How Do I add CDROM in Safe Mode?

[Orangeman]

Hey Gang,

I used to know of a way to add CDROM capability in SAFE MODE but I've forgotten. Does anybody remember? I'm talking about the commands after the A: prompt wiht a boot disk.

Thanks,
Orangman:D

[freddy]

Hey Gang,

I used to know of a way to add CDROM capability in SAFE MODE but I've forgotten. Does anybody remember? I'm talking about the commands after the A: prompt wiht a boot disk.

Thanks,
Orangman:D

are u bootin from floppy ? ,,,go to www.bootdisk.com (http://www.bootdisk.com) and d/l a universal boot disk with cd rom support , have a quick look at the auto / config ,,,or.

if u have amachine ther on fat 32 , boot from 98 cd , and at a: prompt copy auto / config over to c: , somewhere safe and disect them.

next u will be wanting USB pen support????



freddy

[Orangeman]

Hi Freddy,

I went to the website you specified to download CDindos and they wanted a $4.00 donation. I would be happy to give them $4.00 except the only way I could give them $4.00 was through Paypal, personal check or money order. I don't use Paypal because of security problems and a money order or personal check isn't going to help me today. They didn't have a place for credit cards.

I then went into my bios and switched 1st boot device to CDROM. When I did this I got to an a: prompt. I entered

copy auto / config

and got this error:

invalid switch -/

so I entered copy auto \ config

and I got this error:

0 files found

Thanks for the help, but do you have any other suggestions?

....Oh, yes, I also clicked F8 to enter SAFE MODE after I booted from the CDROM. The SAFE MODE prompt didn't work. Also, the A: prompt didn't recognize my C drive.

Thanks,
Orangeman

[freddy]

Hi Freddy,

I went to the website you specified to download CDindos and they wanted a $4.00 donation. I would be happy to give them $4.00 except the only way I could give them $4.00 was through Paypal, personal check or money order. I don't use Paypal because of security problems and a money order or personal check isn't going to help me today. They didn't have a place for credit cards.

I then went into my bios and switched 1st boot device to CDROM. When I did this I got to an a: prompt. I entered

copy auto / config

and got this error:

invalid switch -/

so I entered copy auto \ config

and I got this error:

0 files found

Thanks for the help, but do you have any other suggestions?

....Oh, yes, I also clicked F8 to enter SAFE MODE after I booted from the CDROM. The SAFE MODE prompt didn't work. Also, the A: prompt didn't recognize my C drive.

Thanks,
Orangeman

the two files to alter /amend are autoexec.bat and config.sys

[NooNoo]

Orange you want to add dos cdrom support, safe mode can use it then http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Autoexec.htm
http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Configsys.htm

[Orangeman]

Orange you want to add dos cdrom support, safe mode can use it then http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Autoexec.htm
http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Configsys.htm

Thanks Noo,

I just added them to my favorite places.

Orangeman:D

[Orangeman]

Thanks Noo,

I just added them to my favorite places.

Orangeman:D

Well, so far I've added the following changes to config.sys and autoexec.bat"

auto:

LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /E:MSCD0001

config

LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /E:MSCD0001

and I'm still not about to able to access my cdrom in safe mode.

Any suggestions???

Orangeman

[MobilePCPhysician]

Orange Dude,
PM me with an email address and I will attach the files you need. You can run these and they will add the needed lines to the autoexec.bat and config.sys files.

Steve

[riddellcomp]

Orange Dude,
PM me with an email address and I will attach the files you need. You can run these and they will add the needed lines to the autoexec.bat and config.sys files.

Steve
OR...................You could leave the conversation on the board so others can learn how to do it too.
As a long time poster to these forums just told me recently PM's are for exactly that Private messages.
I would like to learn how to add cd-rom support to safe mode as well.

Thanks....

[confus-ed]

Well, so far I've added the following changes to config.sys and autoexec.bat"

auto:

LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /E:MSCD0001

config

LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /E:MSCD0001

and I'm still not about to able to access my cdrom in safe mode.

Any suggestions???

Orangeman
So Aunty Noo told you that didn't she ? So here's what Uncle Billy says

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 198687 - Installing Real Mode CD-ROM Drivers in Windows 98 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=198687)

I would respectfully say both methods are wrong ! - 98 doesn't need any realmode drivers - it wants some in flipping safe mode !!! If we add it for one - we add it for both - which isn't what we 'really' want at all ...

Just start it from a: ! - go grab yourself a bootdisk with cd rom support from one of my favourite net places Bootdisk.com (http://www.bootdisk.com/) .. do your tinkering from there - you can try & fire safemode windows by typing "c:\{whatever path it might be}\win /d:m" Here's another of Billy's missives (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/ARTICLES/Q194/8/46.asp&NoWebContent=1) (in which he gets a bit better, but why the hell a 98 recovery disk doesn't natively have the cd drivers 'there' is beyond me ..).

btw if you want to get the various lines you need in autoexec.bat, config,sys OR dosstart.bat (that's how you get cd drives available in dos while running windows ;)) just crack open one of the boot images & have a look ! :)

& oh edit ...

Since its completely unclear, & I smell much confus-ed-ness !, just what goes where (orange you have the entries wrong fella !) - here's yet another link with the entries all on one page How to Setup CD-ROM Drives under DOS (http://www.techadvice.com/tech/C/CDROM_DOSSU.htm)

Example entries might be
Autoexec.bat

C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:Orangeman /V

Config.sys

DEVICE=C:\CDROM\IDE-CD.SYS /D:Orangeman

read the link ;)

[Orangeman]

read the link ;)

"Error, Website not responding"

I thought this would be a relatively easy question. I'm surprised it has taken so long to resolve it.

I'll try the link in the morning,

Thanks,
Orangman :thumbs:

[Orangeman]

"Error, Website not responding"

I thought this would be a relatively easy question. I'm surprised it has taken so long to resolve it.

I'll try the link in the morning,

Thanks,
Orangman :thumbs:

Hi Everyone,

Just so I'm not keeping everyone in suspense I tried the solution Confus-ed suggested.

This is what I added to Autoexec.bat:

C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE E:MSCD0001/V

and to Config.sys:

DEVICE=C:\CDROM\IDE-CD.SYS /E:MSCD0001

E and F are the drive letters of my CDROM and CDRW.

Still the same, no cd drivers in Safe Mode...:confused:

[freddy]

Hi Everyone,

Just so I'm not keeping everyone in suspense I tried the solution Confus-ed suggested.

This is what I added to Autoexec.bat:

C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE E:MSCD0001/V

and to Config.sys:

DEVICE=C:\CDROM\IDE-CD.SYS /E:MSCD0001

E and F are the drive letters of my CDROM and CDRW.

Still the same, no cd drivers in Safe Mode...:confused:


ok huston we have a problem?


make a directory called "fred"

boot from your windows 98 cd

dont load windows , but when it asks if u want cd rom support say yes,

now then , does it load your cd-roms ?

yes?

from an a prompt , copy autoexec.bat c: fred ,,,also do the same with config.sys,

restart windows normally , go into explorer , change dir to "fred" ,,,,and open the files

config will be hidden (view hidden files + show extensions) ,,,open it with notepad , and do a printout.

autoexec.bat , right click and select edit ,,,,,and print.


read and digest ,,,there are only a couple of lines u need ,,,,,,when u have cracked it ,,,del the dir.


alan

[Platypus]

I tried the solution Confus-ed suggested.

This is what I added to Autoexec.bat:

C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE E:MSCD0001/V

and to Config.sys:

DEVICE=C:\CDROM\IDE-CD.SYS /E:MSCD0001

E and F are the drive letters of my CDROM and CDRW.

Still the same, no cd drivers in Safe Mode...:confused:

Not quite, Orangeman.

Confus-ed specified /D:..... you've used /E:....

Try

C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V

and

DEVICE=C:\CDROM\IDE-CD.SYS /D:MSCD001

If that driver is right for your CD-ROM I think you'll find it'll work.

[MobilePCPhysician]

OR...................You could leave the conversation on the board so others can learn how to do it too.
As a long time poster to these forums just told me recently PM's are for exactly that Private messages.
I would like to learn how to add cd-rom support to safe mode as well.

Thanks....I zipped the files from a Samsung CD/DVD-ROM Device Driver for E-IDE
P/N : BG46-30001J Ver:M2.31

This works on 95% of the cd roms made. This creates a folder called Samsung. Deposits the mscdex file there. Adds the necessary lines to the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files.

If you would like, I would be happy to email them to you also. I did not mean to offend anyone by telling him to pm me. Some people don't want their email address out on the board.

[Orangeman]

Hi Platypus,

This time I added those lines to autoexec.bat and config.sys exactly as written and got the following error message:

C:\>C:\windows\command\Mmscdex.exe\D:MSCD001 /V
Device Driver not found 'MSCD001'
No Valid CDROM device drivers selected.

How do I find the right device drivers? Could they be OakROM? or what?

Thanks,
Orangeman

[Orangeman]

Okay,

I think I understand what's going on. I have to tell Config.sys & Autoexec.bat to load the right set of drivers from my C:\Windows\Command file. But I can't figure out which one to use.
Here is a screenshot of my Windows\Command file.:http://www.members.aol.com/jpb701/command

And here's my EBD file:

http://www.members.aol.com/jpb701/ebd

[confus-ed]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh ! .... FFS !

'Bang' goes Sunday morning ... or in my case not (as I'm now looking for a new 'her indoors') ...

(emotional post pad ! :D)

[confus-ed]

Calm now ... or as calm as I get :D

First & most important !!!!!

Windows 98 does NOT need realmode drivers !!!! & why the f . you want to give it some is beyond me ...
(mmmm maybe not so calm ?)

My prefer-ed method is just using a boot disk with cd rom support ! :rolleyes: (why aren't there more 'rude' icons here ?) .. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/banghead.gif

If you insist on giving it some .. then 'exactly' here's how ... you need a pre done 98 startup disk handy ...

Copy a:\oakcdrom.sys & a:\btcdrom.sys to the root of c (or in a directory if you prefer ... but you can work out the potential paths) - note for confus-ed folks ... these two files pretty much 'run' any cd - but not every single one - you may need a 'special one' which can be found on your cd's original install disk.

Copy himem.sys to root of c:\ (or in a directory -same 'path warning')

Next add to autoexec.bat the entry

lh c:\rmcd\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001

Another 'ed note .. lh means loadhigh it means you'l have more DOS session memory but its not 'really' needed here. MSCD001 can be 'any old thing you like' as long as its the same thing in config.sys ..

Next add to config.sys
device=c:himem.sys /testmem: off (no space! but it comes out 'wrong' because there's a ':' & the bbs software here thinks I want a smiley !)
(don't put it in twice, its quite often already there)
device=c:\oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 (again adjust for any paths)
device=c:\btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 (as above)

(we dunno which 'driver' is gonna go)

& I'll cut & paste the 'excepts' from the kb ..
The following items are known issues with the real-mode CD-ROM drivers on the Windows 98 Startup disk:
CD-ROM drives that are connected to sound cards may not work properly.
Early proprietary CD-ROM drives (for example, Mitsumi, Panasonic, and Sony) may not work with the drivers on the Startup disk. Some older IDE controllers also may not work.
& add ... I chopped out all the scsi references - so if you have one of them ... tough ! :D


(all this is just edit-ed highlights of what I already told you ;) -check everything ! its DOS, one iddy biddy mistake & it don't work ..)