Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : what is a pyramid scheme
ligtu2
March 17th, 2005, 11:53 AM
what is a pyramid scheme everyone? and is this one http://www.ezlaptop.com/ get a sony laptop for $5?i signup up for thats why i'am asking
can anyone my question please please please
Ya_know
March 17th, 2005, 11:58 AM
Sony Laptop for $5...this has got to = teh scam.
Dude, if it's asking for credit card info, and you've given it up, I'm sorry for ya...you've been cloned :redeyes:
ligtu2
March 17th, 2005, 12:01 PM
Sony Laptop for $5...this has got to = teh scam.
Dude, if it's asking for credit card info, and you've given it up, I'm sorry for ya...you've been cloned :redeyes:
Dude, if it's asking for credit card info, and you've given it up, I'm sorry for ya...you've been cloned?what?
Matridom
March 17th, 2005, 12:04 PM
After reading each e-mail sent to you, click the activation link which will then deposit credits into your account right away.
They collect enough money through click adds/possible spyware till they have paid for the laptop.
geoscomp
March 17th, 2005, 12:32 PM
In consideration for the services and products ("service") purchased by you and provided to you by us, you agree to pay us at the time the membership is provided. Payment is to be made by you providing a valid credit card for charge by us or our affiliate billing agency, and is non-refundable. If for any reason we are unable to charge your credit card or our third party billing company with the full amount owed us for the service provided, or if we are charged back for any fee we previously charged to the credit card you provided, you agree that we may pursue all available remedies in order to obtain payment. You agree and understand that we sell better market eBooks and memberships to our members area, it's associated licenses, and not any type of other merchandise. You understand and agree that upon purchase you will be provided with a membership to our site in order to download your eBook that are downloadable purchase in non-refundable form after purchasing.
So you give them a credit card, they can use your card and charge things to you..and you have no recourse since you have already told them that :
If for any reason we are unable to charge your credit card or our third party billing company with the full amount owed us for the service provided, or if we are charged back for any fee we previously charged to the credit card you provided, you agree that we may pursue all available remedies in order to obtain payment.
ligtu2
March 17th, 2005, 12:47 PM
So you give them a credit card, they can use your card and charge things to you..and you have no recourse since you have already told them that :
oh crup how if used paypal and pay credit card?
ligtu2
March 17th, 2005, 12:50 PM
They collect enough money through click adds/possible spyware till they have paid for the laptop.
what do you mean?
NooNoo
March 17th, 2005, 01:11 PM
ligtu, what this means is that if you made a mistake, you are going to pay. Call your credit card company / paypal and find out if they can block it.
ligtu2
March 17th, 2005, 03:06 PM
ligtu, what this means is that if you made a mistake, you are going to pay. Call your credit card company / paypal and find out if they can block it.
i can't block it was tooking off already and the only thing do watch my credit card statements to see if any more money is tooking off thats all can do now
Ya_know
March 17th, 2005, 03:20 PM
i can't block it was tooking off already and the only thing do watch my credit card statements to see if any more money is tooking off thats all can do now
Not true. You can contact your credit card fraud department; tell them you need to get this handled. Start the process now, they will probably require you to contact the scam company and ask for a good faith cancellation, once you do that, or attempt to and get told you can't, then go back to the credit card company to have them straighten this out. Be assertive, if the desired requests aren't fulfilled, demand that they be. Remember, you are the customer, and they have to provide you satisfactory service!!! They should be able to credit your account the $5 too…
iceman
March 17th, 2005, 03:31 PM
I've often wondered how these guys make money.... :eek2:
Run away ligtu2- Run away... and call your CC company ASAP
BTW any relation to Mod_King there?
gazzak
March 17th, 2005, 05:37 PM
If it sounds too good to be true then guess what? You're not the first to be stung online, and you won't be the last. As long as you learn from it then it's almost worth the $5!
TripleRLtd
March 17th, 2005, 09:59 PM
ligtu posted this in Hot Hot Deals and asked for more volunteers. I deleted the thread and pm'd him to explain why I did that, because I knew he didn't "understand" the scam. After all, he has posted here before for help and is not your typical spammer. He really wants to learn.
After several pm's he apologized and I told him he should post the question in the lounge about scams and schemes and see what the membership thought about it. Now he knows.:thumbs:
confus-ed
March 18th, 2005, 03:39 AM
ligtu posted this in Hot Hot Deals and asked for more volunteers. I deleted the thread and pm'd him to explain why I did that, because I knew he didn't "understand" the scam. After all, he has posted here before for help and is not your typical spammer. He really wants to learn.
After several pm's he apologized and I told him he should post the question in the lounge about scams and schemes and see what the membership thought about it. Now he knows.:thumbs:
Hey look, Trip actually gets to do some modding & despite all the various 'howls' he seems to be taking care of matters just fine :thumbs:
.. but thinking about it ;) .. maybe this thread wants a warning put into the top post ?? (Trip can't do that now, we'll have to see what Noo thinks) as that link doesn't appear to be a pyramid scheme at all, but just a straight forward con, so I'd suggest this may still be some ruse - as its 'mission accomplished' for the poster as their thread remains, complete with what everyone seems sure is an 'iffy link' !!
& I definately have noted Trips use of "understand" .. but not being privvy to the conversation its hard to judge ..
Ya_know
March 18th, 2005, 07:01 AM
Valid point -ed. A pyramid scheme this is not...just a run of the mill con :thumbs:
iceman
March 18th, 2005, 08:12 AM
Kinda funny they knew how to call it a pyramid scheme.
scheme http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3Dscheme) ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (skhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gifm)
n.
A systematic plan of action: “Did you ever carry out your scheme of writing a series of sonnets embodying all the great epochs of art?” (Edith Wharton).
A secret or devious plan; a plot. See Synonyms at plan (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plan).
An orderly combination of related parts: an irrigation scheme with dams, reservoirs, and channels.
A chart, diagram, or outline of a system or object.
TripleRLtd
March 18th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Run of the mill scheme or scam it is not. Any time a scheme like this draws in unsuspecting "investors", it is for real. They are obviously making money off of this, and bilking regular folks out of their hard earned money.
Perhaps it is not the typical Pyramid Scheme, but these scammers have a way of changing the old tried and true methods of bilking people out of money with new twists on what has always worked before.
Pyramid Scheme:
http://www.dsa.org/selling/pyramid.htm
Ironic, too, that Yahoo Tech Tuesday had an article about the top five online scams this week:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ttpcworld/20050310/tc_techtues_pcworld/119941&cid=1740&ncid=1729
We've been getting a lot of these lately:
5. "Congratulations, You've Won an Xbox (IPod, plasma TV, etc.)"
The setup: You get an e-mail telling you that you've won something cool--usually the hot gadget du jour, such as an Xbox or an IPod. All you need to do is visit a Web site and provide your debit card number and PIN to cover "shipping and handling" costs.
What actually happens: The item never arrives. A few months later, mystery charges start showing up on your bank account. The only thing that gets shipped and handled is your identity. (A more benign variation on this scam drives you to a site where you're asked to cough up your contact info and agree to receive spam from advertisers until unwanted e-mail is coming out of your ears.)
The risk: Identity theft, as well as lost money if you don't dispute the charges.
The question you've gotta ask yourself: When did I enter a contest to win an Xbox (iPod, plasma TV, etc.)?
So, ligtu, come back and let us know how this all turns out for you. Tell us if you've had your money returned or not. Make this a learning experiece for yourself as well as others.
ligtu2
March 18th, 2005, 09:45 AM
yea i learn don't signup or buy something unless i no the facts about it first thank you all for help me learn that thanks