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kato2274
February 19th, 2003, 08:31 AM
I came into just a bit of extra money recently and it's time to upgrade the video card. I currently have a radeon 64MB DDR VIVO card.

I don't want to give up the Video in feature, because I anticipate using it quite a bit once the baby arrives, and my camera and VCRS are not S-Video compliant, so that rules out the NVIDIA cards I've seen.

I'm seriously looking at this http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=Atlantis+VIVO
ATI OEM RADEON 9000 ATLANTIS 64MB DDR TV VIVO NO DVI AGP 250/200 BULK

for the minimal amount of gaming I do this should be a pretty big upgrade for me and the picture shows both composite and S-video inputs/outputs so I wouldn't loose my capture ability.

what concerns me is the "powered by ATI" how do these third party cards work when it comes to driver updates. Is it like NVIDIA where the Detonator reference drivers will work with anything that has an NVIDIA GPU? Or are the drivers company specific? I don't want to get this than find I can't use the latest catalyst drivers from ATI and have this company stop supplying drivers. anyone have any experience with the "powered by ATI" cards yet.
NooNoo
February 19th, 2003, 09:01 AM
The powered by drivers are the reference drivers. I have a "powered by" ATI - a hercules 7500 aiw... it can use the original drivers and comes with an ATI disk, not an oem disk.

I cant look up your particular card.... dumps me at a search page saying not found. Likelihood is, if it comes with an ATI install cd, you can use the ATI drivers.
kato2274
February 19th, 2003, 09:05 AM
Noo,

Updated link with one that works. . . . . sorry bout that. I figured you'd know though.
NooNoo
February 19th, 2003, 09:11 AM
heh, now the link is dead completely :p :p
NooNoo
February 19th, 2003, 09:16 AM
http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-242-02.JPG http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-242-01.JPG

I have never heard of sapphire, but they are supplying their own CD... There is a good chance that they may be using the straight ATI drivers and you will get the ATI dvd playing software with it. But I don't actually know.
kato2274
February 19th, 2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by NooNoo
heh, now the link is dead completely :p :p
I think newegg is having some issues. it was working, then not, then working, then not. seems to be working now, but I'm sure it'll crap out.

as long as I can upgrade to the newest catalyst drivers when they come out, I don't really care. I've never heard of sapphire either which makes me leary, but for $78 american it's one hell of a deal. I'll probably get it. thanks
NooNoo
February 19th, 2003, 09:23 AM
Here you go, sapphire - you could email them and ask (http://www.sapphiretech.com/downloads/downloads.asp)

The downloads show the powered by drivers.
goinpostal
February 19th, 2003, 10:01 AM
Keep in mind for gaming that is the 9000 chipset not 9000 pro but being ATI should not effect VIVO quality

Just my 2Cents
kato2274
February 19th, 2003, 10:15 AM
that should still be a pretty big jump from the base radeon (7200) I have now though right?
DocPC
February 19th, 2003, 10:16 AM
We use Sapphire cards in a lot of builds. No problems and they use the "powered by" Catalyst drivers without a hitch.
goinpostal
February 19th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Definitely a jump for the better oh and i forgot to mention, I have a 7500 Mobolity in my sony laptop (powered by) and Cat drivers work well. I actually looked at a Saphire 9000Pro 128MB but decided in the retail ATI 9000pro card for warr reasons.

:D :D :D