Norton OOOOOPPPPPPs

[xpuser357]

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2229576,00.asp
The above link tells about a Norton antivirus ooops:eek:

[Niclo Iste]

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OK that felt good anyway yep that's why I never liked them I used to call their Norton Crash Guard the Norton Crash Generator. I got so used to calling it that that when I'd do a sale of a PC I would inadvertently tell people the latter name then have to explain myself. Not a bad thing though I never lost a sale of a PC when it happened and I generally ended up giving them a more reliable software and earned their trust for being truthful in my opinions to them. I too always said their software was more viral and destructive to a machine than any of the infections I had to remove from them. Ah XPuser you made me smile this morning.

[NooNoo]

You think Symantec are trying to drive CyberSitter out of business?

I have no time for Norton anymore - I just uninstall it and start again. Perfectly easy tasks like killing a worm become a nightmare with Norton (and Macrappee for that matter).

While the concept is a good one - users just want something that works - Symantec Domestic products are just too overblown and easily attacked. Coporate is a different matter - much better... so why is the domestic product so bad?

[Matridom]

You think Symantec are trying to drive CyberSitter out of business?

I have no time for Norton anymore - I just uninstall it and start again. Perfectly easy tasks like killing a worm become a nightmare with Norton (and Macrappee for that matter).

While the concept is a good one - users just want something that works - Symantec Domestic products are just too overblown and easily attacked. Coporate is a different matter - much better... so why is the domestic product so bad?

It's cause domestic users need to be kept aware that they are being protected. For a lot of everyday folks, out of site is out of mind. Any service application that does not provide an immediate benefit is usually on the chopping block when it comes to renewals.

Norton domestic is in your face about everything, Pop ups for firewall, big fancy screens to update definition files, bright buttons to show that your protected. Just because your product does a good job does not mean that other people will see it the same way, I would hazard to guess that about 1/2 of the code in symantec's retail products is there to convince the user that the product is doing it's job.

[NooNoo]

That's fine Mat, I agree you need whizzy buttons and big warnings for users, but do they really need to take up so many resources? Look at this (http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php#firewalls-ratings) NIS can't even create a reasonable firewall and neither can McAfee... People are paying for a 2nd rate product... yet Norton/Symantec have a first rate product for business. It's not that they don't know how, it's that they don't have to.

[Matridom]

That's fine Mat, I agree you need whizzy buttons and big warnings for users, but do they really need to take up so many resources? Look at this (http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php#firewalls-ratings) NIS can't even create a reasonable firewall and neither can McAfee... People are paying for a 2nd rate product... yet Norton/Symantec have a first rate product for business. It's not that they don't know how, it's that they don't have to.
I do agree with some of it, but look at NIS for example, Do they even have a business version available? Corp users tend to have dedicated firewalls, Proxies and who knows what else between them and the internet and as a result, only need 1 service, NAV. Your average joe blow user does not have that luxury, so they have to role it all into one. Business, they can write a dedicated application and be like a surgical blade, for consumers, they have deal with many different items, like a swiss army knife. Then toss in the need to make users aware of everything your actually doing.

Look at all the good applications that we used to use, how many have we stopped using cause they tried to combine too many different things?
Zone alarm, added anti virus/spam functionality
PC Cilling added firewall/spam functions
SpySweeper added Anti virus functionality
Norton/Mcafee added Firewall/spam functionality

Now, look at all the programs we like to use:
Kapersky - Dedicated to AV (just very recently went into the firewall/spam market)
AVG, Dedicated to AV
NOS32, Dedicated to AV
NAV Business, Dedicated to AV
Etc..


"Jack of all trades, master of none" <-- it's that simple

[NooNoo]

Yup... but if you install AV, AS and a firewall separately, you get a faster machine... I am just asking them to look at the reasons for this and create a product that is efficient with both cpu cycles and ram.

[slgrieb]

Fortunately for the home user, if cybersitter doesn't work out for them, Symantec offers some parental control solutions. What a fortunate coincidence.