerability. The other will search for viruses.

According to the site 15% of the people who took tested their computers had a virus. 4% had a trojan horse. 82% were clean.

Garfeild_Cat
October 10th, 2000, 11:13 PM
I really hate to rain on the "no use AV" (grunt grunt uuggghhhhh) parade.

You obviously have never dealt with a fun one like stealth-c that wipes out the cd rom drive then mutates and takes out msdos.sys or io.sys

Or perhaps you were LUCKY enough to not have any new viruses "not classified yet" on your machine that wiped it out. N.A.V. does scan for virus like behavior to 'help' prevent the unknown.

Or better yet the "PrettyPark" worm that will make your customer's VERY Happy. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/biggrin.gif

Last year a "tech shop" closed down. I knew the owner and was given the opportunity to buy some of the tech stock (dianostic software, utilities etc). 20+ Floppies (bootable ones from MS included) were infected with some sort of virus. NO THEY DID NOT USE AN A.V. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/eek.gif

They lost customer's (this is a small area) and the customer's did not tell them why. They just got fed up with reloading the machines and losing data.

Just my 2 cents.... Want to lose customers... just compound their "problems" by infecting their machines. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/rolleyes.gif

archangel
October 13th, 2000, 08:45 AM
So after reading all these posts, I decided to install an antivirus on my computer. I got CA's InoculateIT. Ran a scan and no viruses. But I guess you guys are right, better safe then sorry. I still can't bring myself to let it do active file scan (I hate having things open in the back ground). I only had it check floppy disks when they were read.

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Digi-Recon
October 13th, 2000, 04:17 PM
One of the first things I do, when I get a new system built, is put on Norton. I always turn on the auto-protect and do a monthly scan of everything. I've found several virus that the auto-pro didn't see or got on my system before I updated. At first I didn't believe I would EVERY get a virus on my system, but I stuck a disk in my dad's system and Norton went nuts saying there was a virus on the floppy. The very same floppy I had be using for my school work for the past two weeks. I've also found several Trojans on my system. I also have a firewall to keep every one else out. I just think it's good sense to have one.

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Digi-Recon
October 13th, 2000, 04:43 PM
One more note. A friend of mine, at one of our bi-monthly gaming LANs, tried to get a file from another friend, but Norton wouldn't let him. The other guy was making fun of my friend and was saying there was no way he had a virus. He eventually let my friend, after being hounded and threatened by the rest of us, do a scan of his drive thru drive mapping. Turns out he had about 13 different viruses on his system. He decided to fdisk and reinstall his system. You can guess who got the last laugh that night.

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From the dark of night, comes... WHAT DO YOU MEAN INVALID PAGE FAULT!!

pga
October 13th, 2000, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by archangel:
So after reading all these posts, I decided to install an antivirus on my computer..... better safe then sorry.


Thank god!

yu da man... 50 some odd posts later http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/wink.gif
Peer Pressure... who says it's bad?????

wgbjr
October 15th, 2000, 06:48 PM
I use NAV 2001. I have to since all my friends without virus scanners are always sending me viruses. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif

BreakWindows
October 15th, 2000, 09:18 PM
after reading all these posts, l realized 1 thing:
Apparantly, not using AV software makes you a grunting idiot, or a hard-*** knowitall.

l used Windows for several years, using AV's on and off...and got viruses both WITH and without. slight sarcasm: Having software check your downloads is no substitute for just deleting those damn stupid cutesy little email attatchments people send you, and just deleting porno .exe's! Please, everyone, unite and ban executables that don't do anything useful!

For the record: l don't use any AV's. Of course, l only run programs/scripts that are open source and/or from a reliable, trusted source.

archangel
October 16th, 2000, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by pga:
Thank god!

yu da man... 50 some odd posts later http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/wink.gif
Peer Pressure... who says it's bad?????

No one, but my parents didn't buy it when I started drinking and smoking... Perhaps I should start a Jumping of a bridge thread and prove my parents wrong when they asked me about everyone jumping of a bridge.

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pga
October 16th, 2000, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by archangel:
No one, but my parents didn't buy it when I started drinking and smoking... Perhaps I should start a Jumping of a bridge thread and prove my parents wrong when they asked me about everyone jumping of a bridge.



ROTFLMAO!!

Hey... if i told you once... i've told you a million times... don't exaggerate!

My dad said i was a dreamer.... i'll show him when i'm king!

Orangemon1
October 19th, 2000, 01:45 PM
I have always been a norton fan. It always loads on startup but if I'm doing any gaming or anything that requires a little extra power I disable it. The only relatively bad virus i have gotten would be CIH. It's a hard virus to complete get rid. Seems like it's stuck on everything. I had about 800 occurances on my drive. Other thna that I have never gotten anything major. A few pains in the *** but nothing more.

QSECOFR
October 19th, 2000, 02:07 PM
I think that you should give InoculateIT PE a chance. It is a very light AV program with realtime protection, and an option to auto-update every X days. It is good for those slow machines. It also allows you to progressively scan your hard drive every time you boot.
Originally posted by JeffyCool:
I run CA's InoculateIT PE. It's FREE!!! Uses very little resources. They update EVERYDAY!
www.CA.com (http://www.CA.com)

I've never really had any problems with viruses myself, but friends of mine that use disks in University computer have. I think automatic A: drive protection is essential.

gtiseb
October 20th, 2000, 08:19 AM
The other day, my uncle asked me to check his home network because it was acting funny. seems he couldn't get the other computers around the house to connect to the main computer (using winproxy). now he's got 5 pc's (for each kid and wife) and couple of laptops and all of them wouldn't work stably on the net and none have an AV program on them. So i take the main pc home and check it out. Plop th HD into a spare pc i have running Norton. When the scan wa done, it showed he had over 389 instances of about 6 different viruses, including network.vbs, the love bug and ethan.a. needless to say we a 3 weeks later and every pc in that house has norton running on it and the whole family are now experts on how to update. MY uncle did not like spending the money to buy the AV and paying me (had to charge him since a simple "looksee" turned into a major network rebuild) so now everyone checks their AV definitions.

wgbjr
October 20th, 2000, 06:22 PM
What upsets me is when a friend sends you a virus because they have no virus scanner, you notify them of this, and they become defensive.

Me: "You sent me the X virus"
Them: "What??? You must be crazy, I have never had a virus!!"
Me: "Really, what AV do you use?"
Them: "Ummmm none right now, but I did have X for a while."
Me: "Download a trial version and scan your system."
Them 2 hours later: "Help! I have 5 viruses!"
Me: "I'm sorry" http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif