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January 25th, 2004, 04:57 AM
#1
Geezer
"bang" ??? I is confus-ed 
We mean a yellow exlamation mark ?
What is it saying is the reason ? & has it ever worked ? Acpi on or off ?
& as far as this 'is it enabled in bios' question, if you delete the errant sound device(s) does windows re-find it /them (Generally you get more than one 'bit'/device showing for a s/c) ... can you tell us what windows thinks it has inside 'sound video & game controllers' within device manager ?
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January 25th, 2004, 11:22 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
"bang" ??? I is confus-ed
We mean a yellow exlamation mark ?
What is it saying is the reason ? & has it ever worked ? Acpi on or off ?
& as far as this 'is it enabled in bios' question, if you delete the errant sound device(s) does windows re-find it /them (Generally you get more than one 'bit'/device showing for a s/c) ... can you tell us what windows thinks it has inside 'sound video & game controllers' within device manager ?
Daffy, it is enabled in the bios.
Confus-ed, sorry. A bang is a term for an error icon in device manager, either a question mark or an exclamation point. In this case, it's an exclamation point.
The reason listed for the excl. mark is "drivers not properly installed". Yes, it has worked in the past, and ACPI is off.
Yes, if I delete the device in dev mgr, WinME will refind it, add it back, report no errors during the add back, and then show a bang in DevMgr.
Thanks for the replies, but I think i'm going to just quit fighting this thing and just get an add-in PCI sound card from Newegg 
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January 25th, 2004, 08:11 PM
#3
Originally Posted by daffy86
It also helps if you read the text in my original post
"I've also tried removing and re-adding the drivers from Safe Mode. No go.
I've searched SoundMax's website, the manual, IBM's support site, called IBM's tech support"
In my first post, I also mentioned that I had already been to IBM's website, and gotten the specific drivers for this exact model PC.
So don't get on me about reading 
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January 25th, 2004, 08:18 PM
#4
Driver Terrier
Aaah this is the evil win me with sound wdm drivers. Get the 98 vxd drivers, tear the wdms out of safe mode and try with the vxd version.
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January 25th, 2004, 08:32 PM
#5
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Aaah this is the evil win me with sound wdm drivers. Get the 98 vxd drivers, tear the wdms out of safe mode and try with the vxd version.
NooNoo, thanks for your help. Is there a known issue between WinMe and 'wdm' drivers?
And do you know where I can get the 98 vxd set? I'd be willing to give that a try.
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January 26th, 2004, 04:34 AM
#6
Geezer
Originally Posted by ziffel
NooNoo, thanks for your help. Is there a known issue between WinMe and 'wdm' drivers?
And do you know where I can get the 98 vxd set? I'd be willing to give that a try.
98SE & ME use 'wdm' sytle drivers (windows direct media) stuff before that uses vdx (Virtual eXtended Device), WDM is kind of 'middleware' & doesn't directly address hardware, VDXs deal directly with the device ... The WDM model is 'iffy' for all 9x windows installs & only 'works' really 'good' with NTFS systems like w2k or xp, theres a great long technical explanation to do with resource arbitration, which is too tedious even for me to explain
As far as IBM seem to be concerned they expect the 98 drivers to be WDM too, very touching too, I'm sure such faith in Uncle Bill ... however I'm none so trusting so the 95 drivers are what we want, which are definately vxd style, they'll be on the IBM site somewhere ....
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January 26th, 2004, 04:21 PM
#7
Originally Posted by confus-ed
98SE & ME use 'wdm' sytle drivers (windows direct media) stuff before that uses vdx (Virtual eXtended Device), WDM is kind of 'middleware' & doesn't directly address hardware, VDXs deal directly with the device ... The WDM model is 'iffy' for all 9x windows installs & only 'works' really 'good' with NTFS systems like w2k or xp, theres a great long technical explanation to do with resource arbitration, which is too tedious even for me to explain
As far as IBM seem to be concerned they expect the 98 drivers to be WDM too, very touching too, I'm sure such faith in Uncle Bill ... however I'm none so trusting so the 95 drivers are what we want, which are definately vxd style, they'll be on the IBM site somewhere ....
Thanks Daffy, and Confus-ed for the info. I'll see if I can find the older drivers and give those a try.
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