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January 16th, 2001, 06:13 PM
#1
Thermal Paste
Use it...or don't use it. I always was taught that you had to use it between the CPU and heatsink, but I've talked to people who'll slap a heatsink on a system with no heat-sink compound whatsoever, and these are Athlon and PIII 800-1000Mhz systems...
Thoughts?
[This message has been edited by Glenn (edited January 16, 2001).]
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January 16th, 2001, 07:36 PM
#2
In my experience, I get a much cooler chip temp with the paste then without. I'd say it is worth the couple of bucks for a tube.
AFJuvat
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January 16th, 2001, 10:19 PM
#3
i'm lazy so i use the cooler master fans with the compound already on them
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January 16th, 2001, 10:59 PM
#4
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In my opinion, the ppl who don't use thermal paste are just asking for crabby customers who hav erandom lockups and blue screens. The thermal pads that come on most heatsinks seem to act more as a insulator rather than a conductor of heat.
Now...the ppl (have to strain very hard to refer to them as that) who don't use anything and just slap a heatsink to a processor that you could cook a 3 inch steak in 5 min on are jsut plain nuts
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January 16th, 2001, 11:19 PM
#5
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Glenn:
Use it...or don't use it. I always was taught that you had to use it between the CPU and heatsink, but I've talked to people who'll slap a heatsink on a system with no heat-sink compound whatsoever, and these are Athlon and PIII 800-1000Mhz systems...
Thoughts?
[This message has been edited by Glenn (edited January 16, 2001).]</font>
I use it all the time. Of course the newer chips that have the small surface of the die exposed, don't require much more that the pad or goo that comes with the heatsink. However the old Socket7 chips needed it. Have you ever held one up to the light? It is almost always warped or have light showing between the chip and heatsink. K6-2's were the worse!!
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January 16th, 2001, 11:28 PM
#6
Never used the stuff (oh actually I did once). Only problems of had with hit CPU's is the fan packing it in.
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January 17th, 2001, 03:07 AM
#7
I always use thermal paste. If a heat sink has thermal tape on it, I remove it and use the paste.
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January 17th, 2001, 03:21 AM
#8
Once when I DID use paste, i fried this 800 T-bird I was using it on.....you gotta be VERY careful with anything but Arcic Silver.....see, it's electrically conductive. And so is just about anything else on the die-side of an Athlon. Kentucky-fried CPU. The coolerMaster gunk doesn't seem to be too bad...it can usaully keep an 8 or 900 mhz down around 110 to 115 degrees f, and it doesn't get all over the place and become a hazard for CPU slaughter.
I DO have to hand it to Intel for sticking their cache chips on the BOTTOM of the CPU package though...
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January 17th, 2001, 09:47 AM
#9
This system would not even run without thermal paste, it's running that close to borderline. The thermal paste dropped the temp about 5F, enough to keep it stable.
Our Compliance Testing Engineer did some research, and found that thermal paste is about 10-20 times better at conducting heat than the typical thermal pads that come with most heatsinks. Wow!
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January 17th, 2001, 11:17 AM
#10
I've never used the stuff and rarely had any problems. I think the expensive paste is just a marketing ploy. Perhaps only useful for overclockers.
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January 17th, 2001, 03:45 PM
#11
The expensive paste is probably not worth it unless you are overclocking or have a borderline system.
I just use plain old Thermalcote joint compound, about $5 for a 2 oz tube, with is a lifetime supply for most individuals, and a several year supply for most tech shops.
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January 17th, 2001, 03:55 PM
#12
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January 17th, 2001, 05:44 PM
#13
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January 18th, 2001, 11:14 AM
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January 18th, 2001, 12:29 PM
#15
I have never used it, and have never had a problem (I am only speaking of my home PCs right now. I give customers what they want, however stupid). As for the posts about instability, socket 7 and overclocking, I am currently using only ss7 at home, none have paste, and my K6-2/500 is clocked out mildly to 566. Da paste is a waste!
In fact, I had a P90 awhile back, the damn sticky pad was shot, would not hold the heat sink to the CPU (no clip on this old mobo). So I super glued the SOB, and it still runs fine today. These things are more rugged than you think, and I feel more instability problems stem from crappy components than heat.
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