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Ronin
May 2nd, 2003, 03:05 PM
I downloaded the updated version of MSN Messenger, even though I have Windows Messenger, and I can't get the program to totally exit. Even though there's no icon located by the clock, I always find msmsgs.exe running in the background in the task manager. Is there some way to toally exit this program without uninstalling it?
PeLiGrOsO
May 2nd, 2003, 03:30 PM
what os are you running ?
Ya_know
May 2nd, 2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by PeLiGrOsO
what os are you running ?
Well, he did post in the XP forum...
DocPC
May 2nd, 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Ya_know
Well, he did post in the XP forum...

**snicker**
Ya_know
May 2nd, 2003, 03:38 PM
If I recall, in the beginning when I installed XP Pro at home (twice) to turn off the MSN Messenger I opened it up, and somewhere in there I found the option to prevent the automatic startup of the app. I can't for the life of me recall where it was; if you poke around I am sure you will find it within the app. Once you turn off that option, you shouldn’t see it again.

Someone else here will have a better explanation I am sure.
Ronin
May 2nd, 2003, 03:58 PM
Open MSN Messenger, Tools, Options, Preferrences, and there's the spot where you can instruct Messenger not to start with Windows. However, I already know about this option, have Messenger set to NOt start with Windows, but the bugger still boots with Windows; and it's active from moment 1.

What's the deal? Is MSN trying to show users that we're forced to allow this nonsense to happen? I like using MSN/Windows Messenger, but I don't like applications forced upon me.

Hmmm....I think I heard someone say Linux....
Ya_know
May 2nd, 2003, 04:04 PM
Try a search on the open forums for anything with MSN Messenger. I know there were a few threads on this very topic many months ago...
Ronin
May 2nd, 2003, 04:09 PM
This says it all.

http://forums.betarun.net/showthread.php?tid=18
Ronin
May 2nd, 2003, 04:30 PM
This one is much better!!!!

http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/
Ronin
May 3rd, 2003, 10:54 PM
Would you believe that even after I've removed disabled, and adjusted everything recommened, I still see msmsgs.exe appearing under the Processes tab when you enter the Task Manager? What must one do to stop this? I don't like much starting up with Windows, and I don't like software that can't be controlled.
TechZ
May 4th, 2003, 03:51 AM
same here
after going to run->msconfig and disabling msmsgs.exe
and doing the preferences thing it still shows up as a process in task manager
Ronin
May 5th, 2003, 02:09 PM
There has to be a way to stop this.
NooNoo
May 5th, 2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Ronin
There has to be a way to stop this.

Yes uninstall it completely and use trillian to access it if you need to!

Here is XPAntispy (http://www.webattack.com/get/xpantispy.shtml) this kills it.
joelen
May 6th, 2003, 05:07 PM
Following ronin's 2nd link takes care of it. The service you are trying to stop is not windows messenger (the microsoft IM program), but the messenger SERVICE. It is what allows NET SEND and administrative alerts to work between workstaion and server, and between workstations.

The NET SEND has been exploited as of late, as most people with broadband now, especiialy if you leave your pc on all night... come back and have 200 messages on your desktop!

My favorite is the message telling me to go to such and such a website, pay $20 to never see these messages again! I imagine the just give you the aobve steps! (makes me want to start doing that myself! could make a fortune! :) )
Ronin
May 6th, 2003, 05:15 PM
This sounds funny, but I've followed my own suggestion and didn't achieve satisfaction. I think I'm switching over to Trillian for the mere fact that it wasn't created by Microsoft.
Duke of Rezin
May 6th, 2003, 09:16 PM
Open the Windows\INF\SYSOC.INF folder with Notepad goto the line that starts with msmsgs=blah blah blah, edit out "hide", save and close the folder. Then goto ADD/Remove Windows Components in the Control Panel and then remove Messenger. This won't actually uninstall Messenger but will make it retire and "hide" within the software. You won't be able to use it again though until you add it back in.
joelen
May 7th, 2003, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Duke of Rezin
Open the Windows\INF\SYSOC.INF folder with Notepad goto the line that starts with msmsgs=blah blah blah, edit out "hide", save and close the folder. Then goto ADD/Remove Windows Components in the Control Panel and then remove Messenger. This won't actually uninstall Messenger but will make it retire and "hide" within the software. You won't be able to use it again though until you add it back in.

This won't work in Ronin's situtation, as he has applied the updates to window messenger. Those steps only worked on the original messenger that installs with Windows XP pre sp1.
WIth the updated version, to keep the Windows Messenger PROGRAM from running, you just open the options and uncheck the box that loads it with windows.

However, this does not even address the issue that Ronin has, as he is trying to stop "msmsgs.exe" which is the Messenger PROCESS. This is done through Services in Computer Management.

Many people get the 2 confused- the messenger service and the Windows Messenger instant messenging program are not the same thing.