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kolokythaki
November 25th, 2006, 03:04 AM
I want make a floppy disk in order to instal XP Pro SP2 in a Sata-2 HD.
(Mobo recognize it as Sata-1)
Where can I find latest files?
Or I could use the ones which are in mobo's cd-rom?

Mobo is Asus A8V Deluxe 2.0, agp, bios 1017
(VIA K8T800Pro - VIA VT8237)

Ferrit
November 25th, 2006, 07:28 AM
They are most definetly on the cd that came with the motherboard and here

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=A8V%20Deluxe

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 09:53 AM
I followed the course with that floppy and now I have XP Pro on that sata (WD, 8mb cache, 160GB)
I also have a Maxtor (sata, 16mb cache, 300GB) which will use as storage room.
Also there is an IDE HD (WD, 80GB) which I ll throw it away.

Theres one Bios question:
Advanced - On board Devices Configuration - Onboard Promise Controller
if [enabled] there are 2 options: [RAID mode], [Onboard IDE Operate Mode]
What do I choose?

NooNoo
November 27th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Do you want to use RAID? raid tutorial here (http://www.ecs.umass.edu/ece/koren/architecture/Raid/raidhome.html)

Ferrit
November 27th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Why would you throw a perfectly good Ide drive away? Unless it is damaged?
Always a use for them, like a test drive to look at new windows(vista)

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 03:32 PM
No, I do not want use RAID (Dont even have 2 same satas)
Plz tell me what to choose in that BIOS option:
Advanced - On board Devices Configuration - Onboard Promise Controller
if [enabled] there are 2 options: [RAID mode], [Onboard IDE Operate Mode]
What do I choose?

geoscomp
November 27th, 2006, 03:36 PM
Well, if you don't want to use raid, you dont choose raid..leave it at ide option

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Ok... even if I have 2 sata disks u tell me to choose [Onboard IDE Operate Mode]...
right?

What do u mean "leave it"? Is there this option by default?

geoscomp
November 27th, 2006, 03:56 PM
unless you are using raid, you don't set it to raid regardless of how many disks you use. If you set it to raid, you have to use raid

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 04:09 PM
One more time:
I do not use RAID. Dont even have 2 same satas.

Maybe I should not put that option (Advanced - On board Devices Configuration - Onboard Promise Controller) as [enabled] ?

Does makes any difference if i have satas and ide HDs in my system? Or only satas?

geoscomp
November 27th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Does makes any difference if i have satas and ide HDs in my system? Or only satasno..they are on two different controllers.
Maybe I should not put that option (Advanced - On board Devices Configuration - Onboard Promise Controller) as [enabled] ? that option tells the sata controller if you want it to function in a raid mode, or if you want it to function as an ide type controller..for example with a master and a slave. If you don't enable the promise controller, chanced are the stat drives will not work at all

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 04:24 PM
U r so confused...If they r different controllers then how u say "no difference?!

Still dont understand if I should put that option (Advanced - On board Devices Configuration - Onboard Promise Controller) as enabled or disabled.

What is the difference between function in a raid mode, function in ide type controller
This time I have 2 sata & 1 ide, tomorrow I get rid of 1 ide, this means I ll change the options?

geoscomp
November 27th, 2006, 04:41 PM
I don't think I am the one that is confused. The IDE controller on the motherboard is not part of the sata controller. You can use up to two ide devices per channel of however many ide channels your motherboard has. (usually two) These can be hard drives, zip drives, cd-rom drives, etc. These will work as ide drives regardless of your sata settings. The difference between raid mode and ide type controller has already been explained. If you want to use raid (you don't..I know..I am saying IF for comparison purposes) then you set the sata controller to raid mode. If you want to use your sata drives the way you say you want to use them..with one as the C drive to boot from, and one as the D drive for extra storage or whatever, then you set it to function as an ide type controller..this gives you master and slave drives. If the promise onboard controller is the only sata connection that your motherboard has (and I am pretty sure that is the case) then it has to be enabled to access your sata drives. So..you set the onboard promise controller to enabled, and set the mode to Onboard IDE Operate Mode.

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 04:56 PM
I mean u r confusing me.
Instead of describe me the terminology, its better give me straight answers in my exact questions. Only this way u ll help me.
One more time: I do not, NOT, use Raid.
I do not use raid. Dont even have same satas.
Only I want is get straight answers.

I stay in your last sentence "So..you set the onboard promise controller to enabled, and set the mode to Onboard IDE Operate Mode."
So I ll choose ide operate mode...Even if i do not have any ide disk in my system?

CCT
November 27th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Keep going guys - I have a beer and made popcorn!


:)

geoscomp
November 27th, 2006, 05:11 PM
OK..let me make this as simple as possible..(hey..I want some of that popcorn!) YES YES YES you set it to ide operate mode even if you have no ide drives in your system

kolokythaki
November 27th, 2006, 05:44 PM
Ok, now u r clear. Thanks. Time for CCT to finish his beer.

NooNoo
November 28th, 2006, 04:15 AM
A massive round of applause for Geoscomp!

Garak
November 28th, 2006, 10:21 AM
I missed all the fun. But to recap :)

IDE Operation mode is the setting you want.

kolokythaki
January 8th, 2007, 02:40 AM
I have one more question about this matter... because I m gonna throw away the floppy.
Every time I' ll make Win XP installation to the sata HD, shall I need the floppy drive?
Thanx :) .

CCT
January 8th, 2007, 07:39 AM
It is my understanding that. if you want to install S-ATA drive/s either as Raid or AHCI, you MUST have the S-Ata drivers on a floppy.

If you want to operate your S-Ata drive/s as P-Ata (IDE), then you don't.

NooNoo
January 8th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Or you can slipstream them into a windows xp sp2 cd.... but I have never personally tried that.

constructor
January 9th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I have one more question about this matter... because I m gonna throw away the floppy.
Every time I' ll make Win XP installation to the sata HD, shall I need the floppy drive?
Thanx :) .
I would keep the floppy
Why get rid of it?

Mr_Miyagi
January 9th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Keep going guys - I have a beer and made popcorn!


:)

LOL

:grin:

kolokythaki
January 10th, 2007, 04:14 AM
I would keep the floppy
Why get rid of it?
Because I ll put it in another system which I sell...

Anyway, a floppy drive costs only 5-6€ :p