Taking the next step....

[hugheysoup]

I have to say that I feel confident programming in c++, what would be the next easy language to learn that I could use. I will be learing Visual Basic this summer and Cobol in the Fall. I am looking for a language that I could just play with this Sring and Summer. If you can't tell I am a CIS major.

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[LagMonster]

I'd take up Java if I was you. Its really close to c++. If you really want to tinker read through some ASM tutorials. They really give a better understanding on how computer systems work.

Although It depends if you are interested in OOP or without objects. All the ASM tutorials I've seen are not OOP.

[KoWind7]

I would have to say ASM...if you're a(n)? CIS major, you'll end up as a network admin/manager or IT manager (after a little while), and knowing how the systems work, from the inside, and how hackers/virii/script kiddies, etc. are able to use ASM to their advantage, you'll be that much more effective in combatting/preventing and securing your network...

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[KoWind7]

BTW, ASM is not OOP...it's as close to programming in binary as I'd ever want to get, and no there is no Visual ASM (thank god...imagine the poorly written virii that we'd have to deal with then http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm24.gif )

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[LagMonster]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KoWind7:
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Now that would sorta fun.

POP.EAX(0x154h)

It'd be a little different at the least.
I found a free ASM compiler somewhere that has a wizard to creating ASM apps for windows. Thats sorta cool.

[hugheysoup]

Thanks guys...I think I will take up both during this summer.

Could you give me the link for the free complier fo ASM?

Later,

Hughey

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Coding is easy; All you do is sit staring at a terminal until the drops of blood form on your forehead.

Real Programmers don't eat quiche. They eat Twinkies and Szechwan food.

[BreakWindows]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by hugheysoup:
Could you give me the link for the free complier fo ASM?</font>

Search for NASM, TASM or MASM (preferably in that order). ASM isn't as bad as you'd think, and once you get used to it, programming in real languages gets pretty easy.

Of course, if you really want to develop good programming skills, l'd suggest skipping the ASM and trying out Lisp/SCHEME...it completely changes the way you view mathematical programming. About.com and Google turn up some pretty good tutorials for that.

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[SNAFU]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KoWind7:
I would have to say ASM...if you're a(n)? CIS major, you'll end up as a network admin/manager or IT manager (after a little while), and knowing how the systems work, from the inside, and how hackers/virii/script kiddies, etc. are able to use ASM to their advantage, you'll be that much more effective in combatting/preventing and securing your network...

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He's right. I,too, am a CIS Major and right now I'm an Net Admin (speciality...virii and "third party entry"). Don't worry about VB. It's cake. ASM is very handy. (I'm learning it...) and I got TASM from www.tlsecurity.net (http://www.tlsecurity.net) COBAL is fun...if your a massocist. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm1.gif But I too recomment ASM. But if you'd like to go to web way, by all means...java. http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm13.gif http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm7.gif

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