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QSECOFR
March 7th, 2001, 11:05 PM
I use InocualteIT PE. It's free. I'm not 100% sure if it's the best, but for free, you can't complain. It offers realtime protection, and you can set it up to check for updates on the web automatically (works good on like a cable or LAN. I haven't tried it on a dial up)
We run a version on our Exchange server(you have to purchase a license for this version) at the office, and it does good dectecting the viruses, then making them non executable by renaming the file to *.avb It even notifies the admin by email with a report of viruses when you run a full Exchange scan. I probably gave you more info about the software than you wanted, but it could help someone.
http://antivirus.cai.com
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Darren Wilson
March 8th, 2001, 04:29 AM
Norton gets my vote as well
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Gabriel
March 8th, 2001, 06:13 AM
I Prefer Mcafee!
it offers muc more for Servers
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Jvaguy
March 8th, 2001, 10:48 AM
Norton 2001 .. and updated about every 10 days
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*BSOD*
March 8th, 2001, 10:58 AM
Personal Machine = I use InocualteIT PE also for my personal machine.No probs with this software
Workstation =I have had System Hang Problems with Inoculan 4.0 / InoculateIT 4.5x Clients for Windows 95&98.
Changed to PE
Server = Scanmail http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm6.gif
MacGyver
March 8th, 2001, 01:39 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by *BSOD*:
[B]I have had System Hang Problems with Inoculan 4.0 / InoculateIT 4.5x Clients for Windows 95&98. Changed to PE.
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Kinda sad isn't it, when the free software works better than the expensive licensed stuff. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm23.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm13.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm36.gif
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All this technology, and I still can't download a pizza! http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/mad.gif
pcshark
March 9th, 2001, 10:09 AM
Norton Corporate Edition. It's what we use inhouse, it's the only thing we sell to our customers (unless they specify otherwise, but they haven't so far).
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tk421
March 12th, 2001, 01:52 AM
I started using the McAfee online virus scan. It's cool, because I can quickly and easily scan customers' computers onsite. And the definitions are online, so (I assume) they're always very up to date.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tk421:
I started using the McAfee online virus scan. It's cool, because I can quickly and easily scan customers' computers onsite. And the definitions are online, so (I assume) they're always very up to date.
tk
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Though I agree that for Scanning this may be a Pretty good sollution, I think that computers also need some sort of virus Shield (TSR).
Also having a Dos based Antivirus in your Baggy can be Extremely helpfull!
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xPoseidonx
March 12th, 2001, 09:07 AM
Business -Norton Corporate Edition 7.5
personal - TrendMicro's PC-Cillin
- my 2 cents
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weazel
March 12th, 2001, 08:45 PM
i like AVP
Froghead
March 14th, 2001, 02:40 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tk421:
[B]I started using the McAfee online virus scan. It's cool, because I can quickly and easily scan customers' computers onsite. And the definitions are online, so (I assume) they're always very up to date.
tk
That works great provided you can get online or get to McAfee. The most popular virus at my store last fall was W95.MTX and it blocked access to AV sites. It and others can hide from AV software in WIndows as well. In the past six months I've dealt with over 100 infected machines at my store and have found the only sure method is with Norton 2000/2001 (with updates installed) scanning in DOS from a clean boot. If viruses are found then you must follow removal instructions found at your favourite AV site. Note - Sometimes they're not always right either.
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Vip_Keldon
March 15th, 2001, 11:24 AM
For my office we use Norton Antivirus Corporate 7.5 and so far so good i'm running 50 workstations and its has kept them all clean. Other good thing is it scans the email attachment b4 it lets you open it. Other programs do this as well but for my corporate WAN norton has my thumbs up http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smile.gif
SeniorTech
March 15th, 2001, 07:47 PM
For all of you that love Norton and McAfee I did a study of them plus Innoculan and Innoculan PE ver. AVP. I infected a system with 38 will known and dangerous virus and had each software scan the system to see which ones it did and did not find. AVP found all 38. Innoculan found 26. McAfee(newest version with updates) found 28. Norton 2001 with updates found 22. And InnoculanPE did better than Nortons.. So you tell me which one you would recommend/use. AVP has found every virus than has been infected on a system. It scans emails/archives BEFORE you one them and monitors files as they enter exit your system. Even if the file has been access by another system on the network it gets scanned. There is only one virus that I have found that it will not pick when entering your system and that is Bymer. If you want a copy of the report email me and I'll send it to you.
nightzulu
March 16th, 2001, 12:35 PM
Well my opion about anti virus software is every one has there likes and dislike...i use a free 1 callded AVG and it does great and i love it and i run pc cillian 98 which works realy great also.
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SNAFU
March 16th, 2001, 05:27 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nightzulu:
Well my opion about anti virus software is every one has there likes and dislike...
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Good call. I agree. I used AVG for a long time. I liked it alot. I now have Norton 2000, which works well for me too.
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Deity
March 16th, 2001, 07:19 PM
I prefer to use McAfee, simply for the various features involved in the program, but there seem to be issues with the software too often. Guess it's time to switch.
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Renée
March 17th, 2001, 12:53 AM
I gave up Norton and McAfee for Aladdin's eSafe (http://www.esafe.com). It's free and works really well for me so far. Has its own mini-firewall, too. Best of all, it doesn't freak my system out the way Norton and McAfee sometimes did. Just my $0.02. Sometimes people's opinions on AV products are as varied as they are about drycleaners.
crazyman
March 19th, 2001, 06:56 PM
I have used norton for years and I installed inoculate a few months ago on one of my boxes and it seems to work fine.I have had no virus problems.They both seem to work good.
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anothergeorge
March 20th, 2001, 10:54 AM
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned AVG for home use. The free version is extremely user friendly, and it comes out well in most tests that I have read. I have Norton 2001, but I find that it takes over the computer too much. Also I downloaded the latest update the other day and it took out some of my Web Drivers. When my current year ends, I think I'll switch to AVG, I have recommended it to all my friends and they all seem very happy with it.
Tushar
March 28th, 2001, 08:30 AM
I would vote for McAfee. They come out with extra.dats in case of outbreak & also update weekly their DAT files.
Particularly useful when situations like the latest spoof caused due to Verisign certificate issued to a person claiming to be MS employee. Patch from MS itself is yet to come.
In fact I went to their site for this particular case because of windrivers.com and yes it was available there.
jay015
March 28th, 2001, 08:55 AM
Personally prefer Mcafee... ;)
Tony Vallester
March 28th, 2001, 10:18 AM
All my aproval to inoculateIT PE, it really works, my lan is free now from viruses. and they will release new updates almost weely, and change the engine every 6 months or something, so they are ahead of many paid for it a.v. :D
Manicheya
March 29th, 2001, 08:37 PM
F-Secure AV is the one I use at home, work and for customers.
Haven't had an issue with it at all. Updates can be centrally managed (policy-based). It uses 3 detection engines (including Kaspersky's AVP) and doesn't miss anything. More importantly it is good at removing virii also.
As for updates, they do them daily or more if required. Updates can be done automatically or manually for you control freaks.
When the Happy Virus made the rounds, F-Secure had a fix within minutes for people who didn't update, while other "popular" AV programs mentioned above took quite a bit longer to provide ANY updates.
jrd
March 30th, 2001, 04:55 AM
I dunno bout Norton. The IT dept. I work in is responsible for 1000+ machines, and we have chosen McAfee NetShield over NAV (in fact putting on any Norton product is almost giving yourself a virus....) Anyhow, we had NAV at one site on or WAN that just lost a huge amount of data to the LoveLetter worm. In fact, after it took several scans of the server drives before Norton stopped finding anymore viruses. The find command had a different story to tell when we searched for *.vbs . Then we installed McAfee. And if your using it on a network, the netshield controls make it simple to update all the DAT's on your workstations and schedule scans etc.
Long live Network Associates :D
swork
March 30th, 2001, 02:19 PM
Any of you heard of Sophos? www.sophos.com. (http://www.sophos.com.)
I used this in a Novell environment with W95 workstations and then in WinNT Server with W98. Depending on your licence it can also allow remotes. The installation is a doddle and the support is excellent. Price-wise, I suppose it's quite hefty but for Administrators it's a real time-saver.
However, at home on my desktop m/c W98 and OP97 with Outlook 98 and my laptop m/c with WinNT4 WS and OP2000, I use NAV2001 as it fits in nicely with my other Norton utilities.
Only trouble with NAV2001 is the listing of protected e-mail clients. Symantec seems to have a problem with listing (although the POProxy.exe file works anyway) OL98 as a protected client - although OL2000 has no probs.
I'm one of those DREARY PEOPLE who likes to keep my program builders down to a minimum so it's just Bill and Symantec's (Norton) for me - but I can highly recommend Sophos - check it out!
shadow1
March 30th, 2001, 05:02 PM
With bloodhound heuristics turned up to max norton has stopped all virii on my servers.
tha 4NiK8R
March 31st, 2001, 07:01 PM
You opened a can of worms with this one...well here is my opinion: goto www.grisoft.com (http://www.grisoft.com) ang get AVG. It is free and it has nailed every virus I have thrown at it. I did extensive testing of Norton and McAfee and ended up with AVG(the free one beat out the "corporate standards" who would have guessed).
JeanneD
April 1st, 2001, 08:14 PM
Norton 2001 gets my vote hands down.
At my store I don't know how many pcs I have gotten in running mcaffee that either detected the virus but couldn't fix it or didn't detect it at all,
Nortons also picks up a lot of password trojans particular to AOL which a majority of my customers use. The CD is bootable also. Plus it live-updates automatically EVERY time you go online if you set it, without prompting which is great for average users who think their 3-4 year old virus software that came on their computer and has never been updated is doing the trick.
Hoagie
April 1st, 2001, 08:35 PM
I use InnoculateIT PE too on my home PC and so far it's saved my setup from quite a number of email viruses, so yah! It works great here too.
I believe that a new version of InnoculateIT PE is due out within a week or so too! :D Look out for it, it's got much improved real time protection!
Originally posted by QSECOFR:
[B]I use InocualteIT PE. It's free. I'm not 100% sure if it's the best, but for free, you can't complain.
cyberhh
April 2nd, 2001, 10:17 AM
I use Mcafee, NAV and Innoculan.
dopeyismyhero
April 2nd, 2001, 07:56 PM
As the virii specialist of my company (and co-worker to Tech), I have tested McAfee (marginal at best), Norton's (it's criminal that this software is even sold) Innoculate PE and IT, F-PROT and F-Secure Server, AVX, AVG, and AVP. The only two that are even close to same quality as AVP is FSecure and Innoculate IT, but even those two aren't good enough for me to recommend. If you are serious about protecting your system, AVP is the ONLY one that works for 99% of the viruses out there. To you Norton users, 84% of infected machines I serviced that had Nortons on it were up-to-date AND STILL DIDN'T catch them. Email me and I'll send you the link to our in-house test and you can see for yourself
Dopey
MacGyver
April 2nd, 2001, 08:34 PM
I think what it all boils down to, is that you can protect your computer seven ways to Sunday, with Antivirus, firewalls, and the like. But those aren't 100% effective. There are always new viruses coming out and even the mighty AVP can't detect every one. And that firewall you're using? Somebody has found a hole to exploit and attack you.
<H2>I HAVE NO PITY FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BACK UP THEIR DATA.</H2> you get what you deserve.
dopeyismyhero
April 2nd, 2001, 09:21 PM
An often forgotten point, and very valid, thanks for kicking us back to reality.
"My computer is making loud metalic clicking noises, can you fix it? I can't be without it! My business is dead without it!"
"Sure, sounds like you might have a dead hard drive, bring it in and we can put another one in. We can load your OS for you and any software you might need."
"Shat about my files, you can save them, right?"
"Ummm, not cheaply, no. That HD is dead and retreiving the data will be very expensive if it is possible at all. You do have a back up, right?"
Silence
Sobs
Click-dialtone
Sound familiar?
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