[RESOLVED] Yamaha CDRW 16X not buring at 16X

[Talonboy]

Hi guys the problem i am having is that i got a 16X yamaha CDRW 16X 10X 40X great deal .. but everytime i try and burn at 16X i get this underrun or underwrite error and it stops! what is this . i am buring from the HHD to not CD to CD !!! i am running a new AMD800 with new motherboard with 256 mem ..I head of these programs like burn safe or burn proof that can elimatate stuff like this do they work ? can anyone help http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm42.gif

[Talonboy]

wow that monkey is way big ... ever used that before hehe

[Darren Wilson]

Firstly BurnProof is not a program but a function built into the Hardware itself. if your Burner does not have BurnProof built into the Burner then you will not be able to utilise it or take advantage of software settings for it.

Buffer Underuns occur when the data buffer of the Burner empties and cannot be filled at a nstant enough speed. To alleviate the possibility of Buffer underuns happening (this will not get rid of them completely),
Defrag your Hard disk Turn off any screensavers & power management close all Systray programs except for Explorer & Systray Do not use the PC whilst the burner is writing the disc. Make sure that the Source & Destinatoin drives are on seperate IDE cables. lastly, if you don't wiah to write at a lower speed, purchase a BurnProof CDRW (the price on them is so low now that it would save you money is wasted cd's in no time if you are getting a lot of underuns).


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[Talonboy]

Make sure that the Source & Destinatoin drives are on seperate IDE cables.

what do u mean by that ??? you mean seprate the IDE (the gray cable with red line in the computer) ???? but i think that that one connects my CDROM and HHD if i;m not mistaken .. how can seprate them ??? i have a slot for the a drive ok now should i run a IDE cable from the CDROM and hardrive to primary and then run a seprate cable from the burner to the secondary slot ?

[Silverman]

Hard drive on primary IDE as master and CDR on secondary IDE as master. The hard drives much faster at transferring data and the CDR will only slow it down being on the same IDE cable. If you are running as master and slave on Primary IDE it could be causing the buffer underruns.

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[AlienDyne]

Which burning software are you using? Does it fully support the unit?

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[Talonboy]

i use adaptec easy cd creator 4.05

[3D Prophet II]

Talonboy,

Keep the hard drive on the primary IDE channel by itself. The speed of the cd-rom or the cd-rw will slow your hard drive down. Put the cd-rw and cd-rom on the secondary IDE port as master and slave, by doing that it will help speed the harddrive up. You will also want to make sure you have plenty of room on your hard drive for the disk caching that will be done while burning your CDs.

Good Luck

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[Talonboy]

i tried that still no good ... HELP !

what else can it be >?

[Silverman]

Chipset drivers installed for motherboard and O.S.? DMA enabled?

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[Talonboy]

thats another problem .. everytime i try and enable DMA on my cdrw my computer becomes unstable!!!!i have all updated drivers for motheboard and CDRW ... i just had a new motherboard put in a K7S5A it does support DMA and also running on a AMD800 256mem ... this is whats happens when i enable it .... i click enabe DMA then click yes to reboot my computer reboot it does its post thing but then just before where the windows logo is suppost to pop up it locks!!!

[Silverman]

There seems to be some issues with DTLA drives and this board. I don't know how this affects Yamaha CD/WR.
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[This message has been edited by Silverman (edited October 10, 2001).]

[agello28]

the plextor drives seem to run better to me on nero burning software.

[3D Prophet II]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Talonboy:
thats another problem .. everytime i try and enable DMA on my cdrw my computer becomes unstable!!!!i have all updated drivers for motheboard and CDRW ... i just had a new motherboard put in a K7S5A it does support DMA and also running on a AMD800 256mem ... this is whats happens when i enable it .... i click enabe DMA then click yes to reboot my computer reboot it does its post thing but then just before where the windows logo is suppost to pop up it locks!!!</font>

Make sure your CD-RW is on microsofts compatability list for your OS. As windows states, if the device that you are trying to enable DMA for isn't DMA compatable, there may be stability problems. And since your computer doesn't even want to boot after you enable DMA for that CD-RW you have, it just may not be compatable with your version of windows to run in DMA mode. If your cd-rw is on microsofts compatability list, make sure your motherboard is.

http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp

Good Luck, hope this helps you find out everything you need to know.

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[C0NF0RTY]

Ok i have same CD burner and i've use easy CD creator and for unknow reson i cound't burn any thing 'till i ask my friend.
he told me that whit CD creator on win2k you can't burn anything and use NERO!!!
since i use it it work fine by me u should try it
L - i - n - k (http://www.ahead.de/)

[Talonboy]

i just downloaded it and will try it thanks man

[Talonboy]

dude i tried that still same thing !!! Will i ever be able to burn at 16 X ?!??!?!?!?!
i;m buring from HHD to CD shouldnt that be the best way to do it ???? i have a 7 gig HHD
with over 4 gigs free

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[Darren Wilson]

What motherboard, which chipset on motherboard, which chipset & IDE drivers are installed?

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[Talonboy]

motherboard is K7S5A
chipset sis735

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[PJPilate]

A few things to try as well:

Look at these: http://www.roxio.com/en/jhtml/cdrdatabase/supportedrecorder.jhtml?id=3
"Yamaha CRW2100E - Due to changes in the later versions of the firmware for this drive it is likely to have compatability issues with our software. Roxio and Yamaha are investigating this. "

See if the recorder is on the supported list.

Since you said that it was Yamaha, and its a 16/10/40, I'm guessing model # is CDRW2100EZ - there is a firmware update available as well : http://solutionsnetwork.yamaha.com/k nowledge/SolutionView.asp?ID=040343048217965&QSOperationID=170372078731547&ResponseID=080343048158825& (http://solutionsnetwork.yamaha.com/knowledge/SolutionView.asp?ID=040343048217965&QSOperationID=170372078731547&ResponseID=080343048158825&)

Try these things, and get back to us with a model number on the drive.

Almost forgot, you said NEW AMD800. When you say AMD, you mean a Duron or Athlon/Thunderbird processor? Let us know that too!

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[This message has been edited by PJPilate (edited October 16, 2001).]

[Talonboy]

i;m using a duron

[UKMatt]

I had exactly the same problem.

My solution was to use win95/win98/winMe to burn the cds.

Just have to make a little alteration.

Right click My Computer, go to the performance tab, click "File System" and change the role of the computer to "Network Server", the default setting is desktop pc.

Not sure exactly what it does, but i understand it alters the cache somehow.

If your using WinMe theres a utility about called TweakME. That will alter the cache size for you aswell.

If anyone knows of a way to this in wi2k, let me know.

[confus-ed]

I'll just add my two cents to this, burnproof is a variation of variable writing and whatever they tell you about not being able to get buffer under-run you can.
Try using a removable device as the source for your temporary files, take it out whilst burning and lo you get under-run, so who's burn-proof now.

The most important thing is to find cdr software that properly supports your burner, you have tried the speed test included within your cdr software? Generally Yamaha Cdr drives are spot on and supported by all the leading software so look to your windows installation

[Talonboy]

we found the problem i dont know if it was in this forums ... i have to go into my BIOS and in my IDE for the CDRW (slave) I have to change it from Auto to "not installed" and BINGO it worked .. i tunred DMA on my system booted fine ... and i am now buring at 16 X with no problems !!!

:D

[Bill Robinson]

Yamaha CRW2100S {SCSI} CRW2100E {IDE}
drives are not true 16x wrters 10x rewriters. They start writing at 12x and speed up
to 16x. The drive pretty much is a 8x rewriter. The IDE CD-RWs have problems like buffer
underuns and more. The SCSI drives don’t have the problems.

I have a pentium II 350Mhz 256MB ram 18.2GB IBM Ultrastar 36LZX an Adaptec
2940u2w SCSI card and a Ricoh 7040s SCSI burner and I have never got any errors.
I use Nero 5.5 Easy CD Creator 4.03.