Laptop with good graphics card and sound

[Radical Dreamer]

Then Radical, your beef is with Dell for distributing inadequate drivers, not with ATI.

No, my beef is with ATI, All 3 drivers suck (dell, omega and ATI) Ati's just suck the least of the 3, I've had.

None of the 3 drivers will work well with quake 2 and/or UT.

So, in order of crappines, its

ATI = crappy
dell = crappier
omega = crappiest

Also, another reason why my beef is with ATI is omega and dell both just take the referance drivers and tweak em, they were broke to begin with, they just break em more :P

Oh and as far as the nvidia driver are concerned, I've only had problems with ONE release, the 23.11/23.12 (23.11 was released by nvidia and the 23.12 were released by M$) they never "crashed" the machine, they just caused random reboots