Transfering video tapes to dvd-roms...

[king_of_the_world]

Hello there!
This is king_of the_world ! :thumbs2:

I have over 100 old video-cassetes.
I also have a Sempron 3000+ ram512 with a video card(video_in included in it).
So I thought I should transfer all tape's data in dvd-roms, then throw those tapes away.
The problem is that, although I have tried, I cant find which is the proper cables for this job. Could u plz tell me and with images, if possible?

Thank u so much ! :p
king_of_the_world


PS. I also want to make threads about RAM and games fraps, in which headline can i post them?

[BOB IROC]

What is the video card you are using? If the card has video capture capabilities usually the manufacturer supplies the cables. Are you sure its just not video out? A little more details would be helpful.

[jitBob]

Buy one of these (http://www.pcclub.com/product_details.cfm?itemno=A1576603) and have it easy.

[slgrieb]

Hey, KoW, do you know what video card your computer has? Sometimes, you may have a card with video in/out, but no connector for it! OEM versions of many cards don't include the connectors and cables you get with the retail-boxed versions of the same card. If you can tell us a bit more info, I'm sure we can get you set up with the right cables.

[king_of_the_world]

U can see my card in these links. The card, the cable, the remote contol, the cd-roms, all are shown in the links

http://www.zive.sk/h/TestCentrum/AR.asp?ARI=111437
or
http://www.pcmanias.com/index.php?link=news&show_n_id=428
or
http://www.xpcgear.com/asustvfmcard.html

Unfortunately i have not understood yet, how exacly I connect it with my old video player, in order to take data from the video cassetes. The cable seems to be strange.

Plz, inform me also, unter which headline should i post threads about 1)Rams 2)Games fps
Thanks.

[king_of_the_world]

Well...
No any answer. I wrote all info about card as U asked me buT seems I wont be able to transfer video cassetes to dvd-roms. Is it so difficult indeed?...

[BOB IROC]

I do it all the time using my ATI All in Wonder. I also have a USB2 Capture device that seems to work rather well for analog video. For Simple movies I just use VideoWave that came with Roxio, but I also have Premiere and DVD Encore by Adobe for the more advanced stuff.

[slgrieb]

Hello, KoW! Please remember that not everyone on the forum is in the same time zone. Also work sometimes interferes with my fun.

Your card certainly looks to support video capture, and there should be a driver for it included with the card. You can do basic video capture directly into Windows Movie Maker, but most cards with video-in have their own software. Anyway, it should be fairly simple to capture the video to your hard drive. The sticky part is what to do with it then.

Actually whatever DVD burning software you have can put the video file on a DVD that will play in a computer's DVD drive, but if you want the disc to play in a standard DVD player, that's a bit harder. You will need some sort of DVD authoring program. If your card didn't come with one, you can use Nero Vision Express, Roxio Media Creator TMPGEnc DVD Author, etc. to create the DVD file structure from your video file. If any of this is unclear, get back to us.

[king_of_the_world]

MY PROBLEM is how to connect the old video player machine to my computer. I m not talking for software, I m talking for the CABLES.

[Sandwich]

The cable choice will depend open what your vcr supports. What outs does your vcr have? take the output and then you'll probably need an s video connector into your video card. :thumbs:

[confus-ed]

..MY PROBLEM is how to connect the old video player machine to my computer. I m not talking for software, I m talking for the CABLES...

Steady Neddy, I at least am hearing you ;) & Apparently we do polish language support now do we ? (its a good job all them links had pictures ! :thumbs2: )

Here's the cable
http://www.zive.sk/Files/Obrazky/TestCentrum/2004/ASUS_TV_FM_Card/xredukcia.jpg

Take the single 'fat end' on the left, that goes into your video card (that's an 's-video' connector) then either connect the other s-video direct into your video if its got a matching socket (some do, some don't & have an earlier style connector a 'dim socket') or you get the yellow & white wires which are commonly called 'rca jacks' & plug them into the appropriate colour coded ports on your video (you might need a male to female connector).

If there's none of those ports I'm waffling about on your video, it might have a scart connector & you can buy little adapters (£5 ? ish) which let you plug rca jacks into them & then in turn the scart connector to your video.

If all else fails get your behind to somewhere like radioshack (or in the uk maybe maplins or similar) & explain all of this to them, & take the cables with you, & I'm confident they can explain it, whilst selling you any bits you may be short of :).

Let us know how you get on !

[slgrieb]

KoW, you actually seem to have the required cable in hand already! So what's the problem? Your video card obviously has an S-video connector for input, so just as -ed says, plug in the connector that combines everything and match the other connectors to your VCR. All you have to do is match the colors for RCA connectors, or in the case of S-video connectors just get the gender of plug right.

You might also want to keep my previous post about software issues in mind, because, somehow, I suspect you are perhaps going to need a bit more help as you move forward with your project. HINT: the cables are the easy part.

[king_of_the_world]

Yes, this cable is already in my hands(included).
I used a scart cable (scart connected to the video at the one side and pairs of yellow, red, white plugs at the other, which i connected with the cable).
This time I had result and I was able to capture movie(7 minutes=100MB).
Unfortunately the were NO SOUND :sad: I wonder why.

The system I use is Sempron 3000+, Ram 512MB. Is it enough for such work?

[confus-ed]

Right so it wasn't you being 'thick' then & not having your speakers plugged in ? (an answer just disappeared !)

Another possibility for 'no sound' is that the scart converter you've got isn't wired right, or that you still haven't wired it right yourself.

Each of those coloured rca jacks is for a portion of the signal, if I'm remembering right, yellow is for the video portion, & then white & red are for left & right stereo channels, try some experimentation with the wires in different places..

We are getting issue because of having to use a converter.

[king_of_the_world]

ok with the colour little plugs. But what about the other? (the black one at the right) Do i connect it too?
(the post was disappeared by me as soon as i checked that this was not the problem)

[confus-ed]

If you are telling me that there's an svideo connector on your video player, then just use s-video both ends, that carries both sound & video in ONE wire :) (if there isn't just ignore it, we are 'hampered' by what's available on the video player)

(using the rca jacks instead is splitting the signal up into bits)

[king_of_the_world]

Listen...dont use words like "rca" or "svideo connector" because I dont understand them. U ll help if u answer my exact questions.
I explained what exackly i connected and what result i have.
My old video player has only RF port and 2 scarts.
I used the cable shown. I connected the colour small plugs and I have picture but no sound. Do I need to connect also the other black plug onto my TV(theres such port).

[confus-ed]

Listen...

Starting replies like that won't generally endear you to folks, who are already trying to help you, I do appreciate stuff is difficult, when you don't really understand - but its not that I understand any better, as I can't see what you can & am effectively guessing what might be best based on your description. When, if I could see it myself, I might answer much quicker & 'better' !

..Do I need to connect also the other black plug onto my TV(theres such port).

If you have a suitable place to plug the 'fat plug' into your tv, plug that 'fat one' into your TV & put the other 'fat one' into your video card & then connect your vcr 'as normal' to your TV & that should work (no need to connect any of the other thinner wires at all in that case)

[king_of_the_world]

Unfortunately I didnt understand much of your previous msg...why dont u just answer my last question(already twiced asked)??

U confuse me...The "fat plug" goes to the video_in as already said and did. If u mean the left plug as shown in image. I said I cant recognize which is the rca. I m asking for the right "fat plug"....

[confus-ed]

http://farnsworthelectronics.com/part%20images/s%20video%20plug%20connector.jpg

That's an s-video connector, what I keep calling a 'fat one' in effort to simplify matters .

http://www.cutpricecables.co.uk/images/svideosocket.jpg

& that's an S-video socket (where it goes)

You said you had an s-video socket on your TV - so plug your TV to your PC, & then connect your vcr to the TV, whatever you can see on your TV will be what it records.

[king_of_the_world]

well, I just connected this s-video connector also.
Still have no sound....

[king_of_the_world]

So...no one has achieved to connect his video with pc???
Sad...

[BOB IROC]

You sound awful rude to people who are trying to help you. If you do not understand the terminology then maybe you just need to take your tapes to a company that can transfer them for you. It is difficult for anyone to help you if you cannot describe the problem accurately. The equipment you provided links for should do what you want, but seeing as we cannot see your set up it makes it difficult to walk you through the procedure especially if you do not understand what is being said. From the replies I have read I see that many people have attempted to provide you assistance and all you do is come back with rude comments and call us sad. If I was a mod of this thread I would close it and leave you on your own.

[king_of_the_world]

You sound awful rude to people who are trying to help you
no,u sound awful rude when all u have to say is the monotonous"....blablabla people who r trying to help u" No more blabla, its the help i want,not the monotonous useless speech.
If you do not understand the terminology then maybe you just need to take your tapes to a company that can transfer them for youthanks for your advise, u really give me a great help. Is this what u call"person who is a trying to help me"?....
It is difficult for anyone to help you if you cannot describe the problem accuratelyI described the point in full details..what else do u want, shout?:
I NEED HAVE SOUND! WHICH CABLE DO I NEED T0O HAVE SOUND? Its a simple i think question, apparently the problem is that no one of u knows it.
From the replies I have read I see that many people have attempted to provide you assistance and all you do is come back with rude comments and call us sadNo, u say lies on purpose. I did what they asked me.But i received no reply.Read the whole thread more carefully. The only rude here is u, to me.
If I was a mod of this thread I would close it and leave you on your own.Ιf i was a mod of this thread, I would throw u out of here, because I m sure, u use to make such useless posts. I advise u respect other people's time.Dont make me again waste time to answer in your flames, thanks.

[BOB IROC]

See thats exactly what I am talking about. Insulting me or anyone because you are frustrated is no way to get help. You have to understand that in the computer world it is sometimes extremely difficult to understand a problem without seeing it. Do you call your auto mechanic and say my car is making a noise and assume he knows what you are talking about? No!

The TV Tuner Capture card you have will capture the video, but if you want audio then the audio needs to be routed through your sound card. If you consult your user manual on the TV tuner card you will see that there is a little white jack that is designed to take the audio captured from the card and route it through your sound card. If that cable is not connected then you will get no sound in your captures. Information from ASUS on this card can be found here http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?model=ASUS TV FM 7133(NTSC)&SLanguage=en-us.

Word of advise, it is not very friendly of you to accuse people for being sad or accuse them of lying. I have been an active member of these forums for years and never have been treated with such ignorance. You need to act more mature and have a little patience with people that are trying to help you.

[king_of_the_world]

Of course I have connected that small cable, at the first time, when installed the card in pci.
And no more kerygma plz...
If u know which cables do i need, put here their images, this is how u ll help. Take a look at mine also.(the one Confus-ed put)
And one more I want to know,is if u ever did this job(connect vcr to pc) yourself.

[BOB IROC]

And one more I want to know,is if u ever did this job(connect vcr to pc) yourself.

Yes, I have done this many times using my ATI All-in Wonder TV Tuner Card. I record my Satellite TV and have converted many tapes to DVD.

If you have everything connected properly, then there may be something else you are doing wrong. We cannot provide pictures for everything because every computer is different. I would consult the user install manual for the TV Tuner card and your PC's motherboard and verify all your connections are right. Other than that its hard to tell what you are doing wrong. Maybe Asus tech support can walk you through a few things. This is the last time I will respond as you are a little demanding for my taste. Good luck.

[king_of_the_world]

Dont worry because of maybe i have different material.
Just tell me WHICH cables u use and WHERE u put them.
And with images.
This is how u ll help :thumbs2:
(Looking at your signature, i see we have in common...Two pc,one for video editing and another one as "good" one. Which program do u use for"video editing"? i saw that 7' of video playing is 100Mb of HD space.Can this be improved?)

[confus-ed]

Of course I have connected that small cable, at the first time, when installed the card in pci.

Did you set the advanced properties of your soundcard at the same time ?

http://www.image.ufl.edu/help/audio/win_sound.gif

[Atodini]

I have "converted" a number of my old VHS cassettes to DVD. As kotw did I was unable to get sound on some of my tapes using any combination of direct cable connection..... the reason being is that before Nicam or super VHS, video recorders carried the sound signal as a mono analogue recording along one edge of the actual tape, not digitally encoded as is now the norm. Being a simple analogue signal the sound on these tapes is not picked up by direct cable connections as it is not ported to the scart socket!!

I overcame the problem by fitting a cheap TV card, then connecting the vcr to it by an aerial cable, tuning the card into the vcr, linking the audio output on the TV card to the line-in on my sound card, then recording each cassette onto the computer (in real time), finishing by conversion & burning to dvd. The quality was not as good but acceptable for me.

The direct cable connection works fine for later tapes recorded on my present Panasonic Nicam recorder though.

John

[king_of_the_world]

Plz Confus_ed,
You didnt tell where to connect the S_video connector cable.
You posted an image of it. I ask u but you dont answer me.
I have this cable but dont connect it.
Heres my cable
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2539/xredukcia16tt.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xredukcia16tt.jpg)
The left end goes to Asus TV FM card,the other 3 at the right(red-yellow-white) match with this
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/664/images1ty4ki.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(scart goes to video player)
So, the point is WHERE do I put the S-VHS import?
My TV has a socket for it and as I said I connected it there, without result.But is this the right socket? on TV?

[king_of_the_world]

Well, case solved... :mult:
I had voice, but didnt set it right from the program!
Could happen to anyone...:thumbs2:
The S-video connector was not necessary. I use just the cables which are in the 2 images I posted in my previous msg.

Now I have other matters. I need 100MB for just 6 minutes! Is there any way to compress the space? (without losing quality)
Which is the best program which u suggest me?

And one more point. This pc has just dvd-r, so i cant burn dvd discs. But I have another one pc with dvd-rw. Is there any cable to connect the 2 pc in order to transfer files?

[joker j]

I doubt if you will recieve help and if you do recieve help then I shall be amazed. :D
You need to network the computers. So what type of computers are you trying to network? Win98, WinXP, etc.?

Explanations will be needed.

[king_of_the_world]

Why u doubt? Is everybody ignorant here? :rolleyes:
I want the right cable(at least 3-4 meters) to connect 2 PCs. Not internet. Just in order to tranfer data (video files, many GBs) from one to the other.
They told me about this cable, which goes to ethernet ports of each pc. Is it right? Do I need any settings or programs? (Win XP pro SP2).
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4808/2845216sv.th.gif (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2845216sv.gif)

[Sandwich]

Hey "King"!
Theoretically you can connect 2 computers with an ethernet crossover cable. I've had no luck in doing it though. :grin:

[leezer3]

Set a static IP for both PCs (Same subnet), and turn off the Windoze firewall and away you go. (Remember to have some stuff shared though!)

Works every time.

-Leezer-

[king_of_the_world]

Tried but no result...
Can I do my job with usb?

[joker j]

USB? Never heard of such. Maybe you can maybe you can't.
There are smart people here and well I do not know much about computers I am learning, That is why I come here. That and if I ever need any help.
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=84183

Read there. That person was trying to connect two computers using a crossove cable so this should prove helpful. And there is a very detailed explanation in a post there so try that.

[PBase001]

Networking two computers...

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/a/connecttwocomp.htm

Video encoding software

http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/

[pc user]

Well, I used a crossover wire and put on SP2 in the second pc. Now its ok!
I transfer 3GB in 5 minutes.

For video encoding I use CynerLink Power Director 3, which gives me 1GB for 1 hour of video, with same picture's quality(mpeg-1, I also tried mpeg-2 which needs more space, but i saw no different result).
Does that VirtualDub offers something better?

[PBase001]

Other than being free? Depending on what encoding you want to use.

If you plan to use your video in standalone VCD or DVD players, than MPEG and MPEG2 is a safer bet. There are standalone CD/DVD players that supports MPEG4 encoding as well.

Guides abound at videohelp.com for those that want to figure it out on their own.