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thedogg
March 1st, 2001, 02:32 AM
please help!! i am running WIN98 (2nd edit).my daughters pc was playing fine till yesterday when i noticed "the forrest"background she has on was like some kind of cross between a negative and thermal image!!!She cant play any thing now as PC keeps asking for colour to be changed to 256 in control panel/display the pc wont let me change even the screen size and somehow i only have a choice between 16 & 2 colour.its an IBM box with celeron 600mhz processor with a quite old ICL SE14C monitor.respect&peace

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Sowulo
March 1st, 2001, 02:37 AM
You need to reinstall the drivers for you video board.

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thedogg
March 1st, 2001, 03:05 AM
totl rookie can u tell me how iits done .respect

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Sowulo
March 1st, 2001, 03:10 AM
I'll bite. What video board do you have and do you have the driver disk that came with it? I'm going to bed now. Post your info and we'll pick it up tomorrow (or some other night owl can step in and help).

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thedogg
March 1st, 2001, 03:18 AM
SUWALO I SEND MEGA RESPECT FROM SCOTLAND WHERE ITS BREAKFAST TIME SO APOLOGIES FOR KEEPING U UP. I DONT HAVE NAME OR MAKE PC IS 2ND HAND AND I DIDNT GET ANY DISKS APART FROM WIN98 2ND EDIT.RESPECT SCOTT

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mahdi
March 1st, 2001, 10:28 AM
Try removing the video card from the display adapter and restart the computer...with any luck it will find the old drivers form the previous install and auto-set everything for you. If it installs the standard drivers, your going to have to find out what video card is in there and get the correct drivers for it.
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After removing the drivers, before you restart, try the New Hardware wizard and see if it finds anything besides the standard drivers.

Sowulo
March 1st, 2001, 11:12 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mahdi:
Try removing the video card from the display adapter and restart the computer...with any luck it will find the old drivers form the previous install and auto-set everything for you. If it installs the standard drivers, your going to have to find out what video card is in there and get the correct drivers for it.
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After removing the drivers, before you restart, try the New Hardware wizard and see if it finds anything besides the standard drivers.</font>

A video card and display adapter are the same thing--you're gonna confuse this poor guy. And removing the video from "device manger" and redecting will just get him where he is.

So, Scott ignore the last message. We do need to know what board you have. Do you know how to open your system and take out the video board in order to identify it? If you don't feel qualified/comfortable with that call a tech in your area. Getting your video working again should take but a few minutes and should be a fairly inexpensive repair.

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thedogg
March 1st, 2001, 11:43 AM
i was told 2 search on the motherboard and the only things obvious are a 1 inch square chip with a holographic sticker on it has a thick "i" printed on it beside the name "AWARD" 1998 & PCI/PNP also another chip a bit bigger than 1 inch square with INTEL FW828014A-SL3MA (I'M ASSUMING THE HUGE MUTHA UNDER THE FAN UNIT ON MOTHER/B WITH "CELERON" ON IT IS MY MAIN PROCESSOR.I CAN OPEN IT UP WITH CONFIDENCE AS I ALLREADY HAD TO INSTALL MODEM AND I PUT IN A NEW FLOPPY DD.I KNOW,I KNOW HARDLY ROCKET SCIENCE I AGREE BUT IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT 2 LOOK FOR IF IT'S THERE I,LL FIND IT ESPECIALLY IF ITS COST EFFECTIVE AS TO BE HONEST GUYS WITH BEING A SINGLE DAD TO MY 10yr old DAUGHTER & 3yr old SON.a TECH CALLOUT WOULD HAVE TO BE SAVED FOR:-(.LOOK 4WARD 2 REPLYS.RESPECT ALL THE WAY FROM EDINBURGH THE CAPITAL CITY OF SCOTLAND 2 ALL WHO CARE ENUFF TO ASSIST.

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Rocinante
March 1st, 2001, 11:49 AM
Sowulo, Do you think Scott going to belarc advisor would tell him what graphics card he has, we can at least get some grounds on what mobo he is running, its likely he has a onboard vga.

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on tonights menu - special fried bios

[This message has been edited by Rocinante (edited March 01, 2001).]

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Sowulo
March 2nd, 2001, 12:41 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rocinante:
Sowulo, Do you think Scott going to belarc advisor would tell him what graphics card he has, we can at least get some grounds on what mobo he is running, its likely he has a onboard vga.

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To be honest, In fifteen years I've never used any of the utilities that help you identify chipsets--I haven't needed to. I think this is a case where one is needed but I will have to defer to you to tell him what to use and where/how to use it.

Scott, is there a brand-name on the computer? Or some other external markings that could help us with identifying it? Where the monitor plugs into the computer, does the socket look like it's part of the Motherboard (yes, its the largest board where the celeron is plugged in) or does it plug into a card that is plugged into the motherboard?

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thedogg
March 2nd, 2001, 02:33 AM
hi once again from sunny(not)SCOTLAND IHAVE ONCVE AGAIN JUST BEEN ALL OVER PC LIKE A RASH IVE BEEN AT THIS FOR NEARLY 72 UNINTERUPTED NOW AND STRESS IS SHOWING!!!!!HERE IS AS MUCH INFO AS I COULD GET, PC=GENUINEINTEL x86 FAMILY 6 MODEL 8 STEPPING 3.POWER UP DOES NOT GO DIRECTLY INTO MOTHERBOARD BUT INTO TH PSU WHICH ATTACH'S TO MOBO VIA SOME WIRE AND A CONNECTOR ALLREADY MOUNTED ON MOBO THE OTHER HALF OF THE CONNECTOR IS ON END OF WIRES COMING FROM PSU THIS IS THE POWER ARRANGEMENT. I ALSO FOUND <MS6178 VER:1.1> STAMPED ONTO MOBO BESIDE THE MODEM SLOT ETC AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IT HAS <N1996> STAMPED ON ALSO.MAX RESPECT GUYS AND ILL UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS TO TEDIOUS FOR YOU TO STICK WITH.SCOTT

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u scratch my progs,i'll scratch ures!!:-)

thedogg
March 2nd, 2001, 02:33 AM
hi once again from sunny(not)SCOTLAND IHAVE ONCVE AGAIN JUST BEEN ALL OVER PC LIKE A RASH IVE BEEN AT THIS FOR NEARLY 72 UNINTERUPTED NOW AND STRESS IS SHOWING!!!!!HERE IS AS MUCH INFO AS I COULD GET, PC=GENUINEINTEL x86 FAMILY 6 MODEL 8 STEPPING 3.POWER UP DOES NOT GO DIRECTLY INTO MOTHERBOARD BUT INTO TH PSU WHICH ATTACH'S TO MOBO VIA SOME WIRE AND A CONNECTOR ALLREADY MOUNTED ON MOBO THE OTHER HALF OF THE CONNECTOR IS ON END OF WIRES COMING FROM PSU THIS IS THE POWER ARRANGEMENT. I ALSO FOUND <MS6178 VER:1.1> STAMPED ONTO MOBO BESIDE THE MODEM SLOT ETC AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IT HAS <N1996> STAMPED ON ALSO.MAX RESPECT GUYS AND ILL UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS TO TEDIOUS FOR YOU TO STICK WITH.SCOTT

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thedogg
March 2nd, 2001, 02:44 AM
SORRY ABOUT THE LAST POST DONT KNOW HOW IT GOT THEIR TWICE.I MUT B TIRED AS YOU ASKED IF THE MONITOR PLUGS INTO MOBO YES SO DOES THE REST WHICH IS COLOUR CODED APART FROM MY INTERNAL MODEM AND PRINTER PORT(UNUSED) WHICH CONNECT VIA CARD AND WIRES RESPECTIVELY. REPECT SCOT

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Sowulo
March 2nd, 2001, 10:58 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sowulo:
Scott, is there a brand-name on the computer? Or some other external markings that could help us with identifying it? Where the monitor plugs into the computer, does the socket look like it's part of the Motherboard (yes, its the largest board where the celeron is plugged in) or does it plug into a card that is plugged into the motherboard?

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There are two cables coming out of the back of the monitor. One goes to power, the other goes to the back of the computer. Your last post doesn't mention anything about where this is plugging in. I need to know if the video chip is embedded in the MB or on a separate card. Reread my previous question and try to get me this info. Also, in you first post you said your system is an IBM...where does this info come from? Can you give me a list of everything written on the computer case itself--front, back, sides, bottom?

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thedogg
March 2nd, 2001, 11:34 AM
SOWULO I APLOGISE FOR THAT IBM NONSENSE IVE BEEN DOING 24/7 ON THIS MACHINE AND HEAD IS FIT TO BURST...SINCE LAST POST I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT MY MOBO IS DEFINATLEY INTEL.A BIOS EXAMINATION PROG REVEALED ALL THE INFO ABOUT MY MOBO.THE DISPLAY DOES NOT HAVE A SEPERATE CARD.ITS ALL DONE STRAIGHT FROM THE MOBO.MON JUST PLUGS STRAIGHT INTO MOBO AT BACK OF PCHERE IS SOME OF THE INFO THAT THE BIOS ANALYSIS SPAT AT ME:-

OEM :-.....................MICROSTAR
PCI-BIOS(GEFUNDEN):-.......VERS 02.10, 32-BIT-PCI-BIOS,REVISION,
CHIPSET....................i810E //INTEL WHITNEY 810....


I HOPE THIS IS VALID ENOUGH TO GET A DRIVER DOWNLOAD FROM SOMEPLACE..LOOK 4WARD TO YOUR REPLY......SCOTT

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thedogg
March 2nd, 2001, 04:20 PM
yiiiiiippppppppeeeeeeee!!!!!FULL GLORIOUS TECHNICOLOUR BACK.Well folks i discovered the driver files on win98 cd-rom!!"windows for dummies" tells of many hidden extras within windoze im going to put a thread up about that book cos to be honest how many people would b sorted after a read of it?I am a million percent wiser and have learned a fair wee bit too.That book "windows for dummies" has sold over 50 million copys and will garuntee a lot more good help in a language everyone understands.and thats from a guy who isn't exactly into advertising for anyone other than family!!but once more massive RESPECT for trying ure bests 2 help a quick learning rookie!!

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Sowulo
March 3rd, 2001, 03:01 AM
Hi. It looks like you've got this handled? The drivers for the Intel 810 chipset are available at www.intel.com (http://www.intel.com) I'm glad you made it. Perserverence does pay off most of the time.

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Pfred
March 5th, 2001, 10:49 AM
my 2 cents:

what the guys are trying to get at is:

is there a name brand on the box; model number also hopefully; => if it is common; we can figure out how to provide the box with the proper driver.

look VERY closely for the model of the mobo as listed on the board. what software tells you can be misleading.

sometimes a windows re-stall can clear these things up; could be a corruption in the driver that is at fault http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum/smilies/cwm15.gif