Uh-Oh, Some More Bad News for the Demos

[JaxSon]

From CNN, dated September 13, 2004:
Poll: Bush bounce persists (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/poll.tm/)
Last week's seismic voter shift to George W. Bush showed no signs of dwindling in this week's Time Poll. Bush continues to lead Democratic challenger John Kerry among likely voters by double digits, 52% - 41%, in the three way race, with Nader at 3%, the same as last week.

Putting this into perspective, just a month ago, post-Democratic convention, the Time Poll had Kerry with a statistically significant lead over Bush, 48% - 43%.

Kerry's Woes

Troubling for Kerry is that the Republicans have continued to shift the nation's agenda toward terrorism, a Bush stronghold, and away from the economy, as the voters' decisive issue. Terrorism is now at 26%, up 8 points from early August, among registered voters.

Republicans, both at the New York convention last week and since, have pounded Kerry on the terrorism issue. The economy, long a Kerry strength, has slipped to second place, at 24%, down 3 points since early August among registered voters.

Even more damaging to Kerry is that Bush now has a 6 point lead on handling of the economy, 50% - 44%. Just one month ago, Kerry had the edge, 51% - 42%.

Bush has also taken commanding leads over Kerry on handing of the following issues:

War on terrorism: Bush is up 23 percentage points over Kerry, 58% - 35%, compared to an 8 point lead in early August.

Situation in Iraq: Bush is up 20 points over Kerry, 57% - 37%, compared to a 2 point edge in early August.

Commander in Chief: Bush is up 20 points over Kerry, 57% - 37%, compared to a tie in early August.

Kerry now has only a small edge on health care, 47% - 42%, falling from an 18 point margin in early August. He's now just even up with Bush, 47% Bush -- 44% Kerry, on "understanding the needs of people like yourself," after leading Bush by 15 points in early August.

Bush Favorability Up, Kerry Down

Bush's favorability scores have risen significantly, to 54% favorable - 38% unfavorable. In early August, his favorability was even, 45% favorable -- 45% unfavorable. Meanwhile, Kerry's unfavorable ratings have increased significantly. His favorable -- unfavorable scores are now even, 43% favorable -- 42% unfavorable. In early August, Kerry favorable -- unfavorable ratio was almost 2 to 1, 53% favorable -- 29% unfavorable.

It's really starting to slip away for Kerry and his cohorts...and fast too!

Compare this thread to the wetheads lame thread:
Widows of 9/11 endorse John Kerry (http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=63744) ...where a total of 5 widows have thrown their considerable support behind Kerry.

:grin:

[JaxSon]

From CNN/Money:
Fund Managers Overwhelmingly Expect Bush Re-election (http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/14/markets/fund_managers/index.htm)

Of 290 fund managers surveyed by Merrill Lynch shortly after the Republican National Convention, about 66 percent said they believed Bush would win re-election in November, while just 20 percent expected a Kerry victory. Fifteen percent said they didn't know who would win.

It's no secret that many on Wall Street would prefer a second Bush term, fearing that Kerry would try to repeal tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and that he would be less corporate-friendly in his regulatory policies.

Some 31 percent of fund managers said they believed a Kerry victory would hurt U.S. financial markets, while 14 percent said it would have a positive impact and 48 percent said it would make no difference. Seven percent said they didn't know.

[Cleetus]

And once the debates start those number will all jumble up again

[JaxSon]

And once the debates start those number will all jumble up again

It's entirely possible...but I don't think so.

[Cleetus]

It's entirely possible...but I don't think so.
I think so, they will flip flop more then both the candidates combined :devil:

[Commander Klarg]

I think it's because most Americans are idiots, and are easily led around by sound bites, lip service, and spin from both parties. The numbers will bounce around as the mud is slung, and in the end the one who dives across the finish line first will win. The mudslinging is getting old. :bor:

[JaxSon]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/ELECTION/2004/special/president/electoral.map/popup.electoral.map.9.23.04.gif

CNN survey: Bush widens lead in Electoral College (dated Thursday, September 23, 2004) (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/23/electoral.map/index.html)
If the election were held today, Bush would receive 301 electoral votes to Kerry's 237, according to a CNN survey based on state polling as well as interviews with campaign aides and independent analysts. A candidate wins the election with 270 electoral votes, regardless of the popular vote.

[WebHead]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/ELECTION/2004/special/president/electoral.map/popup.electoral.map.9.23.04.gif

CNN survey: Bush widens lead in Electoral College (dated Thursday, September 23, 2004) (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/23/electoral.map/index.html)

Wrong. That map does not project the nearly 117 swing electoral votes. Think again.

[JaxSon]

Wrong. That map does not project the nearly 117 swing electoral votes. Think again.

Read it again...CNN went ahead and declared winners for all states. Of course, that could all change by November. But again, this is a "snapshot of how CNN believes the race stands today."

[WebHead]

Read it again...CNN went ahead and declared winners for all states. Of course, that could all change by November. But again, this is a "snapshot of how CNN believes the race stands today."

Oh right! How the heck can CNN know which way the swings will go? LMAO. Do you believe everything you read?

[Ya_know]

Oh right! How the heck can CNN know which way the swings will go? LMAO. Do you believe everything you read?

Listen to you! I don't think he believes that CNN can predict the winner, or determine swing votes, what he IS saying, is this is what CNN is reporting...

Not everyone is as blind as you Webbie...

[imaeditedbysowulo]

I'd say the map is accurate based off looking at the map from the 2000 election.

http://www.rosecity.net/al_gore/election_map2.gif


However, it is very possible if not likely that both Ohio and Florida will go to Kerry this time. That would be enough votes to make him president.

[WebHead]

Listen to you! I don't think he believes that CNN can predict the winner, or determine swing votes, what he IS saying, is this is what CNN is reporting...

Not everyone is as blind as you Webbie...

[O'Reilly] SHUTUP! [/O'Reilly]

[Ya_know]

[O'Reilly] SHUTUP! [/O'Reilly]

I am getting good at calling you out... :p

[WebHead]

I am getting good at calling you out... :p

You are also good at giving men **** ***'s. So what else is new?

[JaxSon]

However, it is very possible if not likely that both Ohio and Florida will go to Kerry this time. That would be enough votes to make him president.

From CNN, Friday, September 24, 2004:
Poll: Presidential race tight in Florida (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/24/battleground.polls/index.html)
Among likely voters surveyed in Florida, 49 percent said they supported Bush, 46 said they supported Kerry and 2 percent expressed support for independent Ralph Nader. Among registered voters, 47 percent chose Bush, 45 percent chose Kerry and Nader's support remained at 2 percent.

And,
Another Florida poll that came out Thursday, conducted by Quinnipiac University, showed a larger lead for the president among registered voters, with Bush at 49 percent, Kerry at 41 percent and Nader at 5 percent, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Can't speak for Ohio tho...

[WebHead]

Holy cow! I just found out that they took a poll in Wyoming of 3 people. 2 of those 3 people said they might favor Bush. That means that 66% of the votes are now going to Bush. What will the liberals do now??? Noooo!!! :eek2:

[JaxSon]

You're really getting weak and falling apart at the seams.

Just like Kerry's campaign...

[WebHead]

You're really getting weak and falling apart at the seams.

Just like Kerry's campaign...

Noooooo!!! What will I do? I'm melting! Melting! Melting!

[paraflyer]

Holy cow! I just found out that they took a poll in Wyoming of 3 people. 2 of those 3 people said they might favor Bush. That means that 66% of the votes are now going to Bush. What will the liberals do now??? Noooo!!! :eek2:

66%? 2 out of 3 people interviewed?

Sounds like the same poll Sarah Brady used to support the AWB. :devil:

[imaeditedbysowulo]

From CNN, Friday, September 24, 2004:
Poll: Presidential race tight in Florida (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/24/battleground.polls/index.html)


And,


Can't speak for Ohio tho...

The most recent for Ohio that I could find had Kerry with a slight lead.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Ohio%20August%2028.htm


I dont put a whole lot of faith in the accuracy of them tho. Both states could go either way. Not too much longer til we find out for sure.

[WebHead]

The poll numbers mean nothing imo. After September 30th,.. everyone will see what a jackazz Bush is anyway,.. so it's all good. :)

[JaxSon]

From CNN, dated Tuesday, September 28, 2004:

President's approval rating highest since January (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/prez.poll/index.html)

Headed into their first face-to-face debate, President Bush appears to be leading Democratic Sen. John Kerry among likely voters, with a clearer edge among registered voters.

The CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows that among likely voters, Bush was the choice of 52 percent, while Kerry was the choice of 44 percent and independent Ralph Nader garnered 3 percent. That result was within the poll's margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

In the broader category of registered voters, 53 percent supported Bush; 42 percent, Kerry; and 3 percent, Nader. That question had the same margin of error.

And,
Although the poll showed Americans divided almost evenly over whether they approve of the president's Iraq policy, 55 percent said it was not a mistake to send U.S. troops there, compared with 42 percent who thought it was a mistake.

And a majority, 53 percent, said they would support Bush if he wanted to send still more troops to Iraq.

Asked which man would better handle the situation in Iraq, 55 percent said Bush and 41 percent said Kerry. Two months ago, they were tied on that question.

This is all after Kerry and Krew have been constantly deriding the President and his handling of the war in Iraq. If this is what Kerry is going to be banking his campaign on, well...

[Cleetus]

On modern poll taking, do they call cell phones?

[Cleetus]

On modern poll taking, do they call cell phones?
Hello, anyone got an answer

[jitBob]

Hello, anyone got an answer
Never had one call my cel.

[Cleetus]

Yeah, something I was thinking about. My generation is increasingly staying with cell phones while no longer bothering with home phones. It is an accepted practice now, as it used to be pizza places would complain and so forth. So then if we are neglecting a large portion of the polling populace, wouldn't that skew the outcome, esp in the direction towards the candidate and views of the older, established peeps?

Or am I way off?

[JaxSon]

The poll numbers mean nothing imo. After September 30th,.. everyone will see what a jackazz Bush is anyway,.. so it's all good. :)

From CNN, dated October 18th:
Kerry's debate showing not translating to popularity (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/17/poll.sunday/index.html)

The latest poll, taken after the third and final debate last Wednesday in Tempe, Arizona, indicated an edge of 49 percent to 46 percent for Bush among the same group.

That is still practically even -- given the margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. The October 9-10 poll had a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.

But among likely voters Bush had a larger spread -- 52 percent to 44 percent. That compared with a 49 percent to 46 percent edge for Bush in the previous poll.

What in the world is wrong with everyone? Didn't they all see the debates and see what a jackazz Bush is?!? Those silly American voters... [/END SARCASM]

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