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ringo2143z
April 13th, 2001, 05:15 PM
Has anyone ever noticed Win Me clocking their processor? I replaced '98 the other day and for some reason Me is clocking my PII-400. I've checked the temps and bios - bios says 400MHz, and it is above normal temperatures. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Sowulo
April 13th, 2001, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by ringo2143z:
Has anyone ever noticed Win Me clocking their processor? I replaced '98 the other day and for some reason Me is clocking my PII-400. I've checked the temps and bios - bios says 400MHz, and it is above normal temperatures. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I have no idea what you mean. How is WinMe 'clocking' your processor?
SuBz
April 13th, 2001, 06:38 PM
Uhh, If you mean overclocking your processor than maybe it is because you run a 3d game or something very cpu intensive. I dont know if it is even possible for ME to set the clocks on your processor, so maybe your just paranoid. :)

Install a better cooling system if what you got doesn't keep it at "normal" temps.
ringo2143z
April 14th, 2001, 03:36 PM
I've checked the temps when it's idling and they're above normal for the 400MHz clock. DirectX and other CPU speed testers say that it's running at 412MHz, not much, but enough to cause nasty heat.
jbar1
April 14th, 2001, 06:42 PM
Check and see what you have running in the back ground as far as heat is concerned. The OS can't over clock the system. If it is misreporting the speed then there is a good chanch it is misreporting the temp. Clock controled by Bios or pinned as you didnt give enough info. Both 98 and ME often give incorrect readings.
ringo2143z
April 15th, 2001, 08:20 AM
The clock speed is bios controlled. Before with '98, the PC idled at 32C, now it's somewhere around 36C, suggesting a bit of overclocking. Don't get me wrong, I've dabbled with the CPU speed before, it's just I have to run it at 400MHz nowadays to get other things to run (like my CD-RW). I've checked the speed with CPUID, DirectX 8 and SiSoft Sandra 2001, and they all report 412MHz. Temps are monitored with a HW monitor which came with the M-board, which hasn't been wrong so far.
Sowulo
April 15th, 2001, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by ringo2143z:
The clock speed is bios controlled. Before with '98, the PC idled at 32C, now it's somewhere around 36C, suggesting a bit of overclocking. Don't get me wrong, I've dabbled with the CPU speed before, it's just I have to run it at 400MHz nowadays to get other things to run (like my CD-RW). I've checked the speed with CPUID, DirectX 8 and SiSoft Sandra 2001, and they all report 412MHz. Temps are monitored with a HW monitor which came with the M-board, which hasn't been wrong so far.

True an overclocked CPU will run hotter than it did when set at its default speed but that doesn't mean any CPU running hotter is overclocked. You changed your OS and the CPU is working harder than it did before, therefore--hotter. More speed will equal hotter temperatures but hotter temperatures do not define higher speed.
ringo2143z
April 17th, 2001, 04:00 PM
I acquired a copy of SoftFSB to play with, and when it loads and detects the FSB of 103MHz which would give the 412MHz. Further fiddling allows a change back to 400 or up to 448, which detect properly in all my speed utils. Ideas & suggestions?
LagMonster
April 18th, 2001, 10:33 AM
I don't mean to sound mean, but buy more fans if your concerned about it. I wouldn't really worry about it myself until you notice a performance hit from the heat. If you really concerned about heat underclock your cpu.
ringo2143z
April 18th, 2001, 11:39 AM
fans are a good suggestion, but I have filled my case with 10 already. i guess the heat isn't as serious as other people experience, but I'm not happy about it since I like to overclock sometimes.
tablesalt
April 19th, 2001, 07:42 PM
412MHz won't kill it. One thing to look at is some mainboards have a setting in the BIOS to boost performance by upping the FSB a few MHz, I had an Abit BX6 rev 2 that did this by adding 3MHz so in turn my P3 500 was running at 515MHz, not a huge difference and the heat was negligable. Even now my Athlon 900 is being as reported as running at 908MHz, I'm perfectly happy to leave it alone.
ringo2143z
April 20th, 2001, 04:23 PM
fair enough. i'll leave it for the time being until it causes a problem. cheers
JeanneD
April 28th, 2001, 04:38 PM
10 fans? I hope you have a great power supply :)
ringo2143z
April 29th, 2001, 04:46 AM
They all spin alright, so that's ok. Most of them are in parallel and I've checked things out with my electronic engineer of a brother, so no probs there.
PaulDavidCox
April 29th, 2001, 11:13 AM
Hey Ringo,a little poem for your sheep mate.
Mary had a little lamb who's fleece was thick and whispy,
It diagnosed with foot and mouth so now it's black and crispy!!
Seriously mate what the hell do you need with 10 fans running a PII 400?
Sowulo
April 29th, 2001, 02:45 PM
was wondering the same thing myself....
ringo2143z
April 29th, 2001, 03:18 PM
hey that's a cruel poem, but what the hell - we don't have it in the NE of Scotland. The 10 fans exist to cool my hard drives, graphics card and sound card. My TNT2 is clocked to something stupid, the SB-Live produces silly amounts of heat normally and the hard drives...well they'd warm the case by about 5-8 degrees C if left uncooled. There's not exactly much room for air to swill (more foot & mouth) about in the case so I just pile in fans to suck in and out what I can.
ringo2143z
April 29th, 2001, 03:19 PM
and another reason...I had a heap kicking about doing nothing, so I threw the lot in.
PaulDavidCox
April 30th, 2001, 10:52 AM
Fair enough mate, you can never have enough cooling. Do you wear ear defenders?
Wayward Clam
April 30th, 2001, 11:21 AM
Dude! My ego is bruised! I thought I was king with 9 fans on my Athlon 550. Now I have to go buy two more! :)
LadyTech
April 30th, 2001, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
Dude! My ego is bruised! I thought I was king with 9 fans on my Athlon 550. Now I have to go buy two more! :)

Won't it get a bit cramped in that shell with 2 more fans? Just get a small window air conditioner.. *G*
Wayward Clam
April 30th, 2001, 11:59 AM
Ladytech... nice suggestion. But there's always room in this shell for one more fan of mine! :)

Or were you trying to unload a used air conditioner?
LagMonster
April 30th, 2001, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
Dude! My ego is bruised! I thought I was king with 9 fans on my Athlon 550. Now I have to go buy two more! :)

its not how many you have its the size that matters... 120mm all the way! :p A few of them ought to do the trick
ringo2143z
April 30th, 2001, 03:00 PM
The only fans I could ever get cheap enough were 80mm things - fairly quiet and it doesn't matter if I cook them. Right at the start of my fan spree, my PC did make a noise not dissimilar to a Boeing 747, but I solved that by a bit of handy shifting about (they were rubbing up the case). I wouldn't say the noise is too bad now; I just turn up the speakers further and I don't notice.
3fingersalute
April 30th, 2001, 09:42 PM
Won't all those fans draw a little bit of power away from where it's needed????
ringo2143z
May 1st, 2001, 02:56 PM
It doesnt appear to. My CD writer sometimes has problems, but it's a bit of a problem in itself for some reason...as far as I'm aware, fans aren't the cause. I juggle the things about regularly anyhow to find the best spots, so I'll maybe change something the next time and see what happens.