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kubrick
October 3rd, 2001, 07:29 PM
Holy Shiznit!
I am formatting floppies like lightning! How the heck does XP do it so fast, or did all 9x OSes just not have that swing?

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Fubarian
October 3rd, 2001, 07:34 PM
I'm runnin XP right now, but i'm not really worried about how fast it formats floppies (probably just wipes the fat table)

So far, I've seen nothing amazing - already miss my win2k http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/frown.gif

Guess I'm stuck though....and I hate the cartoonish/Mac look

Cobra
October 3rd, 2001, 07:46 PM
Luna desktop interface actually seems to be MORE memory effecient than the plain old explorer shell in either XP or 2K. Just set it to silver instead of that hideous blue default color. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif

For an OS based on the 2K kernel, the backward compatibility is unbeatable. The choices you have for which HAL you wish to run under & the video tweaks are also very nice.

That BEAUTIFUL puke green start button. (Okay, maybe I'm being sarcastic on that one)

The fact that MSN Messenger is so tightly integrated with EVERYTHING that accesses the internet in any way, shape or form. (All right, that's a sarcastic one too).

For all the unecessary eye candy in it, WMP8 is actually pretty tight. Oh well, I have no problem with eye candy, as long as it isn't visually offensive & loads quick, which it does.

The stars & ballons & rainbow colors and stuff remind me of a bowl of Lucky Charms (I'm dead serious here...Lucky Charms is my favorite cereal and anything that makes me think of Lucky Charms can't be that bad)

Rob Zombie's new song "Feels So Numb" (wait a minute, that doesn't have a thing to do with XP, scratch that one. Then again, I did listen to in MP8 a couple of times, and the visualizations were pretty cool.... http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif )

The way thumbnails are displayed for MPGs & AVIs...this is VERY handy.

That damn 3D bowling game in Plus! for XP...damn, talk about addicting. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif

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"Black in the Sun
What have I done?
I feel so bad
I feel so numb"

Rob Zombie - "Feel So Numb"

mlowe
October 3rd, 2001, 11:08 PM
All that stuff is snazzy alright, but I must admit my FAVORITE feature is the remote desktop.

I can VPN into work from home, get my actual desktop at work and do what I need to do. No more trying to get the network to work properly over the vpn anymore.

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Matt
AKA ShadowKing
"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe."

Dav
October 4th, 2001, 12:04 AM
I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive. It was sent via Fedex yesterday, should get here tomorrow http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm45.gif

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Breakbeat Bob
October 4th, 2001, 12:15 AM
I have to admit, XP is nice. I loved 2000, but the fact that some games did not work on it made me mad. It has a linux type look going for it, and the Silver color scheme is nice. Also the fact that it found drivers for all my hardware, even my crappy Lexmark 3200 printer. Windows Media Player 8 is nice, but I still perfer Winamp because of its look and plugins. XP is a nice step up from 2000, although some people will disagree with me. Maybe I will go re-install SUSE Linux for the hell of it.

Garak
October 4th, 2001, 06:24 AM
i stuck XP on my spare p2 300, and wasnt dissapointed (apart from the fact that it didnt detect my old ISA sounblaster 16 http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/frown.gif )
but it really doesnt run to well on 128Meg of ram.. so ill probably install it on my 700 sometime (after backing up all my little bits & peices.)

well just my opinion.

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Gilbertk
October 4th, 2001, 07:00 AM
I will vait for the second edition to came out. I did that with Win95, Win98 . I installed Win2000 in my computer and after spending a saturday setting up all the drivers I got a message : " There is a update for Windos 2000 on the internet, would you like to update?" I click ok. After downloading and apply the update it rebooted my computer. It never finnish the boot, crash after crash, the computer never boot again. I erased and installed Win98 second edition. Never use verion 1.00 from any Microsoft product!!

Darren Wilson
October 4th, 2001, 07:57 AM
Notice that people are blaming Microsoft again???

Was there ever a Version 2 of Windows 2000??? NO. Why? Because it was so damn stable that there was no need for it. The service packs are going to continue as for a OS to be 100% bugfree it would take literally decades to do so.

What about all of the people out there who are still using 'version 1' editions of OS's?? I know plenty of people using Win95/98 first editions who have no problems at all. If the OS is that bad then everyone would be having the problems, wouldn't they?? I used Win2K without any service packs for absolutely ages with NOT ONE PROBLEM at all, neither did I get any problems after installing service packs or updates. Why?? If the updates were a problem, then I would have had all the hassles that some others have had , would I not?? The majority of the problems lie with incorrect BIOS settings (the major one), old drivers for hardware, bad hardware configuration, etc,etc. What may work under ONE operating system, may not under another, as some OS's are more leniant towards certain problems than others. Yes, Win2K can be very funny in regards to drivers & some hardware, but I have never seen a PC that I have built or worked on, crash after installing a MS Update, & believe me I have worked on a hell of a lot of machines with differing specs etc.

As for XP , I have been using it throughout the early beta stages to now, and I will go out on a limb and say that I have not found anything (except for Zone Alarm still) that will not run under it. I now believe that MS have found a worthy successor to Win2K (Professional Edition) and really this is what Millennium should have been really (Home edition).

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QSECOFR
October 4th, 2001, 08:51 AM
Moved to Windows XP Forum.

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Larommi
October 4th, 2001, 12:48 PM
I got ZA to run. It is a Pita though. Other than that I installed XP but it did not like some of my hardware. Still when I rebuild I plan on using it. Seemed pretty stable to me and a little patients got alot of stuff running that did not appear to at first.

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Larommi
October 4th, 2001, 12:56 PM
I almost forgot, it has MSconfig. The one windows utility I used the most!

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Cobra
October 4th, 2001, 02:58 PM
Weird...after upgrading from 2K, I've had no problems with ZA in XP Corp, or RC2 (the first version it was supposedly disabled in). Also, got it to work from a clean install, but I had to run the install in 2000 compatibility mode...still worked fine after install with no other caveats.

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"Black in the Sun
What have I done?
I feel so bad
I feel so numb"

Rob Zombie - "Feel So Numb"

Larommi
October 4th, 2001, 04:33 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Cobra:
Weird...after upgrading from 2K, I've had no problems with ZA in XP Corp, or RC2 (the first version it was supposedly disabled in). Also, got it to work from a clean install, but I had to run the install in 2000 compatibility mode...still worked fine after install with no other caveats.

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That would probably work easier than the hoops I jumped through.


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Falcon
October 4th, 2001, 05:22 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
Notice that people are blaming Microsoft again???

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Darren, you don't work for Microsoft...do you?
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Hehe, you're silly.

Darren Wilson
October 4th, 2001, 05:38 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Falcon:
Darren, you don't work for Microsoft...do you?
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I wish I did http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif

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Abit KT7A-RAID (Rock F'n Solid!!!) - AMD Athlon 1Ghz (10x100) - 1024Mb PC133 SDRAM - ATI Radeon (AGP4X) - Maxtor ATA100 30Gb - 2 x Seagate ATA66 (RAID 0 totalling 26Gb) - Toshiba SD-1202M DVD - Plextor PlexWriter 2410A (Buy One!!!!) - Creative Labs SB Live! Value (No Pops , Hiss or Crackles here) - 20" Eizo Flexscan Monitor - Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Final Release

Darren Wilson
October 4th, 2001, 05:40 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Cobra:
Weird...after upgrading from 2K, I've had no problems with ZA in XP Corp, or RC2 (the first version it was supposedly disabled in). Also, got it to work from a clean install, but I had to run the install in 2000 compatibility mode...still worked fine after install with no other caveats.

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It worked fine for me upon the upgrade, but after a reboot, it wouldn't load the Vector control. Using Norton Firewall now which gives a lot less alerts than ZA so I can get on with other things instead of checking what the alert is on ZA.

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System Specs
Abit KT7A-RAID (Rock F'n Solid!!!) - AMD Athlon 1Ghz (10x100) - 1024Mb PC133 SDRAM - ATI Radeon (AGP4X) - Maxtor ATA100 30Gb - 2 x Seagate ATA66 (RAID 0 totalling 26Gb) - Toshiba SD-1202M DVD - Plextor PlexWriter 2410A (Buy One!!!!) - Creative Labs SB Live! Value (No Pops , Hiss or Crackles here) - 20" Eizo Flexscan Monitor - Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Final Release

Larommi
October 5th, 2001, 12:11 AM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
It worked fine for me upon the upgrade, but after a reboot, it wouldn't load the Vector control. Using Norton Firewall now which gives a lot less alerts than ZA so I can get on with other things instead of checking what the alert is on ZA.

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DW, that is what it did to me. I would relaunch it and it would put the icon in the systray with an "x" in it then I closed and relaunched and it ran...like I said pita but it worked. Too bad xp did not like my configuration, I had to take it off anyhow.

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Darren Wilson
October 5th, 2001, 03:23 AM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Larommi:

DW, that is what it did to me. I would relaunch it and it would put the icon in the systray with an "x" in it then I closed and relaunched and it ran...like I said pita but it worked. Too bad xp did not like my configuration, I had to take it off anyhow.

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Wouldn't restart after closing though for me, but Norton, I feel, does a better job which is a personal preference.


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System Specs
Abit KT7A-RAID (Rock F'n Solid!!!) - AMD Athlon 1Ghz (10x100) - 1024Mb PC133 SDRAM - ATI Radeon (AGP4X) - Maxtor ATA100 30Gb - 2 x Seagate ATA66 (RAID 0 totalling 26Gb) - Toshiba SD-1202M DVD - Plextor PlexWriter 2410A (Buy One!!!!) - Creative Labs SB Live! Value (No Pops , Hiss or Crackles here) - 20" Eizo Flexscan Monitor - Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Final Release

Larommi
October 5th, 2001, 12:47 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
Wouldn't restart after closing though for me, but Norton, I feel, does a better job which is a personal preference.


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That's cool. I really have no idea what is or is not happening on mine so I might try that out.



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Jpbtennisman
October 6th, 2001, 10:12 AM
XP = looks badass

hehehe http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/smile.gif

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DVader
October 8th, 2001, 04:26 PM
I love XP because of the Win2K kernel stability and the Win9x compatability. I like the new look to.

I hate it because of the new Product Activation stuff. I think that will keep alot of people away from it.

In regaurds to formating, has anyone else setup an unpartitioned drive and install XP on it. I've used both the Format with NTFS(Fast) and Fat(Fast) option and they have been great!! It is quite impressive to see a OS partition and format a new (out of the box) 40gig HD in 30 seconds!


[This message has been edited by DVader (edited October 08, 2001).]

Pendragon
October 9th, 2001, 08:04 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Gilbertk:
I will vait for the second edition to came out. I did that with Win95, Win98 . I installed Win2000 in my computer and after spending a saturday setting up all the drivers I got a message : " There is a update for Windos 2000 on the internet, would you like to update?" I click ok. After downloading and apply the update it rebooted my computer. It never finnish the boot, crash after crash, the computer never boot again. I erased and installed Win98 second edition. Never use verion 1.00 from any Microsoft product!!</font>


XP "IS" the Ver 2.0 of the OS, Win2K was the Ver 1.0...

Win2000 (origanly called NT-5) was suposed to be the replacment for both NT4 & Win98, but the games software side of MS had a suprise for the OS dept. some of their MS branded games of less than 2 years old wouldn't run on Win2K... but it was too late to change the name back to NT-5, they had to stick with Win2K. That's why WinME was called ME not 2000, the name had already gone to NT-5, what a F**K UP

P.S. I think I'm falling in love with XP... the colours must be hypnotic, MS=Mind Control? Ha...
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drdoug99
October 11th, 2001, 02:12 AM
Darren Wilson....how can you have so many posts?? You've been here one month, and have made 253 posts per day!!! isn't there a flood control on this forum?

I find that pretty amazing, having so many post..wow. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm45.gif

as to XP, I like it alot, after I customized it to my liking, of course, I like any OS after I customize it to my liking http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm1.gif

Runs fast, stable, plays any game and program I throw at it.

To the people that was having problems with ZA. I had the same problem. Windows would boot up, ZA would try to initlize True Vector, it would close down. I hit teh ZA icon, it would get the "X" in the sys tray, I would close it, reopen, it would work fine.

WTF is up with that? I never figured it out. So then I went with Tiny Firewall, after putting up with ZA for a month like that. Tiny was good, but I was never that good with the rulesets, so I went back to ZA Pro. This time, it worked fine, as of now, it still works fine. Weird.

As to product activation, that doesnt bother me, since I could care less what Micorsoft does with my information, plus it's highly likely they would single me out of the other 270 million americans.

DJSEARCHING
October 11th, 2001, 02:59 AM
Bios,memory,and processor upgrade$ for the people who won't be buying new systems. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm1.gif

Still looking for a reason to love it though.

Darren Wilson
October 11th, 2001, 12:46 PM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by drdoug99:
Darren Wilson....how can you have so many posts?? You've been here one month, and have made 253 posts per day!!! isn't there a flood control on this forum?
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Because I originally registered way back in August 1998 but took a 'absence of leave' a few months ago and reregistered. The Admin was kind enough to restore my post count for me http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/biggrin.gif


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mpeton
October 15th, 2001, 11:28 AM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
Wouldn't restart after closing though for me, but Norton, I feel, does a better job which is a personal preference.


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Agree with you there. Norton seems to pickup on more activity anyways. I also love the cookie protection Norton gives you. Of course, I simply run both, as an extra level of protection, and also to check up on each other. Zone Alarm allowed a Trojan to pass through it, wile Norton picked it up right away.

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Dav
October 17th, 2001, 12:24 AM
<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Dav:
I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive. It was sent via Fedex yesterday, should get here tomorrow http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm45.gif

</font>I finally received it, and installed it. Been running it for over a week. To be honest, other than moving a few thing around, changing the color, or way things are shown, I'm not all that impressed.

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I really am trying to understand your point of view, but I can't seem to stick my head that far up my A$$

DJSEARCHING
October 17th, 2001, 02:05 AM
Dav,what are you saying.You just got rc-1?Didn't you get the email from conxions to download rc-2?You would have gotten to try it out sooner if you did. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi/cwmsmilies/cwm24.gif

jeremy_tosha
October 17th, 2001, 09:33 AM
I am running winXP pro corporate edition without any problems so far...

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"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook.

emkayusa
October 17th, 2001, 02:36 PM
Clear type! Makes a huge difference on a laptop.

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