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frip
September 21st, 2005, 09:45 AM
So are GM and Ford on the way out, or to paraphrase Mark Twain has news of their death been greatly exaggerated? :( With IBM selling out their PC side to Lenovo, and another Chinese company's failed bid for Unocal 76, can US industry recover? :confused:


Domestic (http://www.er3.com/firebird/67firebirdT.htm)

http://www.cogulus.com/archive/charger/simpsons/bandit/tilt001.jpg

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Import (http://www.luk-korbmacher.de/Autos/Honda/Kleinwagen/City/city1turbo.htm)

http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/civic/cv-ka1-210a/image/cvc02top.jpg
TechZ
September 21st, 2005, 10:51 AM
Those new Chevy Aveo's and other small cars, are basically Daewoo's as well.
confus-ed
September 22nd, 2005, 06:01 AM
Chinese Man work velly cheap mister ! - only two bowls of rice !!

Dirty capitalist imperialist American pig wants a big fat car, big fat house & big fat wage packet .. :devil:
TechZ
September 22nd, 2005, 06:12 AM
Chinese Man work velly cheap mister ! - only two bowls of rice !!

Dirty capitalist imperialist American pig wants a big fat car, big fat house & big fat wage packet .. :devil:
but how long will those big cars last ;)

people now want "efficient" japanese auto's, after seeing the gas prices, who blames them :)
confus-ed
September 22nd, 2005, 06:30 AM
Chinese man velly cheap, he only copy though .. Japanese man, now he velly, velly smart ... lookee what he makes :-

Team 'Fancy Carol' (Japan) achieved a fuel consumption of 0.025237 l/100 km (11,193.135 mpg) around a 19.2 km (11.9 mile) course during the Super Mileage Car Contest 2003 at the Hiroshima License Centre, Japan, on August 24, 2003

HOW MUCH ? That's the same as getting from London to Melbourne on a gallon of Juice !!!!

Source:Guiness book of world records (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/)

No room for the shopping though ! Maybe two bowls of rice ? ;)
http://www.motorsnippets.com/cars/shell_eco_marathon_July_2002/graphics/tnails/shell_eco_winner.jpg
frip
September 22nd, 2005, 08:50 AM
Some parallel between GM, Ford management and the US videogame industry in the early 80s. The market was saturated with consoles, games and the coin op arcade side. Management just thought the market was bottomless and everyday was Christmas (Atari's Ray "the czar" Kassar), but they were wrong. Today we have 3 console platforms. In 1983/84 there were six I can think of off hand. That fueled the 1984 crash.With the car world the equivalent is GM and Ford loading up the bases with big SUVs, lol. :p