A 'creative' rant !

[confus-ed]

Calm down 'ed, breathe!

I had to have at least two 'breaths' to get over this

I'd seen both links you gave me ... but ta anyway !

Solved it .... here's how - after much fruitless searching I realised that this machine had been to windows update - now there's a sound blaster update file there (which is of a later date than the KB you gave me) - but the one on creatives site, the latest, is february something,which is earlier than the one on windows update, so you'd assume newest was best - mu-ha-ha-ha !!! - look at the infs of each (once you've sussed how to open the self extracting exe or the download, to see) & you discover the inf on the creative site doesn't install devldr32 at all, but one of the bits of bloatware does, look at the inf on the windows update site & even though the individual driver files are newer that inf loads devldr32 not the bloatware ... thanks very much Uncle Bill once again for making a 'cock' of things !!!

Bloody system restore had me most confus-ed too

BTW I see you are now "driver Terrier" - just a suggestion, but I really think you need to be shown as a 'mod' too - or won't it all fit ?

[Ferrit]

Throw the creative away and buy one of the many CMI sound cards that have great drivers work as good as creative and have no issues
IE: 8738 and on

[NooNoo]

Driver terrier is what I like doing and do the most around, moderating is what I only occasionally have to do.... so I am going with the majority verdict