Windows 98 to SE

[petermaud]

Hi,

I have Windows 98 on my computer with a few corrupted files. I've gotten a Windows 98 SE disc, but when I try to instal it I get a message that my setup is incompatible with SE.

Is there some way to install SE over 98?

[MobilePCPhysician]

Hi,

I have Windows 98 on my computer with a few corrupted files. I've gotten a Windows 98 SE disc, but when I try to instal it I get a message that my setup is incompatible with SE.

Is there some way to install SE over 98?Is this Se disk a full install or upgrade disk? Have you tried repairing/ replacing the corrupted files with System File Checker? If the disk is an upgrade disk, make sure no antivirus programs are running. I would also stop all other programs. If it still won't install, use a floppy boot disk and install over the top in dos.

[petermaud]

It's a full SE install disc. I've tried repairing files, but with little success.

When I try to install it the settup doesn't allow anything but to abort the process.

I'm fairly familiar with the requirements of antivirus software, so that wouldn't be a problem.

I'm a little hesitant about by-passing and installing over the present arrangement.

Are there any OS problems that are likely to arise?

[MobilePCPhysician]

You have a full install disk. You cannot upgrade from that disk. Back up your data, reformat the drive, install Win98se, install your programs, install your data.

[petermaud]

Well that answers it.

Thanks for your help

Peter

[petermaud]

Hmmm,

I've been checking some of the readme files on the disc. I've come to the conclusion it may be an upgrade disc rather than a full install as I previously mentioned.

Is there some way of determining whether it's a full install or an upgrade?

[MobilePCPhysician]

If it's a authentic Microsoft disk, it will say whether it is an upgrade or full install right on the front. It will also specify on the packaging.

[petermaud]

It's an authentic microsoft disc all right, but it's a friend's backup copy, and I have no way of contacting him at present.

[tyamada]

Hi,

I have Windows 98 on my computer with a few corrupted files. I've gotten a Windows 98 SE disc, but when I try to instal it I get a message that my setup is incompatible with SE.

Is there some way to install SE over 98?

When you try to install from a dos boot, do you get a message that says you already have an operating system installed? If so you have a full OEM verison of Windows 98SE. If it is an upgrade disk you have to be in
Windows to install.

The best way to install Windows 98SE is to copy the win98 sub-directory from the CD to your hard drivem and run setup from there.

If all else fails you should try to recover your registry or clean it up and then try to install.

[TripleRLtd]

It's an authentic microsoft disc all right, but it's a friend's backup copy, and I have no way of contacting him at present.Hmmm, should we be supporting this???http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif (http://forums.windrivers.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies#)

[Stalemate]

Not anymore, I don't think.

Authentic copy?

[MobilePCPhysician]

It's a genuine, actual, 100%, complete, pure, total, absolute, pure and simple, digitally remastered, copy of the original. http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Ya_know]

Oh, come on...who here doesn't, just a little bit... :devil:

Besides, it isn't our place to judge this guys intentions. It is up to a moderator. So if you have ideas, help out, otherwise, "let it be...let it be...Oh, let it be...let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be....! ! !"

[TripleRLtd]

Oh, come on...who here doesn't, just a little bit... :devil:

Besides, it isn't our place to judge this guys intentions. It is up to a moderator. So if you have ideas, help out, otherwise, "let it be...let it be...Oh, let it be...let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be....! ! !""...And when the broken hearted people, living in the world agree: There will be an answer..."
Well, here is mine: It is one thing to do this "elsewhere", and another thing entirely to support this on a public forum owned by an Internet Media company.

Part deus: Let's get the original 98 install running right again. We CAN do that, right????

[bcyee]

Aside from any ethical issues, Windows 98SE would be better than the Windows 98. In order to use a full install disk to "upgrade" the win.com in the windows subdirectory, and any other instance of win.com on the drive, must be renamed before installing the Win98SE CD. Good Luck.

[MobilePCPhysician]

When you try to install from a dos boot, do you get a message that says you already have an operating system installed? If so you have a full OEM verison of Windows 98SE. If it is an upgrade disk you have to be in Windows to install. .
We do re-installs all the time from a dos prompt, with an upgrade disk. You can use an upgrade disk to do a full install, as long as you have media that proves a previous Windows operating system.

[Scooter]

Here is the solution to your problems. I know that Microsoft will not allow you to install an OEM version (or "full" non upgrade version) of Windows on top of another copy, but there IS a way to do it.

1) I recommned that you copy the entire contents of D:\WIN98\*.* to a folder called C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS on your hard disk. You can boot directly from the CD to do this, and boot with CD Support

Change Directory (CD) to the C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS folder (if you need to make any of these use the MD command with one folder at a time)

once your prompt reads this: C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS> you type in this command: COPY D:\WIN98\*.* where "D" is your CD ROM Drive Letter.

2) The next step is to rename the file WIN.COM in the C:\WINDOWS folder. I know this sounds crazy, but the SETUP looks for WIN.COM and if it finds it, gives you that error message that it is not compatible with your setup.

You can either delete WIN.COM or rename it, here are the commands. Change Directory to C:\WINDOWS

C:\>CD WINDOWS

then use this command to delete:

C:\WINDOWS>DEL WIN.COM

or this command to RENAME (it really doesn't matter but to play it safe, rename)

C:\WINDOWS>REN WIN.COM WIN.BAK



3) Now you can install. Change directory to C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS so that your prompt looks like this: C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS>

then type this command:

C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\SETUP /ie /im /is /iv /nr

That will start setup without a registry check or scandisk or memory check and bypass all that junk....

Now just install as normal...


Works like a charm.

--Scooter

[NooNoo]

The media for 98se matters not. The question is does he have a licence for 98se, because you know that 98 cd key wont work on a 98se install.

Enought advice, let it be, and let the thread starter answer.

[Scooter]

The media for 98se matters not. The question is does he have a licence for 98se, because you know that 98 cd key wont work on a 98se install.

Enought advice, let it be, and let the thread starter answer.


All hail the Microsoft Police.

[TripleRLtd]

All hail the Microsoft Police.Alright then...being the respectful and honest entrepreneur that you seem to be: What would YOU recommend???http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/moon.gif

[Scooter]

Alright then...being the respectful and honest entrepreneur that you seem to be: What would YOU recommend???http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/moon.gif

Well, first I would suggest that you put your pants back on after mooning me. Your rear end seems to be yellow, I'd go to a doctor for that.

As for the Windows 98/SE issue, personally,

I would back up all the data, repartition/reformat the hard disk and either do a restore or fresh install with the original Installation CD.

[petermaud]

For those who have followed this thread, with good advice, and others, I’d like to advise that the installation is done.

It was a little tricky, or it was for me, who isn’t especially proficient when it comes to playing around with the intricacies of Bill’s inner mind.

After a few attempts I had to boot off my W98 startup disc, start with CdRom support, change the file names of those recommended, switch to E: and run setup. There weren’t really any problems after that. (well a few, but so be it)

The main improvement is that my Word spellchecker now functions correctly, and I have a better Media player (the 9 series that won’t run on Windows 98)

Those who expressed doubts about my moral, or at least ethical integrity may sleep peacefully. I sensed a mood of disquiet arising amongst the crowd. This was “not,” I emphasise, an illegal enterprise. My problem was that, having dished out good bucks for a disc that was supposed to work, I wasn’t about to be broken by a mere Windows obstacle.

Thanks again for all your suggestions and good wishes,

Peter

[NooNoo]

Glad it's sorted Peter.