America Bashing

[Linthade]

Its all the rage isn't it? Isn't it just cool to be against the big nasty bully?

Lets ponder this "bully" title for a moment. If you took the military force that we can foot today and put it into the hands of a true bully (S. Hussein for example) there would be no Saudi Arabia, no Kuwait, no Israel, no Egypt. It would all be IRAQ and that would be just for starters. Is there any doubt he would steamroll and conquer all his neighbors?

If we truly are bullies, then lets get bullying. I want gas for $.05 a gallon. So, lets OWN Kuwait and offer Saudi the chance to just export to us for free. After that, we'll contemplate not glassing Jordan and Syria for new parking lots for our tanker trucks.

I want a new vacation island. Lets roll over this little island 60 miles off of Florida called Cuba and start remodelling. I always did want a free cigar.

I want to ski in France. Lets plow our way through Paris and annex the place. Oh wait, we did that already and decided to give it back. (oops)

Now, lets talk about the honorific of "Meddlers". We are considered nosy and pushy and bossy and well, just flat out controlling. Really? Well, lets see.

I think American kids should be able to go to college for free. Well, lets start by removing ALL of our financial aid from the insanely ungrateful countries we send it to. I'm thinking the billions we would save would certainly cover the expenses.

Lets get isolationist. Lets close our borders to Imports and manufacture our own products for our own consumption. It may hurt us in the short haul while we remodel our economy & reconfigure our manufacturing, but we'll have the distinct enjoyment of watching the economies of China, Japan and Taiwan crumple into ruin. Outsource this.

The moral of the story? If you hate living here, MOVE. Get the **** out. I'll buy your one way ticket for you. If we see you at our borders again, you'll be shot. If you think we're "bullies", thank whatever God you pray to that we haven't just OWNED your sad little country like we truly could. If you think we're "meddlers", send back all the foreign aid you're enjoying and do it on your own.

In closing, maybe I should apologize about this post, but ya know what, SKIP that. I have pride in my country, in the restraint that we DO show, in the good that we DO spread. I actually believe in our leaders, Republican or Democrat alike. I am proud to live here, to pledge my allegiance to one hell of a country and live "under God", at any cost.

*lin*

[gazzak]

Chill.

[Diver01]

*Standing Ovation*

Bravo!!! Bravo!!

and the crowd goes wild!!!!

[MobilePCPhysician]

"Ladies and Gentlemen, please rise and remove your hats to the playing of our National Anthem",,,,,,,,,,,

Seriously, good points. Especially the France dig.http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/sagrin.gif

[Radical Dreamer]

Wow, I thought there were no intelligent people left on earth. I have been proven wrong.....well said

[Tacklebox]

Well said. :thumbs:

[Ya_know]

Your pride is an inspiration! :thumbs2:

I applaud you too!!!

[meatwad]

I have to stand up now and bring something very important to your attention. Switch to decaf. :D

Other than that? Good show. :thumbs:

[freddy]

Your pride is an inspiration! :thumbs2:

I applaud you too!!!

but you don,t know what happens outside of your thunderdome ,,,you don,t read newspapers or watch television.

you do not care or worry what happens in the world (your words) ...or even on local television (your words)


just sit in your thunderdome ,,,,,quietly ,,,and let the world continue..

[Ya_know]

but you don,t know what happens outside of your thunderdome ,,,you don,t read newspapers or watch television.

you do not care or worry what happens in the world (your words) ...or even on local television (your words)


just sit in your thunderdome ,,,,,quietly ,,,and let the world continue..

This is an American Pride thread. Get the #uck out!... :p

As far as what I said...I am up on current events, I am just usually as much as a week behind unless I find out about it here. I have young children at home, so until they get to bed I am their caregiver and slave. I don't have time to take a piss, let alone watch the news. Plus, with all the dead bodies being shown, and one kid at 4, my wife doesn't want us watching the news until late anyway. By then I've passed out.

[Cobra X]

You know what? I used to get really pissed off over America bashing.

But I don't anymore.

Fact is, we live in a screwed up country, on a screwed up planet, run by screwed up people.

But don't try to tell me that your government is any better.

But I don't get worked up over someone saying America sucks anymore. Not worth it.

[Antimatter]

Yes why not just ignore the rest of the world and have them ignore you.
I would appreciate it and clap... I would even sing your national anthem in appreciation...
of course it would mean all American companies and interests pulling their fingers out of the little pies they have their fingers stuck in...god knows how many.
withdraw your fleets to your harbours and disband your armies.
Let the rest of the world have a few wars and then come in to mop up the remains...how does that sound?
No chance of any of it happening...multinational corporations are truly multinational these days...they hire their own armies and live in the country that gives them the best deals...they'll laugh at your nationalism and then take money from your wallet. All praise the Euro!!!

[Lowland]

and what is sad is that the friends end up falling out

[freddy]

This is an American Pride thread. Get the #uck out!... :p

As far as what I said...I am up on current events, I am just usually as much as a week behind unless I find out about it here. I have young children at home, so until they get to bed I am their caregiver and slave. I don't have time to take a piss, let alone watch the news. Plus, with all the dead bodies being shown, and one kid at 4, my wife doesn't want us watching the news until late anyway. By then I've passed out.
then why stick your gob into a post yesterday about tony blair and gidaffi ,,,,and then said
"Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???


but stuck your gob in anyway


you stay the "uck out of what u know nothing about ,,,,,and maybe the rest of the world will stay out of your buissness,


you are a hypicritical biggot


go back to your thunderdome.

[Radical Dreamer]

you are a hypicritical biggot


go back to your thunderdome.


And you are illiterate

[paraflyer]

Well, I for one like this post....found it briefly refreshing.

I have to say, though, what's all this "thunderdome" nonsense? Last I knew, the rules were "Two walk in, one walks out."

What are you implying?

[freddy]

And you are illiterate

stuff the illitracy ,,the point i am making is valid .


this site is made up of people from around the world,

3 posts today

the one above (usa)

one regarding a bomb on fre french railways (france)

my post about gadaffi / blair (UK)

what we (i) don,t want/need is some _______ commenting "Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???"

and then kickin off when somebody , joins in a conversation that includes toipics related to the USA.

This is an American Pride thread. Get the #uck out!...


from someone who has just stuck his nose into a european problem , being discussed.

freddy

[Cleetus]

From Afghanistan
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:43 AM
Story of the week;

So we are up in the mountains at about 0100 hrs looking for a bad guy
that we thought was in the area. Here are ten of us, pitch black,
crystal clear night, about 25 degrees. We know there are bad guys in
the area, a few shots have been fired but no big deal. We decide that
we need air cover and the only thing in the area is a solo B-1 bomber.
He flies around at about 20,000 feet and tells us there is nothing in
the area. He then asks if we would like a low-level show of force.

Stupid question. Of course we tell him yes.

The controller who is attached to the team then is heard talking to the
pilot. Pilot asks if we want it subsonic or supersonic.

Very stupid question. Pilot advises he is twenty miles out and stand
by. The controller gets us all sitting down in a line and points out
the proper location.

You have to picture this. Pitch black, ten killers sitting down, dead
quiet and overlooking this about 30-mile-long valley.

All of a sudden, way out (below our level) you see a set of four 200'
white flames coming at us. The controller says, "Ah-- guys-- you might
want to plug your ears". Faster than you can think, a B-1, supersonic,
1000' over our heads, blasts the sound barrier and it feels like God
just hit you in the head with a hammer! He then stands it straight up
with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Hearing damage: For certain

Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless!

[Antimatter]

The friendly guys you were shooting at: relieved

[gazzak]

stuff the illitracy ,,the point i am making is valid .


this site is made up of people from around the world,

3 posts today

the one above (usa)

one regarding a bomb on fre french railways (france)

my post about gadaffi / blair (UK)

what we (i) don,t want/need is some _______ commenting "Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???"

and then kickin off when somebody , joins in a conversation that includes toipics related to the USA.

This is an American Pride thread. Get the #uck out!...


from someone who has just stuck his nose into a european problem , being discussed.

freddy

Freddy, look back at ya_knows post and you'll see a little :p after the get the #uck out, I think he was just having a laugh!

[techs]

Way too much to spend the time to refute so many falsehoods but here are a few:
1)Lets get isolationist. Lets close our borders to Imports and manufacture our own products for our own consumption.
Gee, I don't know. I kind of like driving my car on imported oil even at 1.80 a gallon. I don't think I can afford 20.00 a gallon which gas would cost if we only used our domestic supplies. I like my 100.00 dvd player. I don't think I could afford a 300.00 one that it would cost if made in the usa only for the usa market. I also like all the products made with the metals we don't have any of here. Chrome bumpers and chromium steel razor blades are kind of nice. But your idea is a great one. Though I will miss the airplanes, cars, medical devices, drugs that we can't make here without imported goods. I suggest you lead the way and sell your car, stereo and house.
2)we'll have the distinct enjoyment of watching the economies of China, Japan and Taiwan crumple into ruin.
Unfortunately they could probably survive without us since the other 94percent of the Earth contains all the needed raw materials to produce 99 percent of their goods.
3)If we truly are bullies, then lets get bullying. I want gas for $.05 a gallon. So, lets OWN Kuwait and offer Saudi the chance to just export to us for free. Now their is a valid point. Uh oh, the Saudis and Kuwaitis just nuked their oil field with Russian nukes rather than let us take it. Bye bye suv's.
4)If you hate living here, MOVE. Get the **** out. Now you are just disrepecting the thousands of Americans who have given their lives over the years to protect anyones right to try and change this country through peaceful means. But I don't think you really mean the people who "hate" living here. You just mean those who exercise their rights of free speech. The speech you don't like but are powerless to prevent(at least for now) due to a little thing called the constitution.
In years past there was a rallying cry from people like you. "My country, right or wrong". Fortunately most people realized that it should be "Our country, a work in progress that I must contibute to"
Have a nice day.

[Shard92]

Some good points there lin but you know what... let them bash... THey'll bash you no matter what you do anyway....

[Ya_know]

then why stick your gob into a post yesterday about tony blair and gidaffi ,,,,and then said
"Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???


but stuck your gob in anyway


you stay the "uck out of what u know nothing about ,,,,,and maybe the rest of the world will stay out of your buissness,


you are a hypicritical biggot


go back to your thunderdome.

The reason I did that whole thing in your thread about Libya and England, was simply because you came in and opened a thread, automatically assuming that we all knew about the meeting. I for one didn't, and inputted what I felt to be a humorous method of extracting information from you, or any other member of the forum that felt like posting.

There are a lot of insults I can take with a grain of salt, but hypocritical and bigot are unacceptable. I am purposely advocating things that may seem like hypocrisy, but it is merely a writing style, so I will let that one go. But as far as the bigot comment…I do axpect and will accept your apology right away... :)

[Ya_know]

stuff the illitracy ,,the point i am making is valid .


this site is made up of people from around the world,

3 posts today

the one above (usa)

one regarding a bomb on fre french railways (france)

my post about gadaffi / blair (UK)

what we (i) don,t want/need is some _______ commenting "Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???"

and then kickin off when somebody , joins in a conversation that includes toipics related to the USA.

This is an American Pride thread. Get the #uck out!...


from someone who has just stuck his nose into a european problem , being discussed.

freddy

And I never stuck my nose into your problems. I merely wanted you to tell me what the #uck you were talking about. Still waiting on that apology... ;)

[Ya_know]

it feels like God just hit you in the head with a hammer! He then stands it straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Hearing damage: For certain

Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless!

:thumbs:

[Tekboy]

/quote3)If we truly are bullies, then lets get bullying. I want gas for $.05 a gallon. So, lets OWN Kuwait and offer Saudi the chance to just export to us for free. Now their is a valid point. Uh oh, the Saudis and Kuwaitis just nuked their oil field with Russian nukes rather than let us take it. Bye bye suv's
/quote

Save us the trouble and expense of nuking it ourselves, see if I care.

Screw your SUV too.

When faced with the need for innovation, this country has always shined. Take away the oil, and the economy based on the price thereof, and those jerks can go back to cooking with camel dung.

I am confident that, though things would be tough for a while, good old American "knowhow" would rise to the surface, and we would be forced to develop the alternate forms of energy already available.

Give me a little "Jetson" car! :thumbs:

[paraflyer]

3)[B]If we truly are bullies, then lets get bullying. I want gas for $.05 a gallon. So, lets OWN Kuwait and offer Saudi the chance to just export to us for free

So, let's just get these scientists together and figure out a way to suck all the oil out from under them.

It's not THEIR oil, they're just closer to it. :p

[Tekboy]

So, let's just get these scientists together and figure out a way to suck all the oil out from under them.

It's not THEIR oil, they're just closer to it. :p


Ooooooh, I LIKE that idea! :devil:

[techs]

/quote3)If we truly are bullies, then lets get bullying. I want gas for $.05 a gallon. So, lets OWN Kuwait and offer Saudi the chance to just export to us for free. Now their is a valid point. Uh oh, the Saudis and Kuwaitis just nuked their oil field with Russian nukes rather than let us take it. Bye bye suv's
/quote

Save us the trouble and expense of nuking it ourselves, see if I care.

Screw your SUV too.

When faced with the need for innovation, this country has always shined. Take away the oil, and the economy based on the price thereof, and those jerks can go back to cooking with camel dung.

I am confident that, though things would be tough for a while, good old American "knowhow" would rise to the surface, and we would be forced to develop the alternate forms of energy already available.

Give me a little "Jetson" car! :thumbs:
It is true that countries when they are forced to rely on their own resources can be highly innovative. A somewhat strange example is Germany making fuel from coal during ww2. However cutting off all imports would force us to develope litterally thousands of new industries to keep our standard of living, not just fuel. In fact I think if left to our complete own resources our standard of living would swiftly descend to second world level and stay there. I wish I had a list but for instance we have no diamond mines, chrome mines, rubber trees and litterly hundreds of other materials necessary for our industry. Not to mention the biggest losses of all-COFFEE and Chocolate. Two necessities of life.

[freddy]

And I never stuck my nose into your problems. I merely wanted you to tell me what the #uck you were talking about. Still waiting on that apology... ;)
I merely wanted you to tell me what the #uck you were talking about.


then read a bloody newspaper , things do hapen outside the USA. (or your little corner of it)


you get an apology ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no way ,


you were rude .
call me an old fart , but u stuck your gob in (and were dammed rude) and then have the ordasity to slag people from uk answering post about america ,,,

go play in your little hole ,

previous comments still stand .

[Cleetus]

Two greatest statement that make me :rolleyes:
1) If you don't like it get out - My god that is the dumbest, don't make me think to hard and just find myself the easiest possible solution statement ever

2) Lets close our borders - Oh yeah, just about the same as #1 in really trying to figure anything out and showing how little you really know

[Ya_know]

I merely wanted you to tell me what the #uck you were talking about.


then read a bloody newspaper , things do hapen outside the USA. (or your little corner of it)


you get an apology ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no way ,


you were rude .
call me an old fart , but u stuck your gob in (and were dammed rude) and then have the ordasity to slag people from uk answering post about america ,,,

go play in your little hole ,

previous comments still stand .

I hope you don't get a nosebleed from being so high on your horse. Why don't you go back and reread the Libya thread, and see if you can find one place in there where I stuck my gob in. I may have been rude, but you were being presumptuous that others knew what you were talking about, hence I made that clear. BTW, I will accept that apology as soon as you are ready... ;)

[Linthade]

Two greatest statement that make me :rolleyes:
1) If you don't like it get out - My god that is the dumbest, don't make me think to hard and just find myself the easiest possible solution statement ever

2) Lets close our borders - Oh yeah, just about the same as #1 in really trying to figure anything out and showing how little you really know

1) I didn't say that. I said "If you hate living here". Yours is the dumbest, easiest response to an overly used phrase that I didn't use. It is very simple. If you hate life in the US, get out. Move to another country more to your preferences. Don't screw with mine. Some of us happen to be happy here.

2) Please respond to what I actually posted, not what you infer on your own. Let me reiterate and clarify: "Lets close our borders to imports." Put simply, stop importing manufactured goods and other items that we certainly could make here. The fact we lack the capacity to meet demand is a state that would quickly be corrected, rest assured. I have no problem with immigration; my grandparents were immigrants. They built what I enjoy today.

I will happily clarify any statement I made in my post, but when refuting any of my points please make sure to actually refute a point I did make, not one you're imagining.

And though I thank everyone for the suggestion, I don't drink coffee. ;)

*lin*

[freddy]

you would probably need scaffolding , if u had a nose bleed.


topic http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56894


comments:

1:

You should have your drinking water tested. I think there is something contaminating your brain...Did you want to try and complete that thought more coherently a second time? Maybe then we would know what you are saying...

2:

Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???



so you are not rude and obnoctious?????


think again pal.


you are rude.

no apology from me.

[Cleetus]

1) I didn't say that. I said "If you hate living here". Yours is the dumbest, easiest response to an overly used phrase that I didn't use. It is very simple. If you hate life in the US, get out. Move to another country more to your preferences. Don't screw with mine. Some of us happen to be happy here.

2) Please respond to what I actually posted, not what you infer on your own. Let me reiterate and clarify: "Lets close our borders to imports." Put simply, stop importing manufactured goods and other items that we certainly could make here. The fact we lack the capacity to meet demand is a state that would quickly be corrected, rest assured. I have no problem with immigration; my grandparents were immigrants. They built what I enjoy today.

I will happily clarify any statement I made in my post, but when refuting any of my points please make sure to actually refute a point I did make, not one you're imagining.

And though I thank everyone for the suggestion, I don't drink coffee. ;)

*lin*

Point 1, you still sound like an idiot, even if someone complains, they should be asked to leave a nation that through the democratic process and freedoms you can make changes, sounds like you are afraid of change

Point 2, you still sound like an idiot, closing our borders to trade or immigration either/or is a stupid isolationist cop out showing you have no desire to make America greater than the already greatest nation ever status by trading with the world and remaining top of the game with the most choices available from the best sources throughout the world, you just have a hard time adapting so you would rather stick your head in the sand and bring the rest of us down with you


:thumbs2: :rolleyes: :flame: :butt: :p ;)

[Escape_Driver]

Hey the US could not live without imports you moron ??? What are you on crack ??? And P.S the rest of the world would stop inproting your goods putting even more people out of work ... Ya great idea...

[Ya_know]

you would probably need scaffolding , if u had a nose bleed.


topic http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56894


comments:

1:

You should have your drinking water tested. I think there is something contaminating your brain...Did you want to try and complete that thought more coherently a second time? Maybe then we would know what you are saying...

2:

Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???



so you are not rude and obnoctious?????


think again pal.


you are rude.

no apology from me.

And of course, I invite you to reread Post #32 from this thread (http://forums.windrivers.com/showpost.php?p=436956&postcount=32) , where I said something along the lines of: I may have been rude, but I defy you to find where I stuck my gob in somewhere where It don't belong.

I don’t want an apology for my “rude” behavior, but for your insinuation that I am bigoted, and hypocritical. Surely has nothing to do with me pointing out how stupid you were for not posting a link or article concerning your topic. As it stands, you realized in that thread you were wrong not to have posted more information so that those of us that live under a rock can understand the discussion, and get involved if we wish. You will note, nowhere in that thread did I opinionate for or against the meeting, for I didn’t feel I had anything worth inputting.

See while I am arguing one point, you are all over the place, finding fault and taking everything out of context. Not to mention this crusade against me is just a little juvenile. It all looks so pitiful. I don't hate you, I feel sorry for you...you need professional help. :p

[Ya_know]

Hey the US could not live without imports you moron ??? What are you on crack ??? And P.S the rest of the world would stop inproting your goods putting even more people out of work ... Ya great idea...

Come on guys, you are debating this? I think the whole thing was said with tongue in cheek, with no seriousnes intended...

[Cleetus]

Dude, you are bigoted and hypocritical, shut up :devil:

[jitBob]

It is true that countries when they are forced to rely on their own resources can be highly innovative. A somewhat strange example is Germany making fuel from coal during ww2. However cutting off all imports would force us to develope litterally thousands of new industries to keep our standard of living, not just fuel. In fact I think if left to our complete own resources our standard of living would swiftly descend to second world level and stay there. I wish I had a list but for instance we have no diamond mines, chrome mines, rubber trees and litterly hundreds of other materials necessary for our industry. Not to mention the biggest losses of all-COFFEE and Chocolate. Two necessities of life.
So, we "annex" Canada and Mexico, no worries! http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/sagrin.gif

PS. I am after all kidding. http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Ya_know]

Dude, you are bigoted and hypocritical, shut up :devil:

I guess you're right...apology accepted... :thumbs:

[freddy]

And of course, I invite you to reread Post #32 from this thread (http://forums.windrivers.com/showpost.php?p=436956&postcount=32) , where I said something along the lines of: I may have been rude, but I defy you to find where I stuck my gob in somewhere where It don't belong.

I don’t want an apology for my “rude” behavior, but for your insinuation that I am bigoted, and hypocritical. Surely has nothing to do with me pointing out how stupid you were for not posting a link or article concerning your topic. As it stands, you realized in that thread you were wrong not to have posted more information so that those of us that live under a rock can understand the discussion, and get involved if we wish. You will note, nowhere in that thread did I opinionate for or against the meeting, for I didn’t feel I had anything worth inputting.

See while I am arguing one point, you are all over the place, finding fault and taking everything out of context. Not to mention this crusade against me is just a little juvenile. It all looks so pitiful. I don't hate you, I feel sorry for you...you need professional help. :p

proffessional help i can get ,,,although i don,t need it.


what i do need is big gob ****es like you to %uck off and crawl back in your cave.


as of 18.24hrs on the 25/03/04 ya-know does not reply to any post that concerns any problem more than 200 yds from his front door (coz his big nose will sort any probs under 200 yds) ..and he don,t read a newspaper anyway,,,,


and i will not post on problems in his little state ,,,most of the local news is about sheep shaggin and bro/sis "haggin anyway.

[Ya_know]

proffessional help i can get ,,,although i don,t need it.


what i do need is big gob ****es like you to %uck off and crawl back in your cave.


as of 18.24hrs on the 25/03/04 ya-know does not reply to any post that concerns any problem more than 200 yds from his front door (coz his big nose will sort any probs under 200 yds) ..and he don,t read a newspaper anyway,,,,


and i will not post on problems in his little state ,,,most of the local news is about sheep shaggin and bro/sis "haggin anyway.

Now look at who is being rude. Here's the way I see it, you have a clinical mental problem, and you must research help...soon! Before your sh!t your brains out… :p

[freddy]

Now look at who is being rude. Here's the way I see it, you have a clinical mental problem, and you must research help...soon! Before your sh!t your brains out… :p
and you must get obidiance lessons ,,,



"uckin sit down and shut your gob up u pillock.


ps ,,,i,ve took u off my christmas card list :)

[Ya_know]

and you must get obidiance lessons ,,,



"uckin sit down and shut your gob up u pillock.

There you go with your broken English, and incomplete thoughts. That's what got you in trouble the last time!!!

[freddy]

your words , not mine.


You should have your drinking water tested. I think there is something contaminating your brain...Did you want to try and complete that thought more coherently a second time? Maybe then we would know what you are saying...

2:

Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???

[Ya_know]

your words , not mine.


You should have your drinking water tested. I think there is something contaminating your brain...Did you want to try and complete that thought more coherently a second time? Maybe then we would know what you are saying...

2:

Are you kidding, I don't even watch the local/national news. What makes you think I need to know about your world???

That’s the third time you've quoted that, or is it forth...anyway, you obviously don't relate to sarcasm or humor in any other form other than a fart or squishy things...so I am going to spell this out to you. I w-a-s j-o-k-i-n-g !-!-! Y-o-u T-o-o-k I-t T-h-e W-r-o-n-g W-a-y !-!-!

You then proceeded to go through all of this, no need to quote any of it, you laid them out back to back. You have an emotional problem with me, and you have yet to see through your own stupidity. I have all but admitted to being everything you said, but I still asked for an apology, why? Because I just wanted to see how far I could bend you before you snapped. From the looks of it, you still have room to bend…or perhaps you snapped a long time ago, and I didn’t realize it… :p

[freddy]

but i have still taken u off my chri:)stas card list :)



ok leave it ,,

[Ya_know]

but i have still taken u off my chri:)stas card list :)



ok leave it ,,

Left. :thumbs:

[freddy]

Left. :thumbs:

right:)

[paraflyer]

Left. :thumbs:


No! NO! No more Lefties! :p

[freddy]

No! NO! No more Lefties! :p

and u can £uck off ,,,go back to tje origional post ,,,,,:)

[Khazad]

Well well, what an interesting thread we have here. All have to say is if you think you really could just raid all those countried and get away with it you're greatly mistaken. The US is not the only military power in the world (although us canadians could do little to stop you, bloody pussy military), europe could unite and do a nice deal of damage to you if the states tried anything that sutpid, plus in the end someone would fire off one of their nukes and we'd all be screwed. So you're not doing much to help you case of not being called ignorant bullies if you think you could actually do those things.

[Diver01]

Well well, what an interesting thread we have here. All have to say is if you think you really could just raid all those countried and get away with it you're greatly mistaken.

Blast!! I would gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling Kids!!!!

:butt: :bor: :butt: :flame:

[Linthade]

Point 1, you still sound like an idiot,
Point 2, you still sound like an idiot,

First, I have refrained from calling names (as any educated debater knows is a great, mature tactic). I don't know if I can make it any more clear. What do you do when you hate your job? You find a new one. What do you do when you hate your relationship? You find a new one. I'll eagerly debate anyone who can stay above insults and actually comprehend singular concepts. That said, I fear no free speech. What I fear are fanatical liberals, especially in seats of power in our court systems, legislating from the bench.

Second, i'm not forcing anyone to leave. I'm indicating that if they "hate" America, relocate. Some of us like it like it is but would prefer to not deal with the whiners.

As far as change is concerned, it actually sounds to me like you fear it. The idea of being an independent nation, not being enslaved to imports, not being enslaved to the will of others scares you.

When all we get time after time is insulted for "Not acting in time" or in the reverse, "Meddling" then let them fend for themselves. If we're so bad then by all means, go it alone. Anyone who is deluded into thinking that we would shrivel and fade away without imports is suffering the same sickness. No one gave us what we have today, we earned it.

*lin*

[jitBob]

First, I have refrained from calling names (as any educated debater knows is a great, mature tactic). I don't know if I can make it any more clear. What do you do when you hate your job? You find a new one. What do you do when you hate your relationship? You find a new one. I'll eagerly debate anyone who can stay above insults and actually comprehend singular concepts. That said, I fear no free speech. What I fear are fanatical liberals, especially in seats of power in our court systems, legislating from the bench.

Second, i'm not forcing anyone to leave. I'm indicating that if they "hate" America, relocate. Some of us like it like it is but would prefer to not deal with the whiners.

As far as change is concerned, it actually sounds to me like you fear it. The idea of being an independent nation, not being enslaved to imports, not being enslaved to the will of others scares you.

When all we get time after time is insulted for "Not acting in time" or in the reverse, "Meddling" then let them fend for themselves. If we're so bad then by all means, go it alone. Anyone who is deluded into thinking that we would shrivel and fade away without imports is suffering the same sickness. No one gave us what we have today, we earned it.

*lin*
He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it. Being an isolationist, or "totally" independent nation has been tried before to varying degrees and has always caused us greef. It has hurt us prior to each of the great wars and it has hurt us economically in many of our policies. World cooperation is what is going to happen. The only choice we have is how do we want to flavor it? Do we help to make the decisions or do we have the decisions made for us?

[Cleetus]

First, I have refrained from calling names (as any educated debater knows is a great, mature tactic).

How did I know that one was coming :rolleyes: Oh yeah, the sole reason I put it in there, just like the person who complains about cussing being so low a form of language, yet rarely even knows what is coming out of their own mouths



Second, i'm not forcing anyone to leave. I'm indicating that if they "hate" America, relocate. Some of us like it like it is but would prefer to not deal with the whiners.

Ok, so you are saying you want things to stay exactly as they are

As far as change is concerned, it actually sounds to me like you fear it. The idea of being an independent nation, not being enslaved to imports, not being enslaved to the will of others scares you.
Now you think change is a good thing????

When all we get time after time is insulted for "Not acting in time" or in the reverse, "Meddling" then let them fend for themselves. If we're so bad then by all means, go it alone. Anyone who is deluded into thinking that we would shrivel and fade away without imports is suffering the same sickness. No one gave us what we have today, we earned it.

*lin*
Stand up like a man, know you are part of the greatest nation ever because it can change, because we are so powerful that every kid on the block is going to want to knock us down and complain about everything we do. It is our nation, not anyone elses. If we can't complain, then we have got problems.

[Escape_Driver]

Well well, what an interesting thread we have here. All have to say is if you think you really could just raid all those countried and get away with it you're greatly mistaken. The US is not the only military power in the world (although us canadians could do little to stop you, bloody pussy military), europe could unite and do a nice deal of damage to you if the states tried anything that sutpid, plus in the end someone would fire off one of their nukes and we'd all be screwed. So you're not doing much to help you case of not being called ignorant bullies if you think you could actually do those things.

Funny dispite the Canadians old equipment our soldiers beat the USA at wargames most of the time. We have the best trained Army in the world as I understand it. Pitty we fight with 40 year old weapons.

[jitBob]

Funny dispite the Canadians old equipment our soldiers beat the USA at wargames most of the time. We have the best trained Army in the world as I understand it. Pitty we fight with 40 year old weapons.
Isn't the Canadian army, like, 40 dudes? http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/sagrin.gif

[Jediab]

Funny dispite the Canadians old equipment our soldiers beat the USA at wargames most of the time. We have the best trained Army in the world as I understand it. Pitty we fight with 40 year old weapons.


I would dispute this. I think that the Canadians and the US army's would get trounced by the Isreali army... in desert warfare of course. :p

[Kymera]

I would dispute this. I think that the Canadians and the US army's would get trounced by the Isreali army... in desert warfare of course. :p

I don't know about that. Besides unmanned drones, the US is way ahead of every country in the world in warfare technology. The reason the US whooped Saddam so quickly is because our Mech Infantry has some of the best, if not the best, targetting and acquisition technology and the range to rain armor piercing death on the opposition before our vehicles are even at the edge of their firing range. The History Channel doesn't lie.

[Ya_know]

I don't know about that. Besides unmanned drones, the US is way ahead of every country in the world in warfare technology. The reason the US whooped Saddam so quickly is because our Mech Infantry has some of the best, if not the best, targetting and acquisition technology and the range to rain armor piercing death on the opposition before our vehicles are even at the edge of their firing range. The History Channel doesn't lie.

I love it when you talk dirty...http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/heart.gifhttp://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/flip1.gif

[Kymera]

I don't know whether that's a good thing or bad, but I should have pointed out that Israel is the leader in unmanned recon drones.

[corturbra]

The reason the US whooped Saddam so quickly is because our Mech Infantry has some of the best, if not the best, targetting and acquisition technology and the range to rain armor piercing death on the opposition before our vehicles are even at the edge of their firing range. The History Channel doesn't lie.

And because us Brits were helping you with your target practice. ;)

[Kymera]

Yep, that just proves that even the best technology is only as good as the people using it. As techs, I'm sure we can all appreciate that.

[silencio]

Isreal has a kick *** army; intelligence too.

[corturbra]

Yep, that just proves that even the best technology is only as good as the people using it. As techs, I'm sure we can all appreciate that.

Point taken ;)

[Kymera]

Isreal has a kick *** army; intelligence too.
No doubt. Krav Maga is an incredibly potent martial art, and the Israeli intelligence community is top notch, and Israel could probably annex from France to Portugal with little problems, but the US just has too much money to throw away on war toys.

[Escape_Driver]

I think the difference would be in the scale of the conflict. Canadian Troops are trained to be more versitile than the USA and the Canadian troops are far better educated. Now having said that the equipment and size of the armys... Canadians would get there asses kicked...

[kato2274]

No doubt. Krav Maga is an incredibly potent martial art. . . .
yeah did you see J-Lo kick that dudes a$$ in that movie

[Khazad]

Funny dispite the Canadians old equipment our soldiers beat the USA at wargames most of the time. We have the best trained Army in the world as I understand it. Pitty we fight with 40 year old weapons.

Ya i know that, canadian stormtroopers kicked major a$$ in WWII, and our fighter pilost are amopng the best in the world. There's just no here near enough of them and the equipment sucks as you say

[Ya_know]

Ya i know that, canadian stormtroopers kicked major a$$ in WWII, and our fighter pilost are amopng the best in the world. There's just no here near enough of them and the equipment sucks as you say

Man, you are someone in serious need of a spell and grammer checker...I am still not sure exactly what you said... :confused:

[Cleetus]

He said that the US Marine's suck and that they are all gay :devil:

[Thunderwind]

I think closing borders is a great idea. Look what it did for the USSR!

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Khazad]

Man, you are someone in serious need of a spell and grammer checker...I am still not sure exactly what you said... :confused:

Ya i know that, canadian stormtroopers kicked major a$$ in WWII, and our fighter pilots are among the best in the world. There's just no where near enough of them and the equipment sucks as you say

There fixed, too lazy to check on a regular basis

[Jediab]

Canadian troops are among the best if not the best in winter like warfare. Very gritty troops. Hard as nails. You have to be to live in -60F weather. I dont think that Canada has to worry too much about a standing military because of the treaty with the US. Canada knows that if they are attacked the full weight of the US military will come crashing down on the aholes who attacked our great beer making buddies to the north.

Now for canadians in WWII, if I remember correctly, they took some of the heaviest casualties during D-Day. The numbers were hidious. But they kept fighting till the end. For that alone they get a big big :thumbs:

[Escape_Driver]

We took the hardest beach heads and took some of the heaviest casualties during D-Day. All for the moron general Montgomery.....

[techs]

Canadian troops are among the best if not the best in winter like warfare. Very gritty troops. Hard as nails. You have to be to live in -60F weather. I dont think that Canada has to worry too much about a standing military because of the treaty with the US. Canada knows that if they are attacked the full weight of the US military will come crashing down on the aholes who attacked our great beer making buddies to the north.

Now for canadians in WWII, if I remember correctly, they took some of the heaviest casualties during D-Day. The numbers were hidious. But they kept fighting till the end. For that alone they get a big big :thumbs:
Although at the beginning of WW2 the canadians were concerned that they might take similiar casualties as they did in WW1 and made an effort to be supportive in ways other than actual combat troops (of which they did supply plenty). One of the things they did was set up huge training facilities for flyers in the hope that this would keep many of their troops safe in Canada.