Xp 64

[RejectionMan]

anyone worked with it?

I will be installing the beta tonight (if it will let me), and will be posting comments, troubles ect.

[Ferrit]

Yes I have it and have installed it
I would go looking for 64 bit drivers for all of your hardware before putting it in.

[RejectionMan]

Ok installed no problems. first note, all the screen shots you see in the articles are out of date, the skins are now enabled, and the look and feel is exactly like normal XP pro with SP 2.

First couple of problems:

Mozila Thunderbird apprently uses coding practices that violate the Data Execution Prevention System, so it will have to be excluded from the DEP list.

Norton AV 2005 will not install on a 64 bit platform! Even though both the OS and processor were designed to run both 64 and 32 bit applications concurently Norton has chosen to display a pretty little error that tells you they dont support 64 bit and you cannot install this product. Im tired of getting scred by these guys every time I get a newer PC or OS, and will no longer be buying their ****.

Other than being without AV it runs like a top.

[RejectionMan]

ok obviously Mcafee and norton have simmilar coding practises as both of their older products (the ones not smart enough to look for a 64 bit OS) Norton AV 2004 and Mcafee 7 enterprise casue IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL errors.

that being said anyoneknow of a current AV product that will work on the BATA 64 bit platform.. or is this experiment concluded untill the manufactures pull their collective heads out of their @$$es and get on board with 64?

[RejectionMan]

another area that is some what flakey is any application that installs a service. (this appears to be the root cause of the AV problems)

[RejectionMan]

More testing results:

The ATI Catlyst 64 drivers are POOH! dont install them unless you absolutly have to. The MS radeon drivers perform much better. After installing the ATI drivers system perforamce took a dive, as did the graphics caablilitys (lots of large squares, or lines accross screen as it refreshed the image)

Removing the ATI driver improved preformance and resolved some graphix issues, but its still poorer than a clean install (Civ 3 is choppy!)

Somthing else I noticed is that XP64 does not have Open GL Drivers (neither does the ATI Catalyst 64) am currently working to resolve so I can play Return to castle wolfeinstien.

Update on the AV front: still no takers from any of hte manufactures (at least no replys to my inquerys) Have already recived 3 e-mail viruses, hopefully they had no impact as Im using thunderbird. One did try to execute on recipt, but it crashed itself, maby it doesn't understand 64 bit? This is probaly the biggest hold up to wide scale deployment.

[RejectionMan]

Its a been a while since i updated this, additonal findings as follows:

Upgrading to 2 GB of RAM accross 4 512 MB sticks seems to have reduced performance. more than likly due to hardware limitations resulting in speed reduction to 333 from 400.

The only CD/DVD writing software that will work on 64 is Nero.

Still no AV software for 64.

Im jumping ship to Slackware 10.1 today, so this will be the last update for XP 64

[Ferrit]

You havent looked too hard
Avast is completely 64 bit compatible
The ati drivers for 64 are really good in mine
HIS 9600XT
Think you need to realize this is a BETA
yes beta and a lot of things that will work in final arent enabled

[Duke of Rezin]

Is there a 1 gb (min) of RAM requirement? Is there still System Restore? I've been thinking about installing it on my laptop once its released but I need to make sure it will fly. I guess some Googling is in order.

[RejectionMan]

Duke:
XP 64 is basicaly the same as XP Pro. no significant hardware requirements other than needing a 64 bit CPU.

Ferrit:
No i did not look to hard for the AV out side of the big players. Havent used Avasts product on 32 bit so anything iget form 64 would not be very insightful.

My ATI 7500 AIW sucks dog nuts on 64 bit drivers, even Civilization 3 has problems (pixilation at 2x2 inch during the intro video, regularly has slow performance)

I understand that this is a BETA product, and am just sharing what I have found in my config with the comunity. It is not my intent to slam the product or associated Apps but provide INFO to anyone looking to use, using, or also having interesting problems.. aka what is normal under config X for BETA product Y??? What should we expect to be resolved in produciton? what do we do if it is still a problem in production(fixes that worked in BETA)?