MCSE blues........

[Kuro]

Hello,


I am 20 years old and I am interested in Studying for my MCSE; and I really don’t know where to start. I have a fair amount of software knowledge, but I have never made a network due to never having the opportunity or the money to do so. I have looked around the Internet, and in newspapers and companies are offering very expense quick fix courses, which I don’t really want to do, so I am looking at teaching myself.... What I really want to know is what do I need to learn in order to make my self qualified and I don’t mean 'just qualified' I want to be able to get a position and be good at it. What I want is good manuals to learn from so if you can suggest something I would be really grateful.

Many thanks

Jon

[Young Gun]

Jon,

Try looking in your local book store for books like "The idiots guide..." there are even books from microsoft covering the whole MCSE family. Looking around the business I deal with in work a good route to go down would be the windows 2000 road or even internet/e-mail hope this helps. I have started a MCSE in windows 98 through such books. The books are out there it's just a case of what you really want to do but remember in computers you need to be up to date to keep that job you are good at.

HOPE THIS HELPS http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm15.gif

[cyberhh]

Try the exam cram books. They have a small exam cram and corrosponding detailed book for each MCSE exam. Networking is a difficult field full of wonderful rewards, however you must love the field, or it will be a constant source of heartache. Please keep in mind that most of us that are succeeding in this field read between 500 and 1000+ pages per week. The learning curve is killer and we all love to network. If you enjoy it and embrace it fully you will suceed, if however you are getting into it because the money is good, there are plenty of unemployed paper mcse's.

I hope you have fun learning and that you descide that you love it, I welcome you to the world of networking (and lets be honest it pays better to know it, than not to.)

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[CannyDog]

Hi Jon,
Books and Intensive Courses aren't usually the best way to achieve the goals you seem to be striving for, IMHO. The ideal would be a situation were you are allowed to gain experience "hands on". The bad part is that is very difficult to get hired for a position without some certification.

The best suggestion I could make is to scrape together just enough to build yourself two computers. They don't have to be anything "fancy", or fast, or new even. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif As a matter of fact it would be good experience to do it with "old parts" for at least one. Because that will provide extra troubleshooting experience. There are many shops where you can get an OEM copy of Windows 2000 for a good price when you purchase a motherboard and/or hard disk. Install Win2k on one, or both, systems. Now you have the "lab" you'll need to study for that MCSE. And all you have to do is make yourself "study" everyday. Oh and now one of those fancy books might really help. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/wink.gif

Best Regards,
Peter

BTW, Best Buy will hire PC Techs who don't have certification. The experience isn't that great, but you can get an employee discount on parts. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif

[UsePost2000]

500-1000 pages?
wow.
i better start committing myself
im working on the new win2k mcse.
did my nt mcse in 7 weeks, ccna in 2, a+ in 1, this active directory stuff is amazing.
take as much time as you need to really learn it, and love it.

[n8dawg]

you need years of experance not saying that the cert is bad but get some exerance too

[Rejection Man]

if your just starting, go to Cosco, and get the whole 9 MOC book package. Great deal on the Official stuff, then get the dummies stude guied/crams to back up each exam. My self, I got the NT4 books for half price their, and used exam cram, and the dummies books to pass my core.

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