Pot in the PC

[pcejim@dol.net]

A customer brought in a PC for repair. When I removed the front panel to open it up, a bag of pot was there. It was her son's PC, and he didn't know she was bringing it in before hand. We of course reported it to ther police.

[Major Kong]

Oh Man! That's one of them new Head Processors. Instead of running at 1 Gig it runs at 1 Kilo! I bet the zig zags were in the CDROM! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[[NeoZeeD]]

hmmm pot brings back memories
i vowed to never again smoke pot, that was two months ago. i was really drunk when i used it. otherwise i wouldnt have smoked it
im clean dude <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

[Auric]

ouch poor kid.. wtf kind of moron hides pot in yer pc anyway?

[kingtbone]

Originally posted by Auric:
<STRONG>ouch poor kid.. wtf kind of moron hides pot in yer pc anyway?</STRONG>

Hmmmm, I don't know, it's not that bad of a spot. You'd think he could have tucked it away somewhere in there, maybe in between ROM drives.
You'd just have to watch out for extreme overheating <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[IronTech]

I can see it now, the pot catches on fire, the whole house gets the munchies.

"Dude, check out the smoke coming from the computer....."

[crackbeer]

Why was the PC brought in for service?

Was this the error message they were getting?:

LIKE, WHOA MAN. THIS APPLICATION LIKE DID A FATAL EXCEPTION...WHOA FATAL, LIKE DEATH. THINK ABOUT IT, MAN. DEATH. UH, AT MEMORY ADDRESS 4:20.........

[Chosen One]

Originally posted by crackbeer:
<STRONG>Why was the PC brought in for service?

Was this the error message they were getting?:

LIKE, WHOA MAN. THIS APPLICATION LIKE DID A FATAL EXCEPTION...WHOA FATAL, LIKE DEATH. THINK ABOUT IT, MAN. DEATH. UH, AT MEMORY ADDRESS 4:20.........</STRONG>

LMAO

Ironic enough, when I was in High School, my baseball card boxes worked for me. Don't touch the crap anymore. Been 6, or maybe 7 years. Plan to keep that going too. But is was fun at the time. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ephmynus]

Originally posted by kingtbone:
<STRONG>

Hmmmm, I don't know, it's not that bad of a spot. You'd think he could have tucked it away somewhere in there, maybe in between ROM drives.
You'd just have to watch out for extreme overheating <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Yea, but if you ever remember hiding things as a kid or teen you remember that the first few times were in the most elaborate spots where no one in their right mind would have seen it even if they were looking directly at it. A few times of having to go so far out of your way to shove it all the way back in that special spot and you got lazy and started making it easier on yourself. This kid probably use to fit it between the motherboard side panel and the far edge of the PS. Who knows. I'm guessing he just got lazy and just started throwing it in there. Sucks to be him. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

[cc_penguin]

hehe, just thinking about the "stoned virus" that was out a few years ago, maybe thats were the concept came from.

[Daemon]

ahhahaha

Ok this has to be the funniest post Ive seen yet.

Damn you guys are funny.

Cant stop lauphing....woooo.. Breath. ahhahahhahahhahahahahahhha

[grosas9]

Originally posted by James Kitts:
<STRONG>We of course reported it to ther police.</STRONG>
Dude, that wasn't cool. Im sure you did your fair share of illeagal activities when you were a kid. Its just pot, it aint a murder weapon, its not plans to bomb a building...its freakin pot. the worst you should have done was tell his mom, not the freakin police.
Lets not forget to mention, pot heads are generally non-violent, the kid wouldnt ever hurt you.

As for my hiding spot...my change pocket
Lunch Break is gonna be fun

[CinderElmo]

I never really got into the Pot head scene, but hiding stuff reminds me of my freshman year of HS I used to play those bookcase wargames (Avalon Hill, SPI, etc.)...anyway I brought them to school to "trade" with the other geeks. We actually did play the games...but they were convenient ways to move around great numbers of Playboys too! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> No teacher would ever think to look inside a geeky game for contraband!

[IronTech]

Originally posted by 86Camaro350:
<STRONG>
Dude, that wasn't cool. Im sure you did your fair share of illeagal activities when you were a kid. Its just pot, it aint a murder weapon, its not plans to bomb a building...its freakin pot. the worst you should have done was tell his mom, not the freakin police.
Lets not forget to mention, pot heads are generally non-violent, the kid wouldnt ever hurt you.

As for my hiding spot...my change pocket
Lunch Break is gonna be fun</STRONG>


Nah, the worst thing you could have done is smoked it yourself

[Daemon]

<IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> woooooowooooooo

hey is that a pink banana
<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

[Eclipse2G]

That reminds me of an incident I had myself. I used to do car stereo installs and one day this guy brought in an excursion for us to work on. We pulled apart the dash and found a blunt and a couple of little baggies. We kept it and had a good time at the shop that night!

[ilovetheusers]

[quote]Originally posted by 86Camaro350:
<strong>
Dude, that wasn't cool. Im sure you did your fair share of illeagal activities when you were a kid. Its just pot, it aint a murder weapon, its not plans to bomb a building...its freakin pot. the worst you should have done was tell his mom, not the freakin police.
Lets not forget to mention, pot heads are generally non-violent, the kid wouldnt ever hurt you.

As for my hiding spot...my change pocket
Lunch Break is gonna be fun</strong><hr></blockquote>


Ditto.

You could have just thrown it away. What's the kid or mom gonna do? Sue you cause their pot was missing when you returned the case? Either that or you could have just told the mother, who may have given you flack and you could have then called the police.

Poor kids gonna get it now. He'll probably get tons of fines or just get swamped with lawyer and court costs for thousands of $. His poor mother and father will wind up paying the bills or he will be working them off for the next 5 to 10 years. He may even see some juvie time if he's unlucky. He'll probably never be able to get into college now and his life may just go completely to pot, no pun intended.

[Geek #1]

[quote]Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
<strong>


Ditto.

You could have just thrown it away. What's the kid or mom gonna do? Sue you cause their pot was missing when you returned the case? Either that or you could have just told the mother, who may have given you flack and you could have then called the police.

Poor kids gonna get it now. He'll probably get tons of fines or just get swamped with lawyer and court costs for thousands of $. His poor mother and father will wind up paying the bills or he will be working them off for the next 5 to 10 years. He may even see some juvie time if he's unlucky. He'll probably never be able to get into college now and his life may just go completely to pot, no pun intended.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The thing is, if anyone else found it (eg, your boss), then you are liable for not reporting it. Which transfers the blame to the firm, and soon the press and police are interviewing everyone because the whole shop might be part of it.

At the end of the day, if you are doing illegal activites, (which we are all involved in, one way or another), then you don't really have a leg to stand on.

[Budd]

[quote]Originally posted by 86Camaro350:
<strong>
Dude, that wasn't cool. Im sure you did your fair share of illeagal activities when you were a kid. Its just pot, it aint a murder weapon, its not plans to bomb a building...its freakin pot. the worst you should have done was tell his mom, not the freakin police.
Lets not forget to mention, pot heads are generally non-violent, the kid wouldnt ever hurt you.

As for my hiding spot...my change pocket
Lunch Break is gonna be fun</strong><hr></blockquote>

it may not have been cool, but it could have been his a** if it was discovered later and it was found that he didn't do anything to report it. besides, it may not have been his call to tell the police. he's gotta do what the boss says. leave him alone

[CinderElmo]

If it was at the kids house and I was opening a case and came across a bag of weed I wouldn't turn them in. I might even suggest a better hiding place for the guy/gal.

However, at a place of business you have to think about your liability first, and then the kids' feelings. Who knows...the kid might still be trying to blame that company, say it was a set up, etc. If he was smart he would tell the lawyer his mom put it in there and he is just the fall guy! :cool:

[Eagle PC Diagnostech]

IT'S PRETTY FUNNY I FOUND THIS POST

I just picked up a computer from one of my customers yesterday, and found 2 (TWO) bags of pot inside the case. Her kids are ages 6 and under, and she is a single Mom.

This must be the new millinnium hiding place.

[ilovetheusers]

[quote]Originally posted by Geek #1:
<strong>

The thing is, if anyone else found it (eg, your boss), then you are liable for not reporting it. Which transfers the blame to the firm, and soon the press and police are interviewing everyone because the whole shop might be part of it.

At the end of the day, if you are doing illegal activites, (which we are all involved in, one way or another), then you don't really have a leg to stand on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I know, and I was going to include this in my original post. If it is a large shop I can understand why rules have to be followed owing to the overwhelming climate of "Sue, sue, sue! Gimmie something I didn't work for!" and the fact that this could even be some sort of entrapment style scheme (though I highly doubt it). Still, if nobody was looking he could have just thrown it away. The way he noted calling the police is like he never contemplated an alternative and that is what I'm stating when his actions were not along the lines of what I would have done.

[jj nobody]

[quote]Originally posted by James Kitts:
<strong>A customer brought in a PC for repair. When I removed the front panel to open it up, a bag of pot was there. It was her son's PC, and he didn't know she was bringing it in before hand. We of course reported it to ther police.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Why'd ya report it? Should've smoked it! Would've made an interesting work day

[pga]

Where do you want to go today?

I'm going to... Strawberry Fields

[grosas9]

[quote]Originally posted by Geek #1:
<strong>

The thing is, if anyone else found it (eg, your boss), then you are liable for not reporting it. Which transfers the blame to the firm, and soon the press and police are interviewing everyone because the whole shop might be part of it.

At the end of the day, if you are doing illegal activites, (which we are all involved in, one way or another), then you don't really have a leg to stand on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Possession is a violation not a crime. No one would get in trouble, nor would anyone care. when the cops search me and find my stash, they say "Do me a favor, break off a small peice, drop it on the floor and drive away. And dont drive when you finish it." pot is a BS drug, no one cares anymore except for ultra conservative hard a$$es. hell, the president is a recovering coke addict.

[grosas9]

And a last thing is, what is so hard about palming, going to the bathroom and flushing it. YOU RUINED THIS KIDS LIFE BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO BE THE HERO ON SOME STUPID DRUG THAT NOT EVEN THE POLICE CARE ABOUT ANYMORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS IN QUANTETIES IN LESS THEN 1LB. CONGRATULATIONS, WHY DONT YOU GO FIND SOME REAL CRIMINALS, LIKE A MURDERER OR SOMETHING.

[mikehoats]

While i certainly don't approve of pot (snicker,snicker)i would rather have my kid smoke that then get loaded on beer.

[[NeoZeeD]]

well its nice to know im not the only one that got high before. ;)

i say you should have took his stash and sold it or smoked it, if there was no supervisor or nobody seen it but you. :p

im not sure about you guys, but i have done some illegal crap, not that big just theft when i was an assistant manager for wards, never got caught and got alot of electronics and entertainment centers and computer desks at a price that was convient for me. but that was in the past i grew out of it...that was last year lol
if i would have been caught i would have been sh*tting bricks, also when i would get high with pot i was never caught using it. i think you should have cut the kid some slack

if the kid starts to smoke it alot and then goes into crime its really his parents fault for being crappy. calling the police wont make too much of a difference unless the parents enforce something on him to make him stop.


just to let you know i dont do anymore bad things anymore. im a good person in society now :)
and im going to college so there, good parenting leads to good people, sometimes......

[ilovetheusers]

[quote]Originally posted by 86Camaro350:
<strong>

Possession is a violation not a crime. No one would get in trouble, nor would anyone care. when the cops search me and find my stash, they say "Do me a favor, break off a small peice, drop it on the floor and drive away. And dont drive when you finish it." pot is a BS drug, no one cares anymore except for ultra conservative hard a$$es. hell, the president is a recovering coke addict.</strong><hr></blockquote>


New Yack isn't so bad with it's pot laws, but if you live in the wrong state or have enough you are in pretty deep poopie!

Here is a list of state penalties for pot posession/dealing, etc.

<a href="http://www.norml.org/legal/state_laws.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.norml.org/legal/state_laws.shtml</a>

In this kids case it looks like a $1000 fine and up to a year in jail. Luckily he's a minor, so it shouldn't be as harsh.

[Geek #1]

Being English, I'm looking at this from a different prospective than our friends in America. And I agree in part with some of the argument.

I've always said that what you do in your own home is up to you, be it illegal or not. You can do drugs, have a sex orgy or perform ritual Satanism, but hey man just keep the noise down, some of us have to work tomorrow.

NOW, once you take that outside into a business environment, the business is liable. What if Mr Kitts, just left it alone and the Manager of the store saw it. Or if the PC was returned to the owner, they were raided next day by the Police. "Hey, Mister Copper, that ain't mine. I just got the PC back from this store". Suddenly the Police are on your a$$ , and it's your word against theirs. The Police are asking YOU, "why didnt' you report it, are these people friends of yours...."

Next thing you know, you have been fired from work and appearing in court charged with drug dealing offenses.

I've smoked some myself, and fell I am quite liberal not a Hardnosed, ban all drugs person, but you need to look at the bigger picture. And to be honest, I would have reported it too.

[cyberhh]

Why is it that when someone brings up a customer who wants you to install illegal software on his/her PC everyone has a fit and gets on the moral high ground - man that's piracy - you could go to jail, etc, etc... and that's ok - but when it is an illegal substance suddenly it's - harsh man.... - illegal activities should never enter a place of business - even if it is accedental.


The question is not a moral debate about pot use - but a ethical debate of what an EMPLOYEE should do in ANY GIVEN SITUATION when on the clock - I for one have to stand beside you James - you did nothing wrong. The kid should have found a better hiding place - if it was at home - no prob - put it somewhere else and away you go - at MY PLACE OF BUSINESS - screw you - now that contraband is beginning to interfere with my livelyhood.

[PzKfw VI]

I'm also from the UK, you guys seem to be pretty strict on Pot use. I don't do pot anymore, but I have in the past, I wasn't a pot head, it didn't rule my life and I managed to go through Collage and hold a good job while smoking pot. Would you have done the same thing if you found a can of beer in his PC (assuming he's under age)?

EVERY techie I have ever met has copied software for personal use, should I report them to microsoft?

I agree you had to cover your back, in todays blame culture, but I'm sure a better solution could have been found.

[Gimbleman]

I'm appalled at this, Some poor dude loses his stash due to his mom and then some self rightous tech calls the police, I am an advocate of god's green herb and see no fault in a casual user, first mom should have kept her hands off the pc second the tech should have kept his ideals to himself, be a tech not a self appointed vigilante, let the parent deal with the child, grrrr, if i go on I'll get banned from this site....in closing I say get a life coptech and deal with your own shortfalls.....

[Geek #1]

[quote]Originally posted by KingTiger:
<strong>.....Would you have done the same thing if you found a can of beer in his PC (assuming he's under age)?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think some people are still missing the point here. It is not illegal for children to drink alcohol, only to purchase it. It IS illegal to buy/own/use Pot. I know these days, Cannabis is not much different to beer, however it's still a banned substance, the same as Cocaine, Heroin and any other drugs.

Like I stated in my last post, the drugs being hidden within the PC might not even belong to the child, but it was found in a Business environment, therefore different rule apply as more people are potentially involved.

Jobs are hard to come by these days, any job (in Britain anyhow), it's not going to look good to a potential future employer that you were fired for keeping illegal drugs at your workplace. The guy was only protecting his job, give him a break.

[Garak]

Im with james on this one, i think he did wot wos best for him, there wos this one time i found p0rn on one guys pc, whilst working for the local authourity, i lost my job because i didnt report it... sometimes u have to do wot is best for u and say tuff titty to everyone else..

:(

[Gimbleman]

Things work a bit different in the states im sure, Pot is a natural substance, be it legal or not, several states are now defying the Govt' (finally thank god) and allowing medicinal use and growth, the Hemp movement is taking off as a alternative for tobbacco farmers, this incident is unforgivable at best the tech should have just trashed the bag, ruining someone elses life to enforce ones own ideals SUCKS!!!!! I would gladly bludgeon the worm should he show himself in my world, I truly hope that the tech in question suffers the tortures of the damned for his actions...you UK guys need to relax and get high...everyone has vices let he who is without sin cast the first stone, let the others roll their own...

[dvingar]

Everyone seems to be coming down on James and doing so without all the facts. He shouldn't be personally attacked for "ruining" this kids life without knowing if he made the call to notify the police. All he said was "we of course reported it to the police" If James just happens to work at this shop then there is a good possibility that he alerted his boss/owner to the pot and he/she made the decision to call the police.

You all know, as well as I do, that this world is not ran on good intentions and second chances. Everyone has responsibilities and everyone must take care of themselves and their family.
No one should be faulted for looking out for their family. Not bringing this to the attention of his boss or the police would have been endangering his job and risking the welfare of his family. Who among you that have children would like to explain to your kids that they don't have anything to eat for dinner because you wanted to be cool. I really doubt James has ever gotten a raise because he was a "cool dude".

Without sounding too corny, this is a forum for techs and we should be a little more supportive of a fellow tech. We're not here to bash each other. We're here to bash the users that dream up a new way of making our lives difficult each and every day. At the very least he should have been asked for more information before the games began.

[Stanley_Kubrick]

Dvingar has a nice point there, but my overall opinion of this situation (if i may be permitted to voice it here)is that turning a young kid in to the cops for weed ownership is morally disgusting.
Agreed that possibly telling mom would be acceptable; if the tech really felt this moral/religious need to do something, but like anything else we come across in this field (junior's asian goat sex jpegs on mom's computer)it should fall within the yech-client confidentiality zone. Don't ask/don't tell. (the ONE and only exception would be child pornography)
As for the pot, the only moral thing to do would be to put it back in the machine after completing the repair. (Maybe taking just a pinch for yourself if was good stuff- BENCH FEE!)

Respect the clients privacy!

[Garak]

[quote]Originally posted by dvingar:
<strong>Everyone seems to be coming down on James and doing so without all the facts. He shouldn't be personally attacked for "ruining" this kids life without knowing if he made the call to notify the police. All he said was "we of course reported it to the police" If James just happens to work at this shop then there is a good possibility that he alerted his boss/owner to the pot and he/she made the decision to call the police.

You all know, as well as I do, that this world is not ran on good intentions and second chances. Everyone has responsibilities and everyone must take care of themselves and their family.
No one should be faulted for looking out for their family. Not bringing this to the attention of his boss or the police would have been endangering his job and risking the welfare of his family. Who among you that have children would like to explain to your kids that they don't have anything to eat for dinner because you wanted to be cool. I really doubt James has ever gotten a raise because he was a "cool dude".

Without sounding too corny, this is a forum for techs and we should be a little more supportive of a fellow tech. We're not here to bash each other. We're here to bash the users that dream up a new way of making our lives difficult each and every day. At the very least he should have been asked for more information before the games began.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i agree with this, this thing has been blown way out of proportion, im just wondering wot u guys would be saying if james had found cocaine or some hard based drug in the machine, well thats all i got to say on it.

[Joker1]

[quote]Originally posted by dvingar:
<strong>Everyone seems to be coming down on James and doing so without all the facts. He shouldn't be personally attacked for "ruining" this kids life without knowing if he made the call to notify the police. All he said was "we of course reported it to the police" If James just happens to work at this shop then there is a good possibility that he alerted his boss/owner to the pot and he/she made the decision to call the police.

You all know, as well as I do, that this world is not ran on good intentions and second chances. Everyone has responsibilities and everyone must take care of themselves and their family.
No one should be faulted for looking out for their family. Not bringing this to the attention of his boss or the police would have been endangering his job and risking the welfare of his family. Who among you that have children would like to explain to your kids that they don't have anything to eat for dinner because you wanted to be cool. I really doubt James has ever gotten a raise because he was a "cool dude".

Without sounding too corny, this is a forum for techs and we should be a little more supportive of a fellow tech. We're not here to bash each other. We're here to bash the users that dream up a new way of making our lives difficult each and every day. At the very least he should have been asked for more information before the games began.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Right on!

Well put man!

[Knucklehead]

Very simple. We once had a traveler make a call on a pay phone and he left a VERY expensive 35MM camera sitting on the counter. When we looked in the case, there was a bag of pot in with the camera. He returned months later (brain cells must have regenerated) looking for the camera and we told him we had to turn it into the authorities because of what we found (we had flushed it). At that point, he was going to turn himself in and get arrested and was totally beside himself. When we handed him the camera (sans pot), we all burst out laughing and I'm sure he learned a lesson. This was 25 years ago!

[ilovetheusers]

[quote]Originally posted by dvingar:
<strong>Everyone seems to be coming down on James and doing so without all the facts. He shouldn't be personally attacked for "ruining" this kids life without knowing if he made the call to notify the police. All he said was "we of course reported it to the police" If James just happens to work at this shop then there is a good possibility that he alerted his boss/owner to the pot and he/she made the decision to call the police.

You all know, as well as I do, that this world is not ran on good intentions and second chances. Everyone has responsibilities and everyone must take care of themselves and their family.
No one should be faulted for looking out for their family. Not bringing this to the attention of his boss or the police would have been endangering his job and risking the welfare of his family. Who among you that have children would like to explain to your kids that they don't have anything to eat for dinner because you wanted to be cool. I really doubt James has ever gotten a raise because he was a "cool dude".

Without sounding too corny, this is a forum for techs and we should be a little more supportive of a fellow tech. We're not here to bash each other. We're here to bash the users that dream up a new way of making our lives difficult each and every day. At the very least he should have been asked for more information before the games began.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, we are in tech tales and this is the place for personal opinions. I don’t feel that I have personally bashed this person but I can see from some of the other posts where you could see this. Perhaps some of us have been a little over enthusiastic. It is the nature of a thread to mutate and take on a life of it’s own though and this sort of thing is typical. Drug laws are quite a controversial issue and given a historical perspective I personally feel that in 50 to 100 years people will look back at us and wonder what we were thinking just as we do today when we look back at prohibition and all of the lawlessness/death and destruction it caused. As for whether I would change my mind if this was a different drug, I might or might not given the situation. Most other drug users I would assume to not be forgetful enough to hide a stash somewhere easily found. Weed heads seem to have this odd habit of being forgetful and rather slow of wit at times.

As for looking out for A#1 all the time - I'm quite sure that the Germans felt the same way while others were lead into cattle cars. Of course my comparison of turning a kid in to the police is a far cry from the relocation and subsequent immolation of an entire group of people is rather extreme. It does, however, cry the point that we are responsible for the actions in our community and that we need to make decisions based upon what we believe in. Personally I would not have done the same and would have found a way around it if possible, but if I was under surveillance then I might have done the same thing. I’m not saying the guy should have grabbed the pot, started smoking it and shouted “F the man!” but he could have used a little discretion in this situation.

[sennister]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time....

I would have turned him in.

[MVanDyken]

I would not have turned him in, since I think the laws regarding marijuana possesion are archiac Republican law-n-order bull****, and I won't participate in the THAT farce. But I don't blame the tech that he did not want to take that risk, and for chosing the turn him in. Maybe next time he won't.

Better we teach people to store weed in the freezer, where it keeps well for years.

[Stalemate]

[quote]Originally posted by 86Camaro350:
<strong>

Possession is a violation not a crime. No one would get in trouble, nor would anyone care. when the cops search me and find my stash, they say "Do me a favor, break off a small peice, drop it on the floor and drive away. And dont drive when you finish it." pot is a BS drug, no one cares anymore except for ultra conservative hard a$$es. hell, the president is a recovering coke addict.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And that makes it right because.... ?!

Social acceptance doesn't make a thing legal. The fact that others are doing it doesn't improve your health (or mental capacity) if you imitate them.

The fact that political leaders have used drugs does not make them models. Do you agree with all his present policies? As Tuvok would say, "Your logic is flawed".

I'm not sure what the laws are in regards to this in the States, but if I come into knowledge of a crime, and I choose not to report it, I become an accomplice. All without inhaling. :rolleyes:

NB Please don't take offense at my response, 86Camaro350. It's not personal, even if I quoted you. I'm just arguing the reasoning behind it.

[cookin chef]

There is too much controversy over hemp or pot.
Here in Canada, they are finally passing laws for the federal government to legally grow and distribute pot to those with severe medical problems like cancer, mls, and many others. Those people with those conditions smoke pot to control the pain they are in.
It will still be illegal to smoke it for other reasons not medically related.

Regarding whether that tech did the right thing or not, it's none of our business to be so judgemental. He did what he had to do at that time. NUFF SAID!!!!

[titch]

The poor customer. If I found myself in a similar situation I would have replaced it where it was originally stashed with a note nicely explaining that a better hiding place should be arranged. Do you phone in about every driver you see speeding, jumping a light, parked illegally, etc?

[NooNoo]

Interesting, a fair spread of opinions over the pot issue - but does anyone remember that Gary Glitter was done for child porno because of what a tech found on his hard drive?

Would your attitudes change then?

[DANIMAL]

Admit it 90% of people have tried it at one time or another.
I think if you do it in the privacy of your own home "Once in a while" after hours when there is no one around to make stumble or hurt for relaxation or unwinding it's ok.

But if your doing everyday or during the Day or just at parties to fit in or not then you are a loser and are living a second life, and this kind of person is a LIAR not only to others but especially to them selves, ie: phony, exageratted stories, etc.......

I have abused drugs "before" (as in more than 2 grams a Day) and know that you become a full blown liar in almost every situation, and paranoid and many other things. I fyou say you can smoke all day long and not feel Paranoid then you know that you are living two lives.

I had been Clean of drugs for a long time and have a mother in law and friend that both smofe all day long during work and not. they are living a second life and cannot admit it.
these two people were my alltime best friends while I was an addict and now that I am clean I see that they are truly not my friends because of the`re phony lives.

I'd better stop this......
To some it up drugs are ok if you use it in moderation and you have absolutly no addiction to it. as in quitting for long periods of time.and if they do not effect your life or your train of thought.

[ClickHere2Surf.com]

Why didn't the starter of this thread ever reply? Is he gone?

Anyway I would've just left it there, and if he got caught he could've just said he didn't see it because it was hiden behind the CDROM or something

[Outcoded]

Dope, nice place for a holiday, but wouldn't want to live there :)

[Bluff]

lol
i remeber once, when I was a girl, it was our sorta prom night, and....er. I forget. what are you young whippersnappers doing here? you should be out doing something useful...
mumble grumble

[Budster64]

Well, I would have never turned it into the cops. I may have told the mother though.
Once when I was still going to college I was working for UPS during the Xmas holidays in FLa. I delivered a package to an older lady, and as I handed her the package I noticed that she had a planter by the window...with pot in it.
Now, I had met this woman a few times and I knew her well enough that I had to ask if she knew what was growing in there. She just said it was some plant her son was growing but didn't know what it was. Since she could get in big trouble if the condo comandoes found out what she had...I told her what it was. she was very surprised and I'm sure had a heck of a talk with her son that night. Point is, should I have reported her. possibly get her in trouble even though it wasn't hers? No...I don't think so.
And just so you know that even the DEA can have a heart, here's another story....
I went home for vacation from the Coast Guard, my brother who was fifteen had a pot plant growing on the roof. It was kind of small, but after several days of rain it grew pretty darn big, big enough for a chopper to spot it and the narcs watched the place for a week before knocking on the door while my mom was at work. Nope not busting down the door, knocked on it. Asked me who I was and did I know what was on the roof, of course I told him and said I didn't know. So he told me and also said that they had been watching the house for a week and had seen my mom and doubted that it was her's and with a 15 year old in the house he figured out who's it was. All he asked me to do what help him put it in the trunk, told me to have a talk with my brother and left it at that. He was being fair, he knew the parents didn't know and that it was a minor...he also knew, at the time, it would have cost my mom her house...all because of a small plant.
So you see, sometimes it pays to be humane...telling the mother would have been more humane.

[Outcoded]

Just a thought for you, did this DEA guy show any ID?

"Whoa dude [munches chocolate]! I'm, like from the DEA thing. I was just, like, flying past, and saw you had a narly keffter tree on top of your digs. Could you [munches chocolate] just, like help me put it in the trunk?" :D

[Ketchup]

I wouldn't have called the cops on him - I definitely would've kept the stash though.

[NotaGeek]

You people taking the High road/Low Oxygen option remember this: Illegal does not mean Bad.
Smart people overlook this fact, OFTEN.
Makes me wonder about some of you.
The Mom didn`t come in and say "fix my son, he smokes pot." Fix the PC, Leave EVERYTHING else alone.
As Posted By NooNoo: - but does anyone remember that Gary Glitter was done for child porno because of what a tech found on his hard drive?
Would your attitudes change then?

Yes, absolutely. That`s different.*&#%(*#&% YES!

Besides, that Fine Money could have been spent on PC repairs. Now you`ve lost a customer.(and all the other Stoner/Geeks she knows. Mind you, there are LOTS of StonerGeeks out there.

Discretion is part of Civilization.

[sgundrum]

The truth is that no matter which way this went, it could end up being a lose - lose situation.

1) The company does nothing about it and leaves it in the computer. Mom or dad finds it in the computer, son says it was in there when it came back from the shop. Mom or dad get pissed and file suit against shop.

2) Call mom or dad and have them come into the shop. Show them what you found and the very first thing that is said "MY son/daughter WOULD never do anything like that!" Next thing you know, rumors are flying about the shop planting drugs in the computers.

Depending on the amount of pot found, the charges could have been anything from a possession violation to possession with intent to distribute (if I remember correctly the last one is a felony).

So, from one little post, one cannot say if the right thing was done. For all we know, the tech told his boss who in turn told his boss. So it could have been the owner of the shop that called the cops.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[Budster64]

[quote]Originally posted by Outcoded:
<strong>Just a thought for you, did this DEA guy show any ID?

"Whoa dude [munches chocolate]! I'm, like from the DEA thing. I was just, like, flying past, and saw you had a narly keffter tree on top of your digs. Could you [munches chocolate] just, like help me put it in the trunk?" :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

LMAO yes I did see a badge and since I was in the Coast Guard and dealt with them on a constant basis I knew what one of those looked like.
LOL that was funny though dude.

[AlienDyne]

LOL!!! :D :D :D

[Kenny P.]

Hmmm...

I guess my reply would be that if the tech that found the pot should have pointed it out to his immediate supervisor and let them handle it.

If you owned the business or were the repair manager, then it would be your decision on how to proceed.

I think I would have flushed it and been done with it. Let the Mom and the son argue out who did what to whom...

Kenny P.

[marko731]

I'm sorry man and I definately don't want to come off as "bashing" anyone but has anybody given consideration to the idea that the pc may have been purchased used and the dope was in there from a previous owner. I mean just because it belonged to a kid or was in a kids room does not necessarily mean the pot belonged to him or her. From my experience, most people don't open their computers for any reason. Was the pot the reason the machine didn't function or was it something else. My bet is it was something else. You may have gotten someone into serious trouble for no reason at all. I would have just informed the mother if anyone, or just flushed it.
Later...

[ephmynus]

Well never thought this post would have stayed alive this long but I figure I'll put in my $0.02 instead of just a wise crack. For background information, I do live in the states and I do like to partake in the Cannabis cocktail from time to time. I, however, believe I would have turned him in as well. I remember a post not too long ago about kiddy pr0n. Everybody was wanting to turn those people in because it was "sick." Not to say I'm an avid fan of kiddy porn because I, too, believe it to be very gross and would turn those people over in a heartbeat it's just a different substance that is illegal. I do not believe this drug should be illegal. Unfortunately, what I believe is not always reality. I know plenty of cops that don't think it should be illegal but do you think they just let everyone off the hook? No, of course they don't. They have been hired by a city, county or state to enforce laws and to stick by the rules. Else why even have a judicial system. I don't mean to be up on a soap box but our tech did what any person needing to support others would or should do. Whether or not it was his decision is besides the point. What needs to be remembered is that if he hadn't done anything, that could have very easily come back to bite him in the *** when, afterwards, he would have to walk away from a well paying (I assume) job with his tail between his legs over a little substance. I wouldn't want to get the kid in trouble either. Some say the kid shouldn't get in trouble over a little weed. Well it goes both ways. If this post was the other way around and we had read it stating that our tech friend was fired because he didn't turn him in, many of us, not to intentionally harm him, would be saying that we would have turned him in just because of the reality of the situation. It would be a lot different if he had actually been fired so that we would have seen the severity in his actions. Long post I know and I'll shut up now. Just be it that I would have taken the upperhand so as to continue to feed my family and myself.

[buccaneerjedi]

i too have bene surprised on the staying power of this subject. i have not responded but have been interested. in my opinion anything having to do with hemp should be legalized. unfortunately it is not. if it was a house call then i would have ignored it, but the important thing is that the stuff was brought into a place of business. as a business owner i would have been mad because now you are asking me to cover up. nope not going to happen. someone ask do you turn in speeders and the like. well if they are doing 75 thru my shop h&!! yea i will.

[jbar1]

I guess you do what you gotta do. Over the years I have found everythin from guns to dead rodents. Ihave returned all but the dead vermin. Simply cause I prefer not to take the moral high ground. But that is my choice and it surprizes a lot of people who know me as I was a deputy sheriff for a few years. It seems Compaqs were used for hiding stuff more than others because of the large knurled case screws. I have found money,condums,naked photos,watches,diaries, notebooks,Stocks, car keys, booze and one case had adozen m80s. We kept the M80s as they are extremely dangerous. Dont know wheter you did right or wrong, just guess you did what you felt was right. Nothing wrong with that. :cool: :cool:

[3faze]

Sorry, got to ask, what's an M80?

England and America, two countries divided by a common language.

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[godofuq]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by 3faze:
Sorry, got to ask, what's an M80?

England and America, two countries divided by a common language.

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It's a relatively large firecracker. Before common government restrictions, M80's were similar to "Cherry Bombs" and were usually equivalent to about an 1/8 stick of dynamite. New laws now prohibit this and they are similar to firecrackers commonly known as H1000's. They don't have much force behind them, just more than a normal firecracker does.

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[kingtbone]

In all honesty, I probably would have taken the dope out of the machine and kept it. In this way, when the machine was returned and fixed, the kid would have probably gotten quite a scare, thinking he'd been busted, and you would score some free drugs. I'm sure someone has mentioned, if all the people who have ever done drugs were in jail right now, the free world would be a lonely place. I think this issue boils down to "people who hate drugs" vs. everyone else. It's a personal choice that one person has to make for themselves.

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[clascomp]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by NooNoo:
Interesting, a fair spread of opinions over the pot issue - but does anyone remember that Gary Glitter was done for child porno because of what a tech found on his hard drive?

Would your attitudes change then?</font>

There is never forgiveness for child porn, it has always been turned in at our shop, and always will be.

As to the "pot in the puter" we probably wouldn't have turned it in to the police. Though it is a crime, I don't think it is worth making a families life miserable over.

I'm still not sure if I would tell his mom, or just throw it away, or maybe even split it up with friends. But there are way worse things than a bag of pot in a computer, such as child porn!

As for the person who made the original post. Without knowing all the circumstances, I don't think any of us can pass judgement. It was his choise. We don't know his company policies or any of the circumstances. Give him a break.

[Johnny Blaze]

Of course I woulda Shmoked it!!!

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[TrackMan]

I have done not so legal stuff on my computer, no pot or porn, lets just say it had something to do with making kids in my school older so they could buy booze. (I was damn good @ it too!) Then I got smart and stopped it. Still, I would have turned in the kid. this isn't about peopel who hate pot vs. everybody else. It's about keeping your own a$$ out of trouble. If i was servicing my computer, and it wasn't mine, then I would turn me in. If you know what I mean.

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