Ok in the market for a new Colour Inkjet, but I've learnt my lesson, stuff image quality(they all seem to do good enough for me!) - I want cheap to run !!
So thought ladies & gentlemen please ....
Most I want to spend is £200 ($275) or thereabouts, on going costs are definately a 'must know' so I'd be obliged to know the cost of 'standard' refills for whatever model .... I appreciate I can refill cartridges (but I'm not gonna !) & that I can buy 'recycled' cartridges and 'no-name' substitutes, but I don't want any of those thank you! Just 'real' cartridge prices please....
A decent paper feed mechanism would be good too, none of that gravity fed 'ollocks, a proper tray please....;)
Its replacing an HP deskjet 710c.
kato2274
May 15th, 2003, 08:56 AM
that's a pretty hefty budget confus-ed!
if you are going to print a lot of photos I've heard very good things about the epson printers in relation to qaulity and archivability of printed pics.
Cannon tends to be the best value lately in terms of consumable costs.
Lexmark = bad. . . . quality is average . . . . consumable cost high.
I'm an HP man myself. . . . . that may be because we use HPs at work and I get cartridges for free. :D
but I've got a photosmart 1000 printer and am pretty happy with it. I've heard very good things about the print quality of the 5500 and 7500 printers.
I know I didn't reccomend a specific printer :( but I hope there is some useful info here
confus-ed
May 15th, 2003, 09:13 AM
Thanks Kato, no offence but I want specific rather than general ;)
Thinking about it, that is a very 'reasonable' budget !:D , but I'm using a colour cartridge every month, and black every other, so I'll spend that in 6 months easy on consumables ...
I'll also entertain suggestions for an 'all in one' (printer/fax/copier) as the copier is on its last legs too (I never said that first time, apologies..) .... BUT in that instance 'consumable' costs become ever more important, It would be a bonus if I can do colour 'one-touch' copying too, a very nice bonus ! :)
....I'm a cantankerous old sod, so forgive me if I'm a pain !...
Atodini
May 15th, 2003, 09:46 AM
Hi Confus-ed!
Many of our customers swear by the Canon i550,
Or had you considered a colour laser? If you hunt around Exchange & Mart, E-bay, Loot etc, QMS Magicolor 2's can be got in your budget. I've run one for the last 4-5 years and it's far cheaper than an inkjet! Toner carts last for around 10,000 images, and at £86 each (x3 + black) are only 8 times the cost of HP inkjet cartridges which struggle to do 500.
John
:D
kato2274
May 15th, 2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by confus-ed
:) ... indeed 'tons' but no consumable prices ?
....I'm a cantankerous old sod, so forgive me if I'm a pain !...
what was that line of yours?
oh yeah I'm not doing all your research for you :D
Ya_know
May 15th, 2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by kato2274
Cannon tends to be the best value lately in terms of consumable costs.
Lexmark = bad. . . . quality is average . . . . consumable cost high.
I'm an HP man myself. . . . . that may be because we use HPs at work and I get cartridges for free. :D
No you don't, the company pays for them, and you steal them. Call the kettle black my friend...:D
confus-ed
May 15th, 2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by kato2274
what was that line of yours?
oh yeah I'm not doing all your research for you :D
http://www.jp3d.net/yahoo/images/new/23.gif Ok you got me there ! :D , but the guy I said that to was on his first post .... I figured you all owe me some 'googling', plus which no doubt this thread'll come in useful for someone else ... his query was pretty specialised to say the least (I burnt out two of my remaining five brain cells on that answer!)... but if you wanna play hardball - I'll remember ! :D
NooNoo
May 15th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Take a look at the Xerox M series. Individual colour cartridges and a nice quality.
kato2274
May 15th, 2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Ya_know
No you don't, the company pays for them, and you steal them. Call the kettle black my friend...:D
no I don't steal them . . . my boss tells me to take them if I need them . . . if that means he steals them . . . . . .
Ya_know
May 15th, 2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by kato2274
no I don't steal them . . . my boss tells me to take them if I need them . . . if that means he steals them . . . . . .
Originally posted by Ya_know
Shame Shame...
http://www.jonspage.co.uk/ubb/graemlins/shame.gif
...'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'....
Now I too have done some 'moralising', so stop 'hijacking' my thread please :p ... I want to know about cheap to run Inkjets .... remember !?!?:eek2:
Ya_know
May 15th, 2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Ya_know
Shame Shame...
http://www.jonspage.co.uk/ubb/graemlins/shame.gif
Shame Shame...
http://www.jonspage.co.uk/ubb/graemlins/shame.gif
:rolleyes:
kato2274
May 15th, 2003, 10:35 AM
back on topic.
found this bit about the canon 850i
Heavier-duty inkjet. Although the Canon i850 costs more initially than the HP above, ink costs are a bit lower, so if your printer will see heavier use, you'll eventually save money over the HP. And although Canon includes the word "Photo" in its name, the Canon is equally proficient with text pages, quietly spitting out documents at a zippy 7.7 pages per minute, making it the fastest inkjet PC World has tested to date. Cost of consumables is lower because the i850 uses individual ink-color cartridges; operating costs are about 2 cents per text page/11 cents per color page.
11 cents a page for color is pretty sweet as is 2 cents for text.
I'm partial to Canon, as they offer separate cartridges for each color. In addition, their cartridges don't incorporate the print head, so you're not paying for a new head every time you replace the cartridge.
jaimicook
May 16th, 2003, 12:22 PM
Cannon is lowest cost per page. Epson is next. They both have very good quality.
Jim Cook
Woody01
May 17th, 2003, 09:43 PM
Check out PCWorld.com. It discusses consumables. http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,109123,pg,1,00.asp
tobevers
May 28th, 2003, 04:45 PM
I realize you don't want general info, but I'm gonna give you some anyways, as I still think it may help the decision-making process. We work on a lot of printers here at the shop, so I've got a lot of "general knowledge".
HP, in my book, is the best. HP's hook is consumables. They'll sell you a high-quality printer for very little money and then nail you to the wall with ink pricing. Color cartridges on all modern hp photo-quality printers will average from $25-$35 US. Black cartridges are $20-$30 US. You can purchase high-capacity color cartridges for around $65-$80. These cartridges are definitely a bargain as they have over twice the capacity of a normal color cartridge and are always cheaper than buying two color cartridges together, even when buying in value-packs (two individual color cartridges in one pack). They are easy to get parts for and HP will sell replacement parts to anyone, not just dealers.
As a tech, I seriously dislike Epson. Yes, they have some of the best photo-quality output, but are a monster to work on. You cannot remove the cartridges to work on the cartridge cradles. Once the cartridges are removed, they must be replaced with new, you cannot put an old one back in. The price for new cartridges is comparable to that of HP. Their warranties are shady and they don't like to sell to non-dealers. We became dealers to make our service dept. happy.
I don't know much about Cannon printers. To be perfectly honest with you, I've never worked on a cannon. Nor do I see many of them around. I don't know if this is because of bad quality, high price, or whatnot. But, it does make me think that if you had a problem with one, it would be hard to find a nearby service center to work on it.
Color laser printers are great machines. You will lose some of your photo-quality, however. As laser printers go, they are much cheaper to operate, but you will pay much more for the printer itself. We have a Sharp AR-C650 copier hooked to a computer and it does an incredible job. It has 3-individual toner compartments for color and it runs you about $79 US to fill a compartment, which also is a very good price. HP makes a decent color laser printer for about $500 but, like I said, the photo-quality is nowhere near the results from an inkjet.
dirkpitt
June 24th, 2003, 08:04 AM
I really dislike CAnon, i got one in office and its having poor quality prints and having only less than 1 and a half years old with 1 servicing job.
HP I don't like that much too, but it has a good marketing campaign, and probably a little decent quality. But their ink prices are outrageous.
I also read from somewhere that manufacturers for HP and Canon are the same, you'll know that when you look at the internals. and that's why they also have a cheaper unit price.
Epson, is a long time printer expert, they have a little higher unit price, but much lower ink pricing. High quality outputs with some higher model guarantees of print out life exceeding 20 years.
Today, I was checking out Canon BJC 5100 reviews, and almost all had a bad experience,
Tried looking for reviews on Epson 980N, can't find any reviews of either bad or good, which leads me to beleive customers have no complaints. And I'm planning to buy this for a very cheap price, heeheeheee $63.79! sweet :)
I have one Epson Photo 750, and loves it without any complaints and incompatibilities whatsoever. I had it since 1998 or 99
jaimicook
June 24th, 2003, 10:42 AM
A point not mentioned is that HP 4 series laser printers are frequently available at used computer supplers. These are a bit heavy and bulky, but they are built like a tank and last many years. Reconditioned cartridges are readily available for less than $50.00. This is a very inexpensive way to get hi quality black and white copy. Make sure the memory is maxed out if you do much graphics, though.
Jim Cook
Duke of Rezin
July 2nd, 2003, 09:20 PM
I bought an HP 6110 ($300 USd) several months ago after searching through local stores for a particular Epson model. The only drawback to this multifunction (printer/scanner/copier/fax) has been the tri-color cartridge as I was looking for individual color cartridges. However months and many picture prints later, I still am only half-way through the cartridge. All the functions work great and are easy to use and can be run w/o the pc being on. The 3 color is $35, the black is $19, the 2 color photo is $25 retail. While I haven't done an exact cost-per-page analysis, so far the cartridge usage has been very economical.:thumbs: :thumbs:
ClickHere2Surf.com
July 24th, 2003, 01:14 AM
Canon and epson may have low ink cost, but you have to consider the built in print head needs replacing and costs over $100 and it doesnt last very long.
HP may have high ink cost, but they are the easiest to refill and that brings the cost down close to nothing.
Get an HP deskjet 5550 and ink refills, you'll have perfect photo quality and much less than 1 cent ink cost per page.
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