And the constant bitching and moaning amongst certain members (yeah, you know who you arehttp://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/moon.gif) A simple yes or no will suffice. Thank you.http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/jammin.gif
corturbra
May 26th, 2004, 10:35 AM
Well I'm glad you asked me that question, but can I first say that under this government.... BLAH
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
techs
May 26th, 2004, 10:36 AM
No. There have been few elections ever held in this country as important as the one coming up. If one sides wins we will become a militaristic state perpetually at war with few civil liberties.
Kinda important, I think.
Camaro80z
May 26th, 2004, 10:46 AM
No. There have been few elections ever held in this country as important as the one coming up. If one sides wins we will become a militaristic state perpetually at war with few civil liberties.
Kinda important, I think.
Then why are you trying to get him elected? Just kidding. It is propoganda and outbursts like that is what the problem is. I vote Yes. :thumbs:
gazzak
May 26th, 2004, 10:46 AM
I wouldn't mind so much but your elections are at the end of the year. I will have slit my wrists by then.
Over here we'll talk about it the day before, the day after and then go back to boobies.
Go here instead (http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/index.php?) and leave us to post pad and stuff :thumbs:
paraflyer
May 26th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Over here we'll talk about it the day before, the day after and then go back to boobies.
That's about what I do when your Royal Family decides they've done something important, like wave at the public, or break a nail, or something....
paraflyer
May 26th, 2004, 10:51 AM
No. There have been few elections ever held in this country as important as the one coming up. If one sides wins we will become a militaristic state perpetually at war with few civil liberties.
Kinda important, I think.
So, what you're saying is that if Kerry wins, we'll have a Utopian society?
Dream on....
Cleetus
May 26th, 2004, 11:09 AM
Well it really isn't politics anymore, it is just Bush vs Kerry now, it ain't the fun gay marriage, abortion, taxes, Canada sucks, France sucks type stuff
techs
May 26th, 2004, 11:12 AM
So, what you're saying is that if Kerry wins, we'll have a Utopian society?
Dream on....
No I am not saying that.
shamus
May 26th, 2004, 11:14 AM
Good thing this didn't turn into another political debate thread...
techs
May 26th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Yes, I am glad.
WebHead
May 26th, 2004, 11:38 AM
I could care less about politics right now. I just can't stand having this nimrod in the whitehouse trying to play superman everyday. He is a miserable failure. It also just baffles my mind that anyone on this planet can support such a douch-bag. Those of you who don't take this seriously, kicking back making jokes, trying to look like the independant thinker, the guy who doesn't need to worry about all this, the guy who thinks people make too big a deal of this, etc. need to wake up. I'm not saying you should run around in a panic everyday. Of course we all need to live our lives the way we do. But we should also not ignore whats happening.
Anyway, if Bush wins this election, then the world is going to completely crumble and some of you will look back and WISH you could go back to the days when all you had to do was listen to people gripe about Bush. I guarantee it. This is only the beginning.
One more thing,... I will stop griping about Bush after he is fired in November. Until then,.. I feel very strongly about certain things, and if the subject comes up, I'll be there to voice. :)
2 cents
imaeditedbysowulo
May 26th, 2004, 11:42 AM
If you don't like the threads don't read them. How hard is that?
Personally I'm sick of the post pad threads and think they are the stupidest thing to clog this lounge and a complete waste of time, but I don't give a **** enough to go making a poll about it. Some people enjoy that kind of stuff so let them be. I just don't read them or participate.
No problem.
WebHead
May 26th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Btw,.. I forgot to answer the original question of this topic in my last rant. LOL.
Anyway,.. yes I AM sick of alking about politics. And after January 2005 when Bush goes away, I will be very happy to finally not have to talk about it anymore. :)
On the other hand,.. if Bush DOES happen to get re-elected,.. then you ain't seen nothin yet. I will dedicate as much time as it possibly takes to do whatever I can to get that sucker removed. One way or another,.. he will not be in that office for another 4 years. I will move to Zimbabwe before I live through another 4 years of that jacka$$.
gazzak
May 26th, 2004, 11:59 AM
If you don't like the threads don't read them. How hard is that?
Personally I'm sick of the post pad threads and think they are the stupidest thing to clog this lounge and a complete waste of time, but I don't give a **** enough to go making a poll about it. Some people enjoy that kind of stuff so let them be. I just don't read them or participate.
No problem.
Talk about not following your own advice! ;)
imaeditedbysowulo
May 26th, 2004, 12:03 PM
Talk about not following your own advice! ;)
How so?
I like this thread and most others, but if someone gives me enough **** I'll give some back.
ilovetheusers
May 26th, 2004, 12:09 PM
I will not post in this thread. So there.
Zil
May 26th, 2004, 02:10 PM
I will move to Zimbabwe before I live through another 4 years of that jacka$$.
You promise? :devil: :thumbs2:
Major Kong
May 27th, 2004, 12:42 AM
My Granddaddy told me years ago "Now boy don't you be like your Daddy! You never discuss politics, religion and University of Tennessee Football with folks because nuthin' good can come from it!"
My Dad WAS heavily involved in politics in Virginia in the 70's, 80's & early 90's (Republican Party, but he was/is a moderate more in line with John Warner than the err Biblepublicans of Pat & Jerry). Basically it was his job to convert folks from the old line VA Byrd Machine Dixicrat er...Democrat to the virtues of the GOP. This chore got a easier after Mills Godwin and then got downright a snap after Grits & Fritz. Imagine his horror when the fruit of his loins didn't quite grok his message. Heaven forbid that I would actually listen to the issues and not vote a straight party line - I actually came to this conclusion in '75 while in HS, so he couldn't blame it on them no good pansy, pinko, college communist!!!! :eek: Holy Moly I voted for John Anderson in '80! I did mollify him in '84 by voting for Ronnie, but then I went Libertarian on him and just ruined his day ;). Imagine his horror when we would sit down and talk and he found out that I was an independent thinking moderate whose views were very close to his. He still couldn't get over the Independent/Libertarian thing. It didn't matter what the issue was, or the party affiliation, you only voted GOP or Dem & you didn't split your vote! He finally accepted my way of thinking in '91 & eventually he now doesn't vote strict party line. We still talk long distance politics, but my Dad isn't active anymore and now he is of a much larger Libertarian bent. The funny thing is my wife & my Mom are just to the right of G. Gordon Liddy. My wife, who is a very, very smart lady, and I discuss issues and most of the time she falls straight on the GOP Platform (there are a couple of social issues she disagrees with though). Ironically her father was also active in VA politics and he was a poobah of the local Democratic Party in the 60's & 70's. My wife was the local leader of the Young Democrats in the 70's. She started leaning to the right in the mid-80's. One thing though...if you really want to get my wife pi$$ed all you have to do is mention Hillary Clinton and she will go ballistic. For some reason that she has never been able to 'splain she absolutely loathes HRC. Even funnier is that my 93 yr old Grandmother (Dad's Mom) is a Democrat. She has been that way since before FDR, but when you talk to her (she is still very lucid) her political leanings are a lot more Republican. She has spilt her ticket twice and that was when my Dad was running for local office in the 80's. Since then she votes straight party line - somethings are just thicker than family. :p
confus-ed
May 27th, 2004, 06:09 AM
And the constant bitching and moaning amongst certain members (yeah, you know who you are) ..
What the two who now say 'banned' next to them ? Jaxson & techs ?
Hey Trip you've gone & started a trend ! :eek2:
Maybe somebody will do us all a favour & ban political topics too, least for a bit ..
confus-ed
May 27th, 2004, 06:18 AM
If you don't like the threads don't read them. How hard is that?
Personally I'm sick of the post pad threads and think they are the stupidest thing to clog this lounge and a complete waste of time, but I don't give a **** enough to go making a poll about it. Some people enjoy that kind of stuff so let them be. I just don't read them or participate.
No problem.
This is very valid :thumbs: ... sadly as probably evidenced above, certain folks couldn't manage to distinguish that WotPP usuually is just playing on certain threads & manages the odd sneaky one here & there to hopefully lighten the mood a little (as of course I'm a major 'player'), but hijacking other unrelated threads to make political points (or in all fairness WotPP type stuff) isn't helping either those who would like to discuss rationally their points or other folks wishing to discuss other things ..
Cleetus
May 27th, 2004, 08:00 AM
What the two who now say 'banned' next to them ? Jaxson & techs ?
Hey Trip you've gone & started a trend ! :eek2:
Maybe somebody will do us all a favour & ban political topics too, least for a bit ..
If that becomes the case, I'll be gone much longer next time
TripleRLtd
May 27th, 2004, 08:17 AM
What the two who now say 'banned' next to them ? Jaxson & techs ?
Hey Trip you've gone & started a trend ! :eek2:
Maybe somebody will do us all a favour & ban political topics too, least for a bit ..Which one: me being banned to cool off, or them? http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/eek3.gif
But geesh: only two days? Trust me, it takes longer to cool off than that. They'll probably come back even more pi$$ed than they were before. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/nuke2.gif
Ban political topic altogether? Nah: then you'd never visit the lounge.http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
silencio
May 27th, 2004, 10:54 AM
The funny thing is my wife & my Mom are just to the right of G. Gordon Liddy. My wife, who is a very, very smart lady, and I discuss issues and most of the time she falls straight on the GOP Platform (there are a couple of social issues she disagrees with though). Ironically her father was also active in VA politics and he was a poobah of the local Democratic Party in the 60's & 70's. My wife was the local leader of the Young Democrats in the 70's. She started leaning to the right in the mid-80's.:p
I got a kick out of Liddy's comments on the BATF. What caused your wife to change her views?
Escape_Driver
May 27th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Boy if your sick of Politics are you going to have a rough summer !!!!
confus-ed
May 28th, 2004, 03:36 AM
...Ban political topic altogether? Nah: then you'd never visit the lounge.http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Its your thread MR ! :p ... ;)
Maybe what we want is sort of two lounges, one for politics & religion & 'serious' stuff (so like the abortion debates, gay rights debates etc) where behaviour is more 'controlled' & another for all the other stuff where we can just be daft where we might not be so 'formal' ..?
I think, like many here, I'm just sick of every thread turning into why George should/shouldn't get re-elected no matter what it actually starts off about ..
emr
May 28th, 2004, 04:30 AM
Which one: me being banned to cool off, or them? http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/eek3.gif
But geesh: only two days? Trust me, it takes longer to cool off than that. They'll probably come back even more pi$$ed than they were before. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/nuke2.gif
Ban political topic altogether? Nah: then you'd never visit the lounge.http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Those two got banned? YES!!!
emr
May 28th, 2004, 04:33 AM
Its your thread MR ! :p ... ;)
Maybe what we want is sort of two lounges, one for politics & religion & 'serious' stuff (so like the abortion debates, gay rights debates etc) where behaviour is more 'controlled' & another for all the other stuff where we can just be daft where we might not be so 'formal' ..?
I think, like many here, I'm just sick of every thread turning into why George should/shouldn't get re-elected no matter what it actually starts off about ..
If they really want to discuss politics that much why don't they go to a political forum?
confus-ed
May 28th, 2004, 04:58 AM
If they really want to discuss politics that much why don't they go to a political forum?
Well ... yeah ! :D .. but techies might like politics too I guess, I do {or of course other 'deep' subjects}, just not every topic ! ;) - but what about the 'serious lounge' vs 'like it is lounge' idea ?
(This idea was in 'passing' but its 'growing on me' ;) - so anyone? what do you think ?)
Yeah I know its yet another forum, but we've got loads, like techtales etc that rarely get used, so I guess I'm back to re-jigging all the forum titles yet again ..
jitBob
May 28th, 2004, 11:22 AM
Well ... yeah ! :D .. but techies might like politics too I guess, I do {or of course other 'deep' subjects}, just not every topic ! ;) - but what about the 'serious lounge' vs 'like it is lounge' idea ?
(This idea was in 'passing' but its 'growing on me' ;) - so anyone? what do you think ?)
Yeah I know its yet another forum, but we've got loads, like techtales etc that rarely get used, so I guess I'm back to re-jigging all the forum titles yet again ..
Works for me.
Ya_know
May 28th, 2004, 11:32 AM
I think the lounge has sunk to it's all time low. I remember when we had intelegent debates, now we have some of the dumbest things going on in here... :p But the boobie threads are still OK in my book.
Cleetus
May 28th, 2004, 11:34 AM
:rolleyes: Nah, you are just an idiot
Ya_know
May 28th, 2004, 11:37 AM
:rolleyes: Nah, you are just an idiot
And you're such a fag. Of course Boobie day is alright. Just because you like guys doesn't give you the right to come down on a wonderful tradition.
TripleRLtd
May 28th, 2004, 11:41 AM
I think the lounge has sunk to it's all time low. I remember when we had intelegent debates, now we have some of the dumbest things going on in here... :p But the boobie threads are still OK in my book. I have to agree that this is the case at least since I have been here. Bunch of stupid stuff. Remind anyone of any other now "defunct" forums/BB? Well, there is a way to overcome it: /ignore. Just don't respond. Too bad that a certain new member needs to spew his vile in other threads, though.http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Yet again: /ignore. I was offerred that same advice once before, and now I am finally accepting it as worthy advice.
Cleetus
May 28th, 2004, 11:49 AM
And you're such a fag. Of course Boobie day is alright. Just because you like guys doesn't give you the right to come down on a wonderful tradition.
You are so stupid you don't even know that I wasn't even talking about boobie friday, but your little belief that no one posts anything intelligent,
Ya_know
May 28th, 2004, 11:58 AM
You are so stupid you don't even know that I wasn't even talking about boobie friday, but your little belief that no one posts anything intelligent,
Shows how stupid you are for thinking that way. I knew what you were referring to, I just figured I'd put my spin on it.
You're a DumbA$$
Cleetus
May 28th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Yeah, well you are gay
Ya_know
May 28th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Yeah, well you are gay
Only in your wet dreams.. :eek2:
Orangeman
May 29th, 2004, 04:06 AM
I think the lounge has sunk to it's all time low. I remember when we had intelegent debates, now we have some of the dumbest things going on in here... :p But the boobie threads are still OK in my book.
Its gotten so bad I won't even argue with Hard-A$$ Conservatives like Ya_Know, Silencio and Meatwad anymore... :p
Why should I? It doesn't do any good. I don't change their opinion and they don't change mine so why argue?
Besides, engaging in argument just gets you madder and madder the more the other side refuses to concede - which is what a good arguer does....
confus-ed
May 29th, 2004, 07:02 AM
Orange Dude please take down your 'special picture' it is offensive ! :rolleyes:
(sure I know its been posted here loads of times & it always gets edited too)
On the subject or arguing with 'brick walls' remember you aren't just arguing with the individuals, you are creating a line of arguement which may sway other folks as & when they read it later, so if you believe what somebody is saying is 'wrong' & can come up with a counter arguement, then do ..
You mightn't be able to persuade the 'knuckleheads' & less transient souls among us, but you might someone who perhaps doesn't have quite as much to say as for instance I can .. ;)
Orangeman
May 29th, 2004, 07:33 AM
[QUOTE=confus-ed]Orange Dude please take down your 'special picture' it is offensive ! :rolleyes:
(sure I know its been posted here loads of times & it always gets edited too)
Okay its down, ;)
But I wasn't trying to make fun of those people who are born retarded and have no choice, I was poking fun of those who ACT retarded and make that choice...:D
ilovetheusers
May 29th, 2004, 07:34 AM
Political debate is something we can have here and it's nice as long as we act like adults. In this case J and T were arguing and throwing insults at each other in one of the threads. All vitreol and no intelligence.
When you have someone like Techs or Jaxzon who are so blinded by the rhetoric of their own party and can't conceed a point or just shut the hell up, it's pointless. At least others can change and adapt an idea but these 2 just switch to a different argument a dozen times no matter how many times you prove them wrong. Politics does this. It inspires a camaraderie that blinds you to other truths and no one is invulnerable to it.
TripleRLtd
July 29th, 2004, 12:04 AM
When you have someone like Techs or Jaxzon who are so blinded by the rhetoric of their own party and can't conceed a point or just shut the hell up, it's pointless.
At least others can change and adapt an idea but these 2 just switch to a different argument a dozen times no matter how many times you prove them wrong. Politics does this. It inspires a camaraderie that blinds you to other truths and no one is invulnerable to it.BUMP!!
PS
Shut up techs!!!!!!!!!
Wayward Clam
July 29th, 2004, 12:19 AM
I voted yes, but it wasn't to tell techs to shut up...
Jediab
July 29th, 2004, 02:51 AM
It inspires a camaraderie that blinds you to other truths and no one is invulnerable to it.
This is very deep. So true as well. You should see if you can coin this phrase. :thumbs:
NooNoo
July 29th, 2004, 04:08 AM
Odd triple, you criticised me for putting up a poll about politics, now here you are doing the same. Oh, and don't forget how you accused me of censorship and here you are telling Techs and Jaxson they may not speak.....I hope your hangover is worth it.
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