XBOX of PlayStation 2?

[Diver01]

Since Burnout 3 has come out, ive been thinking about getting one of these 2 systems.

What would you get? Ive heard that XBOX has some issues with Multiplayer? IS this true?

[Stalemate]

Don't know about any issues with XBox, but I do know that their implementation is quite polished.


I picked the PS2 simply for compatibility with my existing games and the available titles for that platform are better suited for what me and the kids want.

But I wouldn't spit on the XBox either. ;)


Now, as for the GayCube...

[gazzak]

Kids=playstation, no kids=xbox.

Me kids!

[Momoman907]

I would get EA to get off their butt and release the game to PC. The Xbox uses a GF2 card so you can only imagine how antiquated the entire thing is. The PC still remains to be the ultimate gaming platform. Its just that companies have gotten lazy and have retreated to the safety of the console forgetting they would'nt even be if it weren't for the PC.

[Diver01]

I gotta say I havent been too impressed with the way EA has handled their racing game series in the last couple of years.

The last real good Need For Speed release that I enjoyed was Porche Unleashed.

I tried Underground and wasnt impressed.
Tried Hot Pursuit 2 and wasnt impressed.

Now they come out with what looks like a real cool arcade type racing game where the part of the object is to cause a really big wreck and lots of explosions, car parts flying all over the place, fun stuff I tell ya... and they leave the PC out?!? Damnit!

Not Happy at all with EA Games. Not one bit...

[Cleetus]

Console all the way baby, it stays the same, the games are all released just for it. There ain't no other way

[Momoman907]

The day they start having competitons for gaming where the fist place prize is $400,000 for a console, I'll consider one. That conept is only available for PC at this time. But there are still more games for PC than console. The fight is to keep it that way.

And you want a great game, try Mercedes Benz World Racing. Now that they have provided an online frontend, been a total blast racing with the buds. Blows UG away, 118 tracks, and around 40 cars have been added to the game that came with I'm not sure how many. And World Racing 2 looks like its totally going to be cool.

You can find a lot of info on MBWR at www.needforbetterspeed.net

And we are visited over there regularly by one of the TDK reps.

[Cleetus]

Um, ok, how often does a console come out? Every 4 years or more? How much stuff are you buying for your computer every year just to stay up to date?

Honestly, I got better things for my money like smokes, beer and hookers then constantly updating a machine that is mostly used to surf for porn. I'll take the console a year or so after release when the price has dropped by half, and keep it for at least 4 years.

[Momoman907]

But on my computer as well as playing very cool games. I do programming, create and edit artwork, do video editing, have a 128 track studio, do spreadsheets, compose letters, email, etc. I roll over a computer every two years, I always have two. My slower computer gets sold off and my cost for a new one is compensated by doing so. I set out a budget and shop until I get the computer components I want for the price I wish to pay. I spend maybe an hour putting it together, install the OS and away I go. And I haven't put a single cent into my main machine since I put it together 18 months ago. As I too have no desire to be bleeding edge, just somewhere close.

I don't care for porn, I don't drink beer, and I have no need for hookers as my wife keeps me quite happy there.

And wait unti you see the price of the PS3 and Xbox2. MS won't be willing to sell its 2nd gen console for below cost, even a few years in. But that will be a wait and see, and maybe I'll be wrong.

To each their own...

[Radical Dreamer]

I would get EA to get off their butt and release the game to PC. The Xbox uses a GF2 card so you can only imagine how antiquated the entire thing is. The PC still remains to be the ultimate gaming platform. Its just that companies have gotten lazy and have retreated to the safety of the console forgetting they would'nt even be if it weren't for the PC.


Actually, you should really get your facts straight before attempting to comment on hardware.

The Xbox uses an nVidia gpu, that is true. However, it uses an NV2A core which lands somewhere between the Geforce 3 (NV20) and GeForce 4 (NV25)

More info available here http://www.digit-life.com/articles/nv20/

I do agree that the PC is the superior gaming platform, but even though I hate to, I have to take up (somewhat) for the xbox and its hardware

Here is a direct quote from the project manager of hte Xbox

"We're working with Nvidia to develop a graphics chip which is a step beyond the NV20, it's called the NV2A. In early design discussions, we did loosely refer to it as an 'NV25', but decided to change it to NV2A to avoid, not incite confusion. it's a custom chip which is designed especially for the Xbox and some very specific requirements for the console that makes it a non-candidate for a pc card and will be faster than the NV20."

[delmer_1]

my vote is for xbox. I have both an xbox and PS2..but i have had alot more fun with the xbox.

i have not heard of any multiplayer issues with burnout 3..but i havent attemted to play any multiplayer with it yet.

generally speaking..in comparing the two systems..the xbox versions of the games will look better, run smoother, and usually have more features...it only makes sense to get the xbox version

also, the burnout 3 soundtrack is really lame...if you get the ps2 version, you are stuck with it..or no music at all. with the xbox version, you can rip your own music to the hard drive, and create custom soundtracks...burnout 3 supports these.

plus, with the xbox, it most games support dolby digital audio, where with ps2, you only get pro logic II.

PS2 has alot more games..but they are really starting to look dated. and there are lots of great xbox games on the horizon...among them..Halo 2.

plus alot of features not available on ps2:

built in ethernet
built in hard drive
4 controller ports
in game dolby digital
custom soundtracks
xbox live - universal buddy list, and Downloadable Content
more powerful hardware than PS2
analog triggers on the controllers, which are much better for racing games

[delmer_1]

i still reccomend an xbox..but if you do end up going with the PS2, they are getting ready to launch a redesigned smaller version, that has a modem and ethernet adapter built in.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/245719.asp

[ilovetheusers]

Kids=playstation, no kids=xbox.

Me kids!


Wife/GF that plays the same old antiquated games the kids do = PS2 :thumbs2:

[TechZ]

New PS2 and Sony stuff
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?p=527203#post527203

[Diver01]

Well, after some consideration, im leaning towards the XBox. I may get one this afternoon, I may wait till tomorrow after work... not sure... Still contemplating waiting on the new PS2 but im not sure if its worth it... I dont wanna spend $300 on a new PS2 thats for sure...

[delmer_1]

go with the xbox..you wont regret it.

[Diver01]

Yeah I went out last night and got it. Just picked up the Digital adapter today at lunch so I can hook it up to my Theater system too...

Burnout 3 is freakin awesome!!!


:devil: :flames:

[jaeger]

Recently nabbed a Gamecube for those moments when I absolutely don't want to have to use my brain while gaming. Works well and dirt cheap if you can find one at a pawn shop. PC is still the better platform for gaming.

[delmer_1]

Yeah I went out last night and got it. Just picked up the Digital adapter today at lunch so I can hook it up to my Theater system too...

Burnout 3 is freakin awesome!!!


:devil: :flames:


indeed. i love burnout 3...very satisfying. especially with 5.1 audio..it really helps you stay ahead, becasue you can tell when someone is about to pass you, and determine pretty much exactly where they are.


Mortal Kombat Deception is also pretty good..there is a story/adventure mode where you travel around different realms in search of unlockables, and to complete missions. i think this is a much better way to go about unlocking characters and stuff, than just by playing through the game with every character like most fighting games.. outlaw golf 2 is out today, and should be awesome. and then there is Halo 2 on Nov 9th. it is a good time to own an xbox.

there are also hundreds of great titles out there that are cheap. i currently have 85 xbox games..so if you need any suggestions, let me know.

[gtiseb]

xbox,

Play the following : halo, Riddick, fable, splinter cell 1 & 2, need for spee underground, x-men legends, red dead revolver, all of th EA sports games, after that come and talk about : 1) any other console 2) pc graphics are better.

I'll give that this generation of pc graphics are improved over the xbox, with the latest GPU's and only marginally, and xbox2 will have the same quality if not better (trust me... I got contacts), but where the xbox really shines is in mutliplayer. No PC games can match the simplicity or stability of xbox live. all the consoles use the same hardware so there's no issues with hardware lag, net lag may be a problem in some areas and frankly being able to trash talk in EVERY game for the system is just great.

I still love my pc (i'll be playing Halflife 2 on monday and probably won't stop until I finish it).

[Diver01]

I still love my PC too, but a lot of cool games just arent available for it. I am a big racing junkie and also any kind of space combat, flight sim game too. Back in the day there were plenty of titles for the PC, now it seems most of them are console only games...

[jaeger]

xbox,

Play the following : halo, Riddick, fable, splinter cell 1 & 2, need for spee underground, x-men legends, red dead revolver, all of th EA sports games, after that come and talk about : 1) any other console 2) pc graphics are better.

I'll give that this generation of pc graphics are improved over the xbox, with the latest GPU's and only marginally, and xbox2 will have the same quality if not better (trust me... I got contacts), but where the xbox really shines is in mutliplayer. No PC games can match the simplicity or stability of xbox live. all the consoles use the same hardware so there's no issues with hardware lag, net lag may be a problem in some areas and frankly being able to trash talk in EVERY game for the system is just great.

I still love my pc (i'll be playing Halflife 2 on monday and probably won't stop until I finish it).

I don't buy Xbox Live being superior to PC multiplayer. Sure as hell not with UT2K4 out there. I won't even mention how pointless FPSes still are on console systems.

[+Daemon+]

got them both + gamecube. They all have games the other doesnt.

[gtiseb]

I don't buy Xbox Live being superior to PC multiplayer. Sure as hell not with UT2K4 out there. I won't even mention how pointless FPSes still are on console systems.
So obviously you've never multiplayed on xbox live? Rainbow Six, ghost recon, Splinter Cell all of those on xbox live will change your idea. Don't get me wrong, I love my pc, and I'm crazy UT24k player too (HEADSHOT!!!!) but xbox live is the directions multiplayer should go. See, UT24k on does stuff for UT24k, the joy of xbox live is alot of the "lobby" stuff is standardized, which means it doesn't matter what game you want to play, finding an opponent (or partner) is the same procedure. If you know anyone who has live, spend a night at thier place trying out some games there (the ones I mentioned as well as PGR2, the EA games, Crimson Skies) and then decide. Plus in less than 2 weeks, Halo 2 is out.

[thorian]

So obviously you've never multiplayed on xbox live? Rainbow Six, ghost recon, Splinter Cell all of those on xbox live will change your idea. Don't get me wrong, I love my pc, and I'm crazy UT24k player too (HEADSHOT!!!!) but xbox live is the directions multiplayer should go. See, UT24k on does stuff for UT24k, the joy of xbox live is alot of the "lobby" stuff is standardized, which means it doesn't matter what game you want to play, finding an opponent (or partner) is the same procedure. If you know anyone who has live, spend a night at thier place trying out some games there (the ones I mentioned as well as PGR2, the EA games, Crimson Skies) and then decide. Plus in less than 2 weeks, Halo 2 is out.


I bought a PS2 For Gran Turismo 3 and I bought a Xbox (well 4 of them) when the wife was opening a coffehouse (was setting up a halo lan) Sold all of it and bought a Rifle. However with Gran turismo 4 it looks like the new slim line PSTWO will be in my future. But Halo 2 Is Badd *** also. HMMM I may have to get both again.

[scutterboy]

XBOX of late is doing better in my opinion than PS2.
Online games are better engineered on the XBOX.

I thought HALO was the best console game ever.
Recent additions to my XBOX collection include.
Fable, Halo2, Thief deadly assasin,
Faves, Knights of the Old republic

Next one to come will be Knights of the Old Republic II


The PS2 does have Dolby Digital in game though Delmer thought it didn't and I don't think custom soundtracks are much of a selling point?? I agree with him that the XBOX triggers are better then PS2 shoulder buttons and I also think that the PS2 games look dated where XBOX is still being pushed to the limit..

PC's are great for games but developers can't afford to develop just for PC's as the market is to small. Some games don't really suit PC just as strategy games aren't great without high resolution and a mouse.
The maths is straight forward. Consoles are just about £100 and a decent graphics card alone will cost more than that. PC gaming is too expensive for most people.

[scutterboy]

I don't buy Xbox Live being superior to PC multiplayer. Sure as hell not with UT2K4 out there. I won't even mention how pointless FPSes still are on console systems.

Gamecube.. James Bond.. (was it to die another day??) Great FPS
XBOX.... HALO.. great FPS game. multiplayer is fab. Halo2 Live will be sweet.


I think that PC LAN is the best way to play FPS too. Counterstrike with 30 people is awsome. UT, Wolfenstein and quake take some beating.

[Budster64]

The day they start having competitons for gaming where the fist place prize is $400,000 for a console, I'll consider one. That conept is only available for PC at this time. But there are still more games for PC than console. The fight is to keep it that way.

And you want a great game, try Mercedes Benz World Racing. Now that they have provided an online frontend, been a total blast racing with the buds. Blows UG away, 118 tracks, and around 40 cars have been added to the game that came with I'm not sure how many. And World Racing 2 looks like its totally going to be cool.

You can find a lot of info on MBWR at www.needforbetterspeed.net

And we are visited over there regularly by one of the TDK reps.

And you win a lot of money at PC competitions do you?

And the concept that there are more games for PC than for consoles is not necessarily the case. Take into consideration that the PS2 plays just about all the PS1 titles then add the games available only for the Xbox and the gamecube
you'll quickly see that anyone can own a vast library of console games as compared to PC games. However I personally own more PC games than I own more console games. On the shelves just behind me I have over 240 PC games, which is quite a bit compared to my measely 30 some odd console games.

Don't get me wrong both avenues have their ups and downs.
As a gamer I have PC games and I have console games. My PC costs a helluva lot, of course I'm an upgrade junkie, but that's been toned down quite a bit. And I don't use it solely for games either.

I also own more than 1 console, an Xbox, a gaycube (must have resident evil), a PS1 and even a dreamcast.

My PC games offer me quite a bit in terms of graphics quality primarily, but I pay for that dearly in terms of graphics cards alone if I want to play them in all their "graphical splendor" and the way the developers wanted me to play it.
On the other hand my consoles offer me quick, trouble free (for the major part) gaming and although I do play on an HDTV it's still not a match for the resolution I get on my PC. Nevertheless it's still fun.

[Budster64]

Honestly, I got better things for my money like smokes, beer and hookers

ROFLMAO!!!! Cleetus you never change do you??? :thumbs: :p

[Lost]

I'm in the same boat as Budster I got's them all(except the cube)and I only play the P.C and the Xbox sorry Dream,Ps,there just isn't any thing on the competition that is really hitting,like other's have said all the big player's are coming out on the Gates machines,although I think you guy's are to quick at discrediting the cube,it's doesn't have a lot of games compared to the competition,but when you look at how much crap each systems got per good games,the tendo's not bad.But,the competition boils down to a mix of different gem's from each system.
And Billy Boy's got Halo 2,so I got's to vote for the big green Halo machine.Turn's out the dark side's more powerful after all,sorry Luke

:flames:

[Lost]

Wow :eek: the xbox is currently is currently more popular than beer!?!
put's the competition to shame.