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Potato Salad
October 13th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Hey all building a new PC here and wanted to know what you guys think of it.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/BuyLaterCart.asp

There is no HD or optical drives because im keeping the ones from my old comp.
And im getting a PentD 3.0 with asus mob. Im getting those two as a combo deal (half off wholesale price).Because i went to the Portland ICC intel thingy.

Ferrit
October 14th, 2005, 01:15 AM
Your saved shopping cart is empty.

Apparently yer new computer has already been stolen
:flame:

philski27
October 14th, 2005, 04:21 AM
wasn't me....honest!!

confus-ed
October 14th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Apparently yer new computer has already been stolen


Lol :D .. more likely I think his session expired as its an 'asp' generated page, but ta for starting my day with a smile ! :thumbs2:

Ferrit
October 14th, 2005, 09:43 AM
Lol :D .. more likely I think his session expired as its an 'asp' generated page, but ta for starting my day with a smile ! :thumbs2:

Yes obviously it timed out but I couldnt resist :thumbs2:

3fingersalute
October 14th, 2005, 10:23 AM
hey, at least its an affordable price !

rgharper
October 14th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Yeah maybe, but are the parts listed worth the investment?

NooNoo
October 15th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Poor Potato, he is still finding his feet.

List your hardware and provide links (if you want) to the actual pages rather than a shopping cart - shopping carts are not designed to be shared.

confus-ed
October 15th, 2005, 09:41 AM
.. shopping carts are not designed to be shared.

& they seem to be designed to steer any-which-way they like :devil: , but that might be physical shopping carts & not the kind you mean ! :eek2:

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Revamped due to demand
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1712613&WishListTitle=Revamped
BAD LINK AGAIN damit.

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 04:08 PM
Ill take Noo Noo's advice and list the links.
Videocard: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130215
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820227042
1Gig of course
Case: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811166004
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817148006

CPU Fan: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835118115
Screw stock fans.

[COLOR=Red]CPU: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/ShoppingItem.asp?ItemList=N82E16819116212
Take off 120$
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131538
HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148069
Free because i already have it :P
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827135043
Free again
Misc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835100008

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Poor Potato, he is still finding his feet.

I managed to find my feet as well. They were scooped out of the my fake glass bowl and carted off by your average joe.

TechZ
October 16th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Very nice specs. Congrats :)

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 05:25 PM
TY Techz. And as always TY Noo Noo for thinking for me:P

confus-ed
October 16th, 2005, 07:12 PM
I started adding it up .. then it just scared me too much :eek2: :D !

I see lots of systems that 'home folks' design this way, & I always tut a bit & think, disk performance is the bottleneck, spend your money there & on as much memory as you can cram in, if you want real performance, 'cos if all you are bothered about is fps, then just wait for the new x-box or the ps3 ..

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 07:15 PM
Its going to cost me about 700$ for the parts i dont have. Excluding the ones i already do. Pllus that combo its all going to cost roughly like 950$ which isnt super bad.

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Anyways was thinking aboiut doing 2 gigs of ram depending on my next pay check.

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 07:21 PM
If you guys have any suggestions to hard ware changes i have an access of 200$ to spend.

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 07:24 PM
'home folks'

Define "home folks"
:flame:

rgharper
October 16th, 2005, 08:02 PM
If you have an excess of $200 to spend, let me give you my shipping address, eh? :devil:

Drop back a bit on the video card and invest the money saved in more RAM. I agree with -ed on this one, you will never see the difference in frame rate between a lower-class 6800 and the one you have spec'd; but adding another gig of memory will definitely pay off almost immediately with any game released since Pac-Man. :)

confus-ed
October 16th, 2005, 08:13 PM
Well if you were using this for business you wouldn't spend nearly 1/3 of your money on a video card unless you were doing cad..

one thing I would have for sure that you haven't got if I was building a gaming rig, is a dedicated sound card, which appears to be missing ?

Potato Salad
October 16th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Ah i forgot to post that. Im pulling a sound blaster audigy 2 out of my old computer and throwing it in the new one.

This is the card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102163

confus-ed
October 17th, 2005, 03:45 AM
One last 'little gripe' then, now we've gotten most of the notions about where money is best spent accross ;) -50 odd bucks on a fan ? You cannot be serious ! :D - This really does bemuse me - stock fans that come with retail cpu's are generally quite good enough unless you are 'really' bothered about noise (after all they are endorsed by the cpu manufacturer), & if you say 'more/better cooling' then I've got to question the airflow in the case ..

& who are 'aspire' ? I've never come accross 'em - I'm most particular about psu's, as if that gives you trouble then your whole system may be in trouble ;) (they might be 'good' - I dunno, but this is one component, I want to be very sure about indeed, as everything *is* dependent on this :thumbs: )

MD-KiKi
October 17th, 2005, 12:15 PM
For me :
Mobo : asus, good like always :p
CPU : Mmm DUAL CORE ? Really usefull ? (Do you'll use a lot of software who use dual core ? <== actually 0 softwares use it :p)
Same for 64 bits :p (except some linux like Redhat and UNIX Solaris)

DDR : Mmm DDR2 is slow for me (CAS5 - 6 or more !!!) (Mayeb a good CAS2 DDR1 'll be better !!)

For the rest, i say no prob :)

Maybe save a little money on the CPU/RAM and get a very good HDD (like a RAPTOR 10,000 RPM !)
Don't forget the CPU and RAM is so much more fast than the HDD !
The only slow peripherical in your comp is the hard disk drive ! (and I/O :p)

Ferrit
October 17th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Actually 64bit software is coming at a pretty decent clip these days
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ComputingSolutions/0,,30_288_7146_10983%5E11117,00.htm
Some software was Dual cpu ready quite some time ago
Adobe stuff comes to mind
Both of these will develop very fast in the next 6 months to a year

TechZ
October 17th, 2005, 03:35 PM
DDR2 cannot be directly compared to DDR1 in terms of timings. Many people assume that because the CAS timings are so much higher on DDR2, that makes it slower, but you need to take into account the higher bandwidth, the much higher frequency.

rgharper
October 17th, 2005, 09:13 PM
Actually 64bit software is coming at a pretty decent clip these days
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ComputingSolutions/0,,30_288_7146_10983%5E11117,00.htm
Some software was Dual cpu ready quite some time ago
Adobe stuff comes to mind
Both of these will develop very fast in the next 6 months to a year

Actually, no software needs to be "dual-CPU ready" - if the operating system supports it (every version of Windows since Windows 2000 does, with the possible exception of XP Home Edition) that's all you need. The operating system deals with allocating threads to the two processors and the apps neither need to, nor want to, know anything about it.

confus-ed
October 18th, 2005, 04:23 AM
Actually, no software needs to be "dual-CPU ready" ..

No so says I, you can definately write code 'better' for it ...

I know what you are saying in that, from the users point of view everything should be transparent & the o/s should take care of it, but if you design your code in a truely procedural way & take advantage of concepts like encapsulation ('nasty c' programmers take note!) you can help out the o/s a lot.

El_Squid
October 18th, 2005, 10:10 AM
No so says I, you can definately write code 'better' for it ...GASP! Surely you are not implying programmers can write better, tighter code to improve functionality! What is the world coming to? :p ;)

NooNoo
October 18th, 2005, 04:11 PM
I'm just getting into multithreaded synchronised apps in Java... my head hurts...

confus-ed
October 18th, 2005, 08:02 PM
... my head hurts...

It will ! ;) .. but once you've really got the idea about OO 'properly', its temendously powerful & definately the way stuff should be programmed & not as it is now in many windows apps, with a 'bit of this & a bit of that to fix the this' :thumbs:

NooNoo
October 19th, 2005, 01:21 PM
right add to that object databases fronted by oo programs or object relational databases described in UML and you begin to see the scope of my headache...

Potato Salad
October 20th, 2005, 08:32 PM
-50 odd bucks on a fan ? You cannot be serious ! :D


I would use the stock fan if i wasnt going to overclock the crap out of that dual-core :P

El_Squid
October 21st, 2005, 09:52 AM
Hey, another post that missed it by that much! With a quote even! :p