Jonbenet's Killer Finally Caught

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August 16th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Mayet

Jonbenet's Killer Finally Caught

They finally got the killer of Jonbenet ramsey, which finally vindicates her family's involvement in the killing

well done but it comes to late for Jonbenet and her mother

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BOULDER, Colo. -- A former schoolteacher was arrested Wednesday in Thailand in the slaying of 6-year-old beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey -- a surprise breakthrough in a lurid, decade-old murder mystery that had cast a cloud of suspicion over her own parents.

Federal officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, identified the suspect as John Mark Karr, a 42-year-old American, and one law enforcement official told The Associated Press that Boulder police had tracked him down online.

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The Ramsey family's attorney in Atlanta pronounced the arrest vindication for JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Patsy Ramsey died of ovarian cancer on June 24.

"John and Patsy lived their lives knowing they were innocent, trying to raise a son despite the furor around them," Lin Wood said. "The story of this family is a story of courage, and story of an American injustice and tragedy that ultimately people will have to look back on and hopefully learn from."

The attorney said the Ramseys learned about the suspect a least a month before Patsy Ramsey's death. "It's been a very long 10 years, and I'm just sorry Patsy isn't here for me to hug her neck," Wood said.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/4122210.html
August 16th, 2006, 09:20 PM
geoscomp

Actually, the person is still listed as a suspect..not a killer.
BTW..what is that orange savings account thingie..has the site been hacked?
August 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM
geeksRus

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Originally Posted by geoscomp

Actually, the person is still listed as a suspect..not a killer.

true but they have a confession and a dna match. also he knew details that were never made public. game, set and match i do believe.
August 17th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Green_Eyed

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Originally Posted by Mayet

They finally got the killer of Jonbenet ramsey, which finally vindicates her family's involvement in the killing

well done but it comes to late for Jonbenet and her mother...

I never believed her family could have done such a thing. ESPECIALLY her mother. I just couldn't see how a woman who did all that for her daughter could even think of killing her, and so brutally too. All those little pagents were the equivalent of putting her on a pedestal. I'm surprised the Boulder PD didn't seriously consider that.
August 17th, 2006, 05:05 PM
RejectionMan

Q: Why did he confess now?
A: he was locked up in a thai prison for sex crimes of all things.... given what I have heard of their corperal punishment for the offenders they dont kill i may be tempted to confess to something bigger in my home country to get to a softer prison.....this guy just actualy happend to have done it.

q: if the cops have DNA evidence and he as a suspect when it went down why did it take till now to have 1+1=2?
a: stupid cops, or a #@$ legal system preventing forcible DNA samples from this suspect.
August 17th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Zil

So they finally arrested her dad and dug up her mom? Oh wait, I guess they finally caught "some Puerto Rican guy".
August 17th, 2006, 07:26 PM
street1

If DNA matches hang him in town for a few days
so those passing by can see how it's done.

Don't forget the.......

Here is how we dispose of perverts sign.

No excuse to rehabillitate anyone who fools
with children.Total waste of time and money.

A really good bullet only costs fifty cents ,used
rope is even cheaper.
August 17th, 2006, 09:55 PM
3fingersalute

Details are still forthcoming, but my money says this isn't the guy...................
August 18th, 2006, 08:02 AM
El_Squid

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Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

Details are still forthcoming, but my money says this isn't the guy...................

It's looking more and more like you may be a winner! He was alledgedly nowhere near Colorado at the time of the murder, but with his wife (now ex) in Georgia. He bungled a few of the crucial details of the incident, like claiming to have picked her up from school, when the crime occurred during the Chrisymas Holidays. Furthermore, he was apparently obssessed with the crime, having investigated it for 10 years and had even interviewed the grandparents, who may have spilled the beans on some of those secret details. What we may have is the case of a truly pathetic wanna-be in search of some fame and notoriety. The DNA evidence will nail it down.
August 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM
pmetal

No chance this dude did it.

None.
August 18th, 2006, 08:56 AM
3fingersalute

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Originally Posted by El_Squid

It's looking more and more like you may be a winner! He was alledgedly nowhere near Colorado at the time of the murder, but with his wife (now ex) in Georgia. He bungled a few of the crucial details of the incident, like claiming to have picked her up from school, when the crime occurred during the Chrisymas Holidays. Furthermore, he was apparently obssessed with the crime, having investigated it for 10 years and had even interviewed the grandparents, who may have spilled the beans on some of those secret details. What we may have is the case of a truly pathetic wanna-be in search of some fame and notoriety. The DNA evidence will nail it down.

Don't forget that he said he drugged her to have sex with her and that she died accidentally as a result of the drugs, yet the autopsy revealed no traces of any drugs.....
August 18th, 2006, 09:03 AM
edball

The reports I heard all said they had matched the DNA, did they speak too soon.......?
August 18th, 2006, 09:38 AM
3fingersalute

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Originally Posted by edball

The reports I heard all said they had matched the DNA, did they speak too soon.......?

no, not the media........there's no way they could ever speak to soon is there??

[/heavy sarcasm]
August 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM
geoscomp

almost all the reports I saw said this:

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Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not known. Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United States in the next several days, the official said.
August 18th, 2006, 10:34 AM
rgharper

That just means they gave him a test - not that the results matched. It takes a while to do real DNA matching (as opposed to TV DNA matching, that is. :))
August 18th, 2006, 11:03 AM
3fingersalute

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Originally Posted by rgharper

That just means they gave him a test - not that the results matched. It takes a while to do real DNA matching (as opposed to TV DNA matching, that is. :))

They should have asked Grisom to have the testing done - he always gets his results back in like minutes :D
August 18th, 2006, 01:12 PM
slgrieb

Yeah, I'm afraid Karr's confession is definitely flawed. It appears that the early reports of DNA testing may be erroneous. Stories on CNN and todays New York Times indicate that DNA testing has not been performed (or at least the results not made public, and I think this would be hard to keep under wraps), plus his version of the killing, which he claims involved rape and drugs, doesn't match the evidence. Still, maybe the cops know things we don't that make Karr a better suspect than he would appear.
August 18th, 2006, 01:40 PM
geoscomp

Would those be the same cops that said that Jon Benet's family did it?
August 18th, 2006, 02:31 PM
slgrieb

Unfortunately, yes. If you haven't watched it already, check out the video interview with a forensic pathologist on CNN's website
August 18th, 2006, 03:15 PM
FireAm94

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Originally Posted by slgrieb

Yeah, I'm afraid Karr's confession is definitely flawed. It appears that the early reports of DNA testing may be erroneous. Stories on CNN and todays New York Times indicate that DNA testing has not been performed (or at least the results not made public, and I think this would be hard to keep under wraps), plus his version of the killing, which he claims involved rape and drugs, doesn't match the evidence. Still, maybe the cops know things we don't that make Karr a better suspect than he would appear.

Actually...the initial reports that he drugged her appear to have been wrong also. I still have to agree with 3FS though...probably not the guy.
August 18th, 2006, 05:08 PM
imaeditedbysowulo

There's very good reasons why the cops focused on the parents. The girl was attacked and killed in her own home. That just screams that it was either a family member or a close trusted aquaintence of the family. Like some complete stranger is going to break into a house on X-mas eve, attack and rape the girl and somehow cause her death, and then hide the body in the basement? All the while not causing any harm to the rest of the occupants of the house? Come on, who in their right minds is going to believe that? That's not even a believable plot for a movie.

I don't know who did it, but I guarantee it wasn't this guy.
August 18th, 2006, 05:27 PM
xpuser357

I agree this is not the guy, especially when X WIFE has a great ALIBI.
It has been 10 years since the terrible day. Traces on her under wear and
under her nails, DNA and they STILL cannot find the suspect. I suspect this case has been on back burner that has been shut off.
August 18th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Mayet

It's all so sick ...

If this guy wantss to confess.... fine cut his rocks off with a blunt knife anyhows... he wants to confess... then take the punishment..
but as for the real killer...... one day....one day..he will get his
August 18th, 2006, 08:04 PM
geoscomp

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Originally Posted by imaeditedbysowulo

There's very good reasons why the cops focused on the parents. The girl was attacked and killed in her own home. That just screams that it was either a family member or a close trusted aquaintence of the family. Like some complete stranger is going to break into a house on X-mas eve, attack and rape the girl and somehow cause her death, and then hide the body in the basement? All the while not causing any harm to the rest of the occupants of the house? Come on, who in their right minds is going to believe that? That's not even a believable plot for a movie.

I don't know who did it, but I guarantee it wasn't this guy.

Yeah..I know what you are saying..but then again..the DNA under her fingernails NEVER matched any of the family members..the note that was left was very derogatory towards the father, and mentioned income facts that only a close personal enemy would have done..and even a movie wouldn't have had a family member kill her in her own house and not try to hide the body elsewhere..the family DID have to be checked..but there was sufficient tunnel vision on the part of investigators to thoroughly compromise any semblance of a good investigation.
August 29th, 2006, 09:06 AM
El_Squid

And so, another crackpot is unveiled. Darn shame our unbiased, realiable media jumped to yet another premature conclusion and set off another fruitless feeding frenzy. Next....
August 29th, 2006, 09:49 PM
slgrieb

What a joke all the reporting on Karr was! Inaccurate, contradictory, premature; the acronym FUBAR comes to mind. This story from the Washington Post pretty much says it all: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...v=most_emailed