[RESOLVED] Anybody know anything about TVs?

[window_washer]

I know this isn't PC related... but do any of the brains around here know anything about TVs?
It's a really nice Zenith, about 10 years old, and the picture has just become compressed into this bright pulsing line across the center of the screen. Whatever was causing the picture to expand vertically is gone (horizontal, sound, and signal are still just fine).

It happened over the weekend, lasted a couple of days, then went back to normal. Now it's screwed again, the same way.

I realize there's probably not a damn thing I can do about it... but I thought I would try the techs here anyways and see what the expert opinion was.


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[Fubarian]

Sounds like either a short or the tubes goin'

heh, I'm a pc tech, not a tv tech though

try takin it to a repair shop?

[Blehboy]

Give it a whack on the side or wrap some tin foil around the rabbit ears. That usually does the trick. lol http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm27.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm27.gif

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[MacGyver]

Some of the older TV's (15-20 years old) used to have a myriad of controls on the back for things like vertical hold, horizontal hold, etc. Sometimes those extra controls could salvage a picture, sometimes not. Try turning down the brightness all the way, sometimes that helps, too.

But if it's only 10 years old, it likely doesn't have any of that stuff. Best to toss it and buy a new one. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm14.gif

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[bad_mojo]

There might be some pots on the insides that you can adjust that'll bring back your horizontal, but I wouldn't advise getting in there if you don't know what you're doing.

I have a degree in electronics and I learned just enough about tv's to know enough to stay out of them cause I don't know enough!

TV's can light you up like a christmas tree, even if they have been unplugged for months!!

[TheComputerKid]

My dad was a TV repairman :-D

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[Fubarian]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by bad_mojo:
TV's can light you up like a christmas tree, even if they have been unplugged for months!!</font>

Naa, only the older ones don't have a bleeder on the 30,000v (give or take, depends on the tv) cap. Those you gotta look out for, but those are from TVs that the screen is 1/4 the size of the actual box and from like 1940s and 50s.

30,000v caps are FUN to play with. Kinda like a 1 farad 220v cap...hehe, sparky sparky http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif

[bryan_the_tech]

I have a bad feeling that we are going to have a fried clam http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm34.gif

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[LPetrarca]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by TheComputerKid:
My dad was a TV repairman :-D

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That would be me. Sounds like the deflection yoke is shot. It'll cost you as much or more to fix it than to buy a new one.



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[AbSoLuTeZeR0]

hmmm 10 year old tv, maybe it sounds like its time to buy a new tv.

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[AbSoLuTeZeR0]

how big is the tv?

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[furlong47]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by LPetrarca:
That would be me. Sounds like the deflection yoke is shot. It'll cost you as much or more to fix it than to buy a new one.

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Do I know about television? Why, that is my major http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm1.gif

He is correct. The electron gun is simply tracing over and over the center of the screen without moving vertically. I would suggest finding a good repair shop (working inside a television receiver can be very dangerous) or buying a new TV.


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[window_washer]

Thanks for all the advice, folks, you have been very informative. I was considering bringing it to our local TV repairman for a quote, but I know he charges $60 an hour and takes forever to finish his jobs, so we are probably just gonna look into getting a used TV as a replacement. That is, unless it turns out our house insurance covers it.

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[Jpbtennisman]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by bryan_the_tech:
I have a bad feeling that we are going to have a fried clam http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm34.gif

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Mmm and i'm damn hungry too ..here clammy clammy clammy...dinnertime..hehe

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[GJFowler]

Deflection Yoke failure is possible, but uncommon. If it comes & goes it's quite likely to be dry solder joints. If you know a radio ham or electronics hobbyist who would be willing to solder over the circuit board for you, that may bring it up. ONLY if they know what they're doing, as others have said, there are dangerous voltages in TV's.

Don't fiddle with any adjustments to see if it fixes it, it won't & we hate getting "fiddled" sets in for repair.

Other possibilities for a 10yr old set include dying electrolytic capacitors, or some other component failure, possibly temperature sensitive. A set of that age will use a combination of discrete transistors and integrated circuits for its operation, there will be no tubes, except for the CRT (picture tube).


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[opiate]

only help I can offer is...

if it cannot be operated from the remote then it's not worth it.

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[bad_mojo]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Fubarian:
Naa, only the older ones don't have a bleeder on the 30,000v (give or take, depends on the tv) cap. Those you gotta look out for, but those are from TVs that the screen is 1/4 the size of the actual box and from like 1940s and 50s.

30,000v caps are FUN to play with. Kinda like a 1 farad 220v cap...hehe, sparky sparky http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif</font>


Really??.....That's not what I was taught, but then again I kind of went through college in a haze!!!!

[Fubarian]

<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by bad_mojo:
Really??.....That's not what I was taught, but then again I kind of went through college in a haze!!!!</font>

oohhh hooo yea...those old tv's could toss you across the room if you touched it right http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif My teacher in High School was a college professor and had a phd in physics, and he brought on of those puppies in...the newer ones have more of a moron in mind (like me ! http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif) so that when the tv is turned off, it bleeds the cap to a ground so if you WOULD touch it, it wouldn't invent flight.

Of course, theres a x amount of time you have to wait but still.

[amcfreek]

ha im not a tech ,, probablly not a yoke problem at all , probably a leaking cap in the high voltage , power suply, leave the tv off for a while like atleast over night and slap in on the cellar floor,, cement il drain the power suplly,, any way unsolder all the big caps in the supply get youre self a good volt meter that measures caps and see if the values are correct,make shure you remember which side the stripe goes on the board a majik marker ill mark it.. ok im not a tech im a lamer i hate fixing tvs, if its not cold solder joints'' usual problem, or its like actually worthy spending tyme fixing i usually toss it at this point, it does sound like its in the power suply, high voltage section if its makin a squeeling noise toss it , the noise usually means high voltage problem in the picture tube s trans former, ya know the big red wire conected to the tube you , or youre cat shouldnt touch for some reason.. any way ive seen tvs at wally mart and that big k, dirt cheep, natuarally tvs are only ment to last like 3 years now adays before the landfill gets em so as far as fixing it dont spend to much time reviveing something youre time is worth $$$ in the amount of time you spend fixsing something you could make a profit on something else and buy a new tv with the profits hey a serious post what are my meds doin to meeeeeeeeeeeee ???????????!!!!!!!!!!

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[TheLow1]

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