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Miq
June 22nd, 2007, 08:32 AM
I swear I am about ready to format and go back to XP....

I am trying to make a dban floppy from my vista machine. When it runs, the program formats the floppy then puts its software on it. Vista is giving me access denied errors. UAC is already turned off (it has been since day 2). This is happening with multiple programs, not just dban so it shouldn't be the download. I have also tried many different floppys. Any insight on how to turn this crap off is greatly appreciated.

The exact error is:
Windows Error N. 5
Access is denied.


Then Disk error no 69 on track 0, head 0
Access is denied.


Miq

Ferrit
June 22nd, 2007, 09:43 AM
Hmm strange I made several new sets of 98 bootup disks and ghost boot disks from images just yesterday and no issue other then 1 disk was bad.
I dont think Vista has anything built in to stop making floppy disks.

Drone2903
June 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM
I've seen lots of pc with the write access to floppy turn off in the bios.
If this is a new pc (less than 1 y/o) ...

Miq
June 22nd, 2007, 11:20 AM
I can write stuff to floppys with copy/paste or save as without an issue, but I'll check bios anyways.

I have 3 vista machines in my office and all 3 of them are throwing the same errors in the same places. I took the exact same floppy disk and install program to an XP box and it ran beautifully. I am running Vista Enterprise, I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

Miq

Miq
June 22nd, 2007, 11:29 AM
I think I just found it in local security policy. There is a device setting: Allow users to format ejectable/removable media. It used to be set to Administrators in XP and is left blank in Vista.

-fly-
June 27th, 2007, 05:19 PM
hello Miq

can you tell me where to find this setting ?

tia

Miq
July 2nd, 2007, 03:01 PM
That didn't do it.

That setting is found at:
control panel
administrative tools
local policies
security options
about the 12th option down.

slgrieb
July 3rd, 2007, 01:45 AM
Finding software that craps out trying to make diskettes under newer version of Windows isn't very unusual. I still see lots of programs running under 2000 and XP that are supposed to make bootable diagnostic diskettes and the like which just don't function correctly. So, I doubt that Vista is the real cause. You might find that making a CD or DVD works better. What about the bootalbe pen drive option?

NooNoo
July 3rd, 2007, 02:12 AM
So what floppy making software are you trying to use Miq? (long time no see btw!!)

Miq
July 3rd, 2007, 08:31 AM
I can create cds with DBan no problem, just that it is a bit easier to use a floppy with this rather than a cd. (I also have about 200 old floppy disks that I can use and only a few blank cds). I have yet to have a thumb drive create bootable and actually work.

Hey NooNoo, it has been a while. I am using DBan (http://dban.sourceforge.net)

I wouldn't doubt it being incompatable with Vista, but an access denied error makes me lean towards something in vista blocking access.

NooNoo
July 3rd, 2007, 01:49 PM
Need to get someone with a floppy drive and vista to try this and see if they have the same problem.

rgharper
July 3rd, 2007, 10:20 PM
It doesn't work here, same problem. Error N.5, Access is denied. Same with several other "self-extracting floppy" programs that work fine in Windows XP. I'm guessing that whatever program was used to compile the floppy image isn't Vista compatible.

slgrieb
July 3rd, 2007, 10:33 PM
Who would have ever thought that we'd see a day where software that was supposed to create a boot diskette couldn't do it? Personally, I don't think floppies can die too soon. Anymore, I just make it normal practice to create CDs for any diagnostic software or utility programs, If you have a customer that has trouble booting from one of these CDs, you are way past due to discuss new equipment with them.

rgharper
July 4th, 2007, 06:17 PM
It doesn't work here, same problem. Error N.5, Access is denied.

Someone slap me. Right-click the bugger and select "Run as Administrator" and it works fine, as do all the other diskette-creation programs.:thumbs:

slgrieb
July 4th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Good advice, RG, but I have had trouble with some recent software including Drive Fitness Test that wouldn't make a disk correctly under XP Pro running as an administrator. I haven't tried any of this under Vista yet. I still think some of these programs are just plain flawed.

rgharper
July 5th, 2007, 07:30 AM
No surprise there. I prefer CD/DVD boot discs unless I just plain can't make one with the program in question.