?? Win98se - Win2K - WinME ??

[Kabir Bhanot]

I own all of Gates OSes (even Win95 and Win3.1) and I have heard a lot of criticism on WinME. Should I switch to Win98? Isn’t WinME supposed to be better in every way?

At the moment I am dual booting Win2K and WinME on the Tyan Trinity MOBO, 10GB HD, 128MB RAM, Voodoo3 1000, Pent 550.

[wbatten]

Only if you have the proper Hardware! I have WinMe on two systems, and had no problems but I have read ugly things in regards to WinMe.

I prefer Win2K!

-wayne


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[MAC]

ME is quirky with some hardware. I have a PII with pretty common hardware. It works great. But have seen many computers that have all sorts of problems. If its for home use and your hardware is supported. Then go for it. But it is not all that different than 98se.

[xsrvx]

I installed ME at home and had nothing but problems and had to resort back to 98.
I have only had a few systems here with ME problems and they were all hardware related but the same hardware worked in 98.
So yes it seems to be quirky with hardware and I agree it isnt much better than 98.

[Sowulo]

If it's already loaded and running fine....there's your answer.

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[Kabir Bhanot]

All I get is a BSOD and a lock-up once and a while. But what about preformance??

Thanks

[lgsracer]

Because of the restore function running in the background you get a performance hit compared to W98. Also the media player sucks up alot of resources when it is up. It is not a bad OS, but if you know what you are doing I would recommend staying with W98.

[Darren Wilson]

Switch to Win2k. I did and never once have I regretted it. I regretted installing ME on my system to give it a good run through.

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[AlienDyne]

If your hardware supports W2K, I will agree with Darren. W2K is more stable than Win Me!

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[Sebring]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sowulo:
If it's already loaded and running fine....there's your answer.

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Good point. If you have it running and aren't having any problems then leave it be. WinME is a hate it or love it OS. You'd know right away if it wasn't going to work for you. As for hardware support that will increase with time. I run it myself with a Celeron 800, only 64MB's of ram, a 30GB hdd, a D-link ethernet card for the cable modem and an HP cd-burner and I have no problems with it at all. I'll add more ram eventually because that will gain you the most performance increase with the least amount of cash.

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[Jpbtennisman]

Switch to Win2k. I switched from 98SE to Win2K. When I got a new Sony laptop preloaded with ME, it constantly crashed, so I upgraded to 2k one day later.

[weazel]

I think it really depends on what your doing with your computer...if your running a game box I'd stay with ME or 98....win2k isn't much in the way of a gaming os

[pumpkinhead77]

I did and then again didnt like the fact that it lost dos(for teh most part) it boots faster and runs faster, but anything that has to use dos doesnt want to work right at least thats been my experience, i have me but went back to 98se.If you can try dual booting

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[Kabir Bhanot]

Thanx, see I can't just use Windows 2000 Pro because I have a Turtle Beach Montego II Quadzilla sound card and the two back speakers don't work. It only works in Windows 9x.

[Shaidar Haran]

Don't get ME if you don't have to. The only reason I'm running it is because it's OEM. I had bought ME for my earlier computer (came with free zip drive..I figured what the heck) and all I ended up with was crash after crash after crash. Not just hardware, but software too...soooo...don't waste the money on it. If you need to upgrade, for say USB, get 98SE....and wait for the next version of windows....which, if ME is any indication, will be full of nice friendly(or not so friendly) bugs.

-Oo MachinShin oO@cs.com

[webskater1]

XP will be the best Q!!!!!!!

Get a beta at www.msdn.micorsoft.com (http://www.msdn.micorsoft.com) !!

[webskater1]

XP will be the best Q!!!!!!!

Get a beta at www.msdn.micorsoft.com (http://www.msdn.micorsoft.com) !!

[Shades]

Win 2000 is great!!! That is my primary OS at home - default on boot.ini

However, if you are into games, 2000 isn't that good at running the older type games. New ones are okay cos most of them have 2000 support.

I still keep a 1gig partition with win98se just in case I feel like digging any of those goodole oldies out of the cupboard. Other than that I would say I use 2000 prolly 95% of the time.

I have ME but didn't see why I should load an OS which I use 5% of the time hogging up 300mb extra hdd when 98se did the equiv. job.

[AlienDyne]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by webskater1:
XP will be the best Q!!!!!!!

Get a beta at www.msdn.micorsoft.com (http://www.msdn.micorsoft.com) !!</font>

Wouldn't it be wiser to just wait for the final version and then tell whether it's good or not???

BTW, the link isn't working for me.



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[Kabir Bhanot]

What is XP?

[mogul218]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AlienDyne:
Wouldn't it be wiser to just wait for the final version and then tell whether it's good or not???

BTW, the link isn't working for me.

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The link doesn't work because he spelled microsoft wrong.

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[mogul218]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kabir Bhanot:
What is XP?</font>

Check out this link. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/

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[mulengro]

I brought a time pc(uk) with me installed......it musn't have liked my hardware setup......every time i shut down
BSOD errors came to a point when i started it up one day 16 colors no mouse.....no sound all my drivers were disabled........
just installed win 2k......what a difference...... just need to sort my cr*ppy windriver out..........

[Darren Wilson]

Even the beta's of XP are not a patch on the beta's of 2K that I had.
XP= Xploiting Punters XP= Xtremely Pants XP= Xtremely Pi$$ed off due to it overwriting my Win2k installation totally then deciding to not let me even get back into 2K when it set itself up as a dual boot system. XP= Xtremely Poor which is what Microsoft must be at the moment to even think about releasing this pile of junk later this year!!! XP= Xactly as we Planned it by releasing ME which so many people were pi$$ed off with that they will now go out and buy XP to try to allieviate the cock up they made. XP= X-Patriot, which is what Bill Gates will have to become when the USA and the DOJ realise his Anti=Piracy measures are an invasion of privacy and human rights http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif XP= Xtremely Pathetic that IE6 (even in beta stages) doesn't have full support for DHTML, so a lot of sites you are stuck on the homepage as the navigation doesn't work!!!


Can't think of anymore at the moment, but u may have guessed that XP to me is like pi$$ing into a hurricane force wind http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif And I would rather do the latter than go with XP http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif

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[QSECOFR]

Well said Darren! XP isn't worth the CD it's shipped on...that is if Bill will even let you have a CD!

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[Jpbtennisman]

What's the bitch list for WinXP? I'm one happy home user running on Win2k Pro (more home users are switching every day). Should I stick with 2000 or upgrade to XP?

[Darren Wilson]

Tennisman

Stick with 2k.

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[cyberhh]

Does Windows ME work well for you? Does it do what you need it to do? Then leave it alone - if it is better for you then why switch, I personally had nothing but problems with it, however I also am a bit picky and run some strange stuff.

[half-a-nerd]

Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
Even the beta's of XP are not a patch on the beta's of 2K that I had.
XP= Xploiting Punters XP= Xtremely Pants XP= Xtremely Pi$$ed off due to it overwriting my Win2k installation totally then deciding to not let me even get back into 2K when it set itself up as a dual boot system. XP= Xtremely Poor which is what Microsoft must be at the moment to even think about releasing this pile of junk later this year!!! XP= Xactly as we Planned it by releasing ME which so many people were pi$$ed off with that they will now go out and buy XP to try to allieviate the cock up they made. XP= X-Patriot, which is what Bill Gates will have to become when the USA and the DOJ realise his Anti=Piracy measures are an invasion of privacy and human rights http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif XP= Xtremely Pathetic that IE6 (even in beta stages) doesn't have full support for DHTML, so a lot of sites you are stuck on the homepage as the navigation doesn't work!!!


Can't think of anymore at the moment, but u may have guessed that XP to me is like pi$$ing into a hurricane force wind http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif And I would rather do the latter than go with XP http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif



Hey man, if you think ol' BG is bad with his anti piracy thing wait till you see what he comes up with in XP. MS has lost billions in the NASDAQ crash and he aint in a generous mood with pirating types!!

[Darren Wilson]

Originally posted by Lion:
Hey man, if you think ol' BG is bad with his anti piracy thing wait till you see what he comes up with in XP. MS has lost billions in the NASDAQ crash and he aint in a generous mood with pirating types!!

Err that is what I was referring to.....

I know for a fact that even legitimate users, such as myself and a lot of the others on the boards, will not want the hassle of phoning MS if and when we upgrade our hardware, and need to reinstall.

If MS are only releasing XP to make what they have lost on the NASDAQ, then I suggest that we all boycott this next version of Windows??

Anyway, I have made my mind up from the Beta versions I have recieved, so I don't kow why I am continuing posting on this thread.

[mahdi]

Anyway, I have made my mind up from the Beta versions I have recieved, so I don't kow why I am continuing posting on this thread.
Your just trying to get to your 3000th post, that's all :D

[Darren Wilson]

Not at all...

Bugger, you made me do it :)

[half-a-nerd]

Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
Err that is what I was referring to.....

I know for a fact that even legitimate users, such as myself and a lot of the others on the boards, will not want the hassle of phoning MS if and when we upgrade our hardware, and need to reinstall.

If MS are only releasing XP to make what they have lost on the NASDAQ, then I suggest that we all boycott this next version of Windows??

Anyway, I have made my mind up from the Beta versions I have recieved, so I don't kow why I am continuing posting on this thread.


I dont quite follow your logic. Why should you reinstall if you upgrade your hardware? Anti-piracy methods are used to weed out illegitimate users and software makers have every right to protect their intellectual copyrights even if they make you sweat a bit. I dont believe you would complain unless you are running pirate software yourself.

[Sowulo]

Originally posted by Lion:

I dont quite follow your logic. Why should you reinstall if you upgrade your hardware? Anti-piracy methods are used to weed out illegitimate users and software makers have every right to protect their intellectual copyrights even if they make you sweat a bit. I dont believe you would complain unless you are running pirate software yourself.


You're new hear so you need to know one thing: NEVER, NEVER, use such ill conceived and poorly deduced logic to attack or otherwise attempt to impune the integrity of this site's most respected contributor. Your ignorant flame doesn't deserve my time but since you're new, I will help you out with a couple of easy facts:

Most of us reinstall fairly regularly for a variety of reasons. I test a lot of new stuff on my system so that I can give informed opinions and advice to my clients. A lot of new hardware and software really thrash a system (like the RAID controller that had mislabeled controllers that led me to mirror my data drive to a new drive!!!). I will NOT call MS every time I reinstall! AND, it is always preferable to install clean when changing major components to make absolutely certain that every function and device is detected and configured optimally.

Finally, I build, test, and repair probably a 1000 or so sytems each year. Do I want to waste my time calling MS everytime I have to reinstall it's product after some dummy left their system unprotected from viruses and their OS gets thrashed? Copy protection is fine. Serial numbers are fine. But don't expect me to waste my time calling MS four or five times a day!!!!!

[Darren Wilson]

Originally posted by Lion:

I dont quite follow your logic. Why should you reinstall if you upgrade your hardware? Anti-piracy methods are used to weed out illegitimate users and software makers have every right to protect their intellectual copyrights even if they make you sweat a bit. I dont believe you would complain unless you are running pirate software yourself.

With XP when you 'activate it' your system is given a Tag depending on what hardware you have installed at the time. Which means should you have to reinstall after you have changed hardware you will need a new activation code, else you could easily 'loan' it to a friend and they would be able to use your activation code, which would then negate MS even including it.

[half-a-nerd]

Originally posted by Sowulo:

You're new hear so you need to know one thing: NEVER, NEVER, use such ill conceived and poorly deduced logic to attack or otherwise attempt to impune the integrity of this site's most respected contributor. Your ignorant flame doesn't deserve my time but since you're new, I will help you out with a couple of easy facts:

Most of us reinstall fairly regularly for a variety of reasons. I test a lot of new stuff on my system so that I can give informed opinions and advice to my clients. A lot of new hardware and software really thrash a system (like the RAID controller that had mislabeled controllers that led me to mirror my data drive to a new drive!!!). I will NOT call MS every time I reinstall! AND, it is always preferable to install clean when changing major components to make absolutely certain that every function and device is detected and configured optimally.

Finally, I build, test, and repair probably a 1000 or so sytems each year. Do I want to waste my time calling MS everytime I have to reinstall it's product after some dummy left their system unprotected from viruses and their OS gets thrashed? Copy protection is fine. Serial numbers are fine. But don't expect me to waste my time calling MS four or five times a day!!!!!

Just because I dont have a string of stars to my name does not mean I am an ignoramus. However, you have shown your incompetence with your [post]. I have installed, de installed and reinstalled hardware for myself and friends hundreds of times without ever having to phone MS. I still re iterate: MS has a right to impose whatever safeguard to ensure their intellectual property does not get stolen.

[Darren Wilson]

Originally posted by Lion:
Just because I dont have a string of stars to my name does not mean I am an ignoramus. However, you have shown your incompetence with your [post]. I have installed, de installed and reinstalled hardware for myself and friends hundreds of times without ever having to phone MS. I still re iterate: MS has a right to impose whatever safeguard to ensure their intellectual property does not get stolen.

We are talking about XP here, not other MS operating systems. If you read about what Microsoft are implementing into XP then you would know all about the individual machine ID that is being implemented into XP. I know this to be fact as I am a registered Beta Tester for Microsoft and the number does not work on another system as I have tried on my spare system here by installing XP onto it with one configuration, then after entering the Activation code, wiped the system clean and added a NIC, and reinstalled XP. The activation code I was told originally would not activate whilst the NIC was installed. Power off and remove NIC, and the Activation code works.

Please if you wish to carry on posting on this forum, do not insult others. I find nothing wrong with Sowulo's post and he was pointing out facts.

I will inform the Administrator of this event and should anything else occur in the same context, I will seek that posting rights are removed.

This topic has gone on long enough and it is now closed.