DO NOT CALL Registry.

[TripleRLtd]

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Supreme Court Won't Hear Do Not Call Case

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WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court turned away a challenge Monday to the federal do-not-call registry, ending telemarketers' bid to invoke free-speech arguments to get the popular ban on unwanted phone solicitations thrown out.

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The court, without comment, let stand a 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22U.S.%20Circuit%20Court%20of%20Appeals%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw) - web sites (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=U.S.%20Circuit%20Court%20of%20Appeals)) decision that upheld the registry of more than 57 million phone numbers as a reasonable government attempt to safeguard personal privacy and reduce telemarketing abuse.



Under the 2003 federal law, businesses face fines of up to $11,000 if they call people who sign up for the registry — unless they have recently done business with them. Charities, pollsters and callers on behalf of politicians, however, are exempt.



Telemarketing groups had filed the appeal, arguing in filings that the registry violated First Amendment rights because it singled businesses out while exempting other groups. They also said 2 million of their 6.5 million workers will lose their jobs within two years if the do-not-call rules stand.



A federal judge in Denver agreed with the telemarketers, but the circuit court upheld the registry in February 2004 after concluding there was no evidence suggesting that charitable or political callers were as intrusive to consumers' privacy.



The case is American Teleservices Association v. FTC, 03-1552.

My question? So when the hell will they actually stop bothering me???

[nunob]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20041004/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_do_not_call
My question? So when the hell will they actually stop bothering me???
Even the supreme court wouldn't overturn something that 57 million people felt strongly about. :thumbs:

[confus-ed]

My question? So when the hell will they actually stop bothering me???

Try not paying your phone bill for a while .. works every time - the man with the big scissors comes & sorts it ALL out :devil:

[TripleRLtd]

Try not paying your phone bill for a while .. works every time - the man with the big scissors comes & sorts it ALL out :devil:Teh BIG what???http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/eek3.gifhttp://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[confus-ed]

Pointy things you use for cutting stuff, them that Cleetus shouldn't run about with ! :D

[Radical Dreamer]

Back in the day when I used landlines, It worked wonders for me, never got a call after it went into effect, or maybe it just seemed that way. Now I only have a cell phone and never get a telemarketing call

[Camaro80z]

I am on both the federal ans Minnesota do not call list, and neither have reduced the calls. :flame:

[TripleRLtd]

Back in the day when I used landlines, It worked wonders for me, never got a call after it went into effect, or maybe it just seemed that way. Now I only have a cell phone and never get a telemarketing callBut that's the thing. This "Act" is a year old now. And it was fought against from the beginning. So: when the hell will it actually work for those who signed up?

[Cleetus]

I only use my cell, no calls for me :thumbs:

[TripleRLtd]

10 to 1 they get around to cell phones eventually.

[hudsonsmith]

NY's list went into effect several years before the federal list and was then merged into it. I've seen a significant dropoff. Perhaps you are getting caught in one of the loopholes: political organizations, charities, surveyors and companies with which you have an existing business relationship. You can override the last one if you make a specific request that they not call you. If you're still getting calls that don't fall into these categories, file a complaint

[gazzak]

Try not paying your phone bill for a while .. works every time - the man with the big scissors comes & sorts it ALL out :devil:

I once worked in a telephone exchange and 4 times a year I had to disconnect all the idiots that hadn't paid their bills. I can tell you now that I never had a big pair of scissors. I wish I did have, that would have been a blast!

(I then spent the next day reconnecting 99% of them)

[imaeditedbysowulo]

But that's the thing. This "Act" is a year old now. And it was fought against from the beginning. So: when the hell will it actually work for those who signed up?


The problem is that people think that just by signing up their work is done. What you have to do is when you get a call ask for the company name and address and document what time they called and the date.

I no longer have it, but somewhere on the registry website was a link you click on to report companies that call you even if you are on the list. If noone is reporting the companies of course they will continue calling people on the list. Everyone has to do their part and report these ****suckers and eventually the calls will stop cuz they will get tired of being fined.

I haven't gotten a call in several months.

[TripleRLtd]

I am aware that one should "nail" the feckers. But, since this ACT was passed, there have been challenges to it. Did any of those challenges lead to a delay in implementation? If so, does todays ruling make the act "law", or has it been law for the last year?

[imaeditedbysowulo]

I am aware that one should "nail" the feckers. But, since this ACT was passed, there have been challenges to it. Did any of those challenges lead to a delay in implementation? If so, does todays ruling make the act "law", or has it been law for the last year?


I don't believe there was ever a ruling that overturned it, so as far as I know it has been a "law" since it's original implementation. Just keep a log and report companies as they call you. Eventually we'll get to a point where it's safe to answer your own phone again. Course by then everyone will have turned off their home phone and have switched to cell phones only, but it's the point that matters.

[confus-ed]

..Under the 2003 federal law..

& this is an 'appeal' against it, so Surly Shirley Surely says it must be law already to appeal against it ?

[TripleRLtd]

Thanks Shirley. http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
So, there is no "stay of execution" when it comes to this then? Well, I must start writing down the scofflaw's names from now on then. http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

[imaeditedbysowulo]

I'm so crafty with google I decided to give ya'll a link to the complaint page.

https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.aspx



1. To file a complaint now, your phone number must have been on the registry for three months.

2. To file a complaint, we need the date you got the call, and either the name or telephone number of the company that called you.


*Reminder: Even if your number is registered, companies with which you do business may continue to call you. So may charities, political organizations, and telephone surveyors. Click Here for more information about the companies that may continue to call the numbers on the registry.

Click on Privacy and Security


Let's nail these *************ers.

[craigmodius]

just keep this list of questions (http://www.junkbusters.com/script.html) to ask them handy. :thumbs:

I signed up with the NYS do not call list before it merged to the national one and I only get the occasional charity call.

[Cobra X]

10 to 1 they get around to cell phones eventually.

They already have. My dad was telling me he got one on his work cell the other week. :sad:

[El Clammino]

I am on both the federal ans Minnesota do not call list, and neither have reduced the calls. :flame:

You may want to verify if you are actually on the lists. if you are, ask the caller for the full name of company and location they are calling from. Ask if they are aware that you are listed in the do not call registry, they DO have it. Let them know that each infraction is $10,000 per incident. Tell them thank you and that you will now be calling to report them for violation of the DNC.

The company I work for has to get an updated DNC list every few weeks and it MUST be listed in our referrals that the person is on the Do Not Call list, or face the consequenses.

[corturbra]

Well there's three ways I've found round the problem of these time wasting twits.....

1. Get an answering machine, only friends and families and genuine callers will leave a message, which you can choose to delete and ignore anyways

2. I got BT to block 'hidden' numbers, a favourite of the phone spammers.... Now when someone hides their telephone number they get a recorded message from BT saying "the number you are calling is refusing to accept withheld numbers"

3. Never give out your phone number unless it is essential, that includes your mobile. Despite what these companies say they will sell your details to "carefully selected companies" anyway

Since applying the second option, I haven't had one unsolicited telephone call, and most businesses that I've dealt with don't get my phone number unless I see it as essential they have it. If they have my e-mail address for their spam lists, they sure as hell don't need my phone number as well.

[Tekboy]

I have had a couple calls on my cell phone from spammers, but they were "directional" spam, meaning they had to do with me being a tech.

They have been from "marketers" wanting to sell me advertising from as far away as Dallas. I learned years ago not to listen to these fools, and I will NOT pay money to talk to them.

Click

[Commander Klarg]

I have caller id and an answering machine. If the caller is not identified, I don't pick up the phone. There are a few instances of people that will not show up on the caller id, but they know enough to leave a message. If I am standing there, I can always pick the phone up and interrupt the answering machine once they've ID'ed themselves.

It's been off and on for me. Lately have been getting a couple a night, though I suspect that they have to do with the upcoming elections.

[Radical Dreamer]

10 to 1 they get around to cell phones eventually.

Thats when I get rid of my phone entirely, and use a blackberry

[Cleetus]

Thats when I get rid of my phone entirely, and use a blackberry
But the blackberry has a phone, and they will call that phone