won't run on battery

**undergroundryan** · May 2nd, 2004, 08:42 PM

Well, I did as freddy did and booted into the BIOS using F2. I was messing around in there...not changing any options... and did not see any options/anything about a battery. Then I crossed my fingers, reached back and unpluged the cord and goodbye BIOS. Of course it turns off...and no it would not turn back on....without plugging i back in...I have really bad luck with this ****.

**TripleRLtd** · May 2nd, 2004, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by undergroundryan

Well, I did as freddy did and booted into the BIOS using F2. I was messing around in there...not changing any options... and did not see any options/anything about a battery. Then I crossed my fingers, reached back and unpluged the cord and goodbye BIOS. Of course it turns off...and no it would not turn back on....without plugging i back in...I have really bad luck with this ****.

No power options in Bios? I'll go check NooNoo's links, but listen. The battery no longer works!!!! OK? Just to be sure, take it to a Radio Shack to check, or some other Battery place. Down here we a place called Batteries Plus which sells even laptop batteries cheaper than the mfg. They will test the battery for you. Where do you live?

**TripleRLtd** · May 2nd, 2004, 09:11 PM

Alright: NooNoo's link: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/lpi05117.pdf
1:" Power Menu" in Bios page 129
2: "Power and Battery Problems" page 111
3: "Using Battery Power" page 53

**undergroundryan** · May 2nd, 2004, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Alright: NooNoo's link: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/lpi05117.pdf
1:" Power Menu" in Bios page 129
2: "Power and Battery Problems" page 111
3: "Using Battery Power" page 53

Hrm...none of that really helped out. could I battery be bad even though it is holding a 99% charge? And also, can radio shack check and see if it is dead? I think this has something to do with the BIOS, or an internal battery that is dead. The only reason is because the battery worked before the upgrade. I really appreciate all of the help guys!

**undergroundryan** · May 2nd, 2004, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Alright: NooNoo's link: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/lpi05117.pdf
1:" Power Menu" in Bios page 129
2: "Power and Battery Problems" page 111
3: "Using Battery Power" page 53

The power number on page 129 is for pentium only and I am running AMD. None of the troubleshooting on page 111 applys for me except trying another battery...which I don't have...and hrm...Page 53 says that amber light means charging, and that is the light that comes on when I plug in the battery...then shortly after the battery light goes off completely...not red for battery not accepting a charge, or green for fully charged. What do you guys think?

**undergroundryan** · May 2nd, 2004, 11:52 PM

BTW...someone on hp forum mentioned that I should upgrade my bios and chipset drivers. Anyone know where I could find those?

**NooNoo** · May 3rd, 2004, 01:16 AM

On the same link I gave you.....all your drivers etc were there.

Opening up you laptop is something I do not recommend unless you are prepared to have a laptop that does NOT work at all.

Reading the thread I wonder, have you taken the battery out and let it "rest" for a bit? While its out, check the terminals on the laptop where the battery connects, they should be bright and shiny and no dust. Similarly on the battery. DO NOT touch the terminals, just blow some dry air over them if they look dusty.

It is very easy to short out a battery by inadvertently connecting two of the terminals together, for instance, polishing with a damp cloth.

Remove battery for one hour, then put in in the laptop with the laptop off AND the power cord disconnected. Now try turning on the laptop WITHOUT the power cord connected.

**undergroundryan** · May 3rd, 2004, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

On the same link I gave you.....all your drivers etc were there.

Opening up you laptop is something I do not recommend unless you are prepared to have a laptop that does NOT work at all.

Reading the thread I wonder, have you taken the battery out and let it "rest" for a bit? While its out, check the terminals on the laptop where the battery connects, they should be bright and shiny and no dust. Similarly on the battery. DO NOT touch the terminals, just blow some dry air over them if they look dusty.

It is very easy to short out a battery by inadvertently connecting two of the terminals together, for instance, polishing with a damp cloth.

Remove battery for one hour, then put in in the laptop with the laptop off AND the power cord disconnected. Now try turning on the laptop WITHOUT the power cord connected.

You have to open up the laptop to upgrade the BIOS?...I didn't know that. Last night I took the battery out and checked all of the leads which looked very clean, and same with the leads on the laptop. I left it out all night, and in the morning I poped it in with no results. I then plugged in the AC power and it came one, but instead of an amber battery light I got a RED light which means battery will not accept a charge. This light was on shortly, and turned off after it was booted into Windows XP. It did just like the amber light does as far as turning off in a short period of time. I then removed the battery and popped it back on and got the amber light....full charge...for a short period of time then it went back off. I guess it is safe to say the battery is toast..? BTW, Thank you for all the help guys.

**FatalException0E** · May 2nd, 2004, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by undergroundryan

Well, I did as freddy did and booted into the BIOS using F2. I was messing around in there...not changing any options... and did not see any options/anything about a battery. Then I crossed my fingers, reached back and unpluged the cord and goodbye BIOS. Of course it turns off...and no it would not turn back on....without plugging i back in...I have really bad luck with this ****.

If it won't run in BIOS setup or even try to boot from a fully charged (seemingly) battery, then the OS is obviously not an issue. You've either got a dead battery, or an issue with the connection or internal circuitry. I'm betting that if you get a new battery, your issue will be solved.

Originally Posted by undergroundryan

could I battery be bad even though it is holding a 99% charge?

When the battery in my Toshiba Tecra died, it always reported full charge and would run the system no more than 45 seconds. I believe what happens is you get a dead cell or two, so current is passing though the battery and everything looks peachy to the battery tester, but it can't get enough current through to run anything.....but I could be wrong. In any case, your battery is history.

**undergroundryan** · May 2nd, 2004, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by FatalException0E

If it won't run in BIOS setup or even try to boot from a fully charged (seemingly) battery, then the OS is obviously not an issue. You've either got a dead battery, or an issue with the connection or internal circuitry. I'm betting that if you get a new battery, your issue will be solved.

When the battery in my Toshiba Tecra died, it always reported full charge and would run the system no more than 45 seconds. I believe what happens is you get a dead cell or two, so current is passing though the battery and everything looks peachy to the battery tester, but it can't get enough current through to run anything.....but I could be wrong. In any case, your battery is history.

Ok, so the OS is not an issue so dead battery maybe...but issue with the connection or internal circuitry..How could a diagnose this? I hope this is as simple as a dead battery. You said the battery in your Toshiba laptop was dead but would still operate it for 45 seconds...mine won't do anything at all without the ac. I would think mine would work for at least a short period before it completely died...especially after charging for hours straight.