Getting beat to death on this one

**bigcrit** · April 25th, 2002, 09:51 PM

I'm getting this error while trying to load windows 98se.

w98setup caused segment load failure in module SETUPX.dll

Than when I quit I get this error.

Standard Mode: Invalid dpmi return from 0727:01B2

I disabled my cache (read it somewhere else)Still doesn't matter.

Before this I was getting a SUWIN error.

This is beating the crap out of me please help.

Thanks

Chris

**ilovetheusers** · April 25th, 2002, 10:05 PM

<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/</a>

<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q188107" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q188107</a>

<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309472" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309472</a>

The last link isn't the exact error you get but it does hint towards bad ram. Try using known good memory or if you have additional new ram try removing it.

**EvilCabbage** · April 25th, 2002, 11:17 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
The last link isn't the exact error you get but it does hint towards bad ram. Try using known good memory or if you have additional new ram try removing it.<hr /></blockquote>I'll second that.

**Pinnacle** · April 25th, 2002, 11:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
The last link isn't the exact error you get but it does hint towards bad ram. Try using known good memory or if you have additional new ram try removing it.<hr /></blockquote>I'll second that.<hr /></blockquote>

And I will third it. This is almost certainly bad RAM.

**Sowulo** · April 26th, 2002, 12:24 AM

Almost always RAM....

BUT, I've seen a flakey power supply do this a few times as well....

**condor** · April 26th, 2002, 04:08 AM

1. Docmem - check your RAM
<a href="Http://www.simmtester.com" target="_blank">Http://www.simmtester.com</a>

2. check your BIOS for RAM timings - they might be too aggressive

3. check your FSB settings - you maybe running the wrong FSB speed.

4. check your BIOS settings in general - try to use the "setup defaults" or "optimize defaults" and see if it happens..

5. use a clean win98 Floppy and fdisk the mbr again (fdisk /mbr)
you might have a boot sector virus.

I've seen cases where it was also bad PSU, bad Display adapter and bad NIC -
so better take all the hardware out leaveing only needed hardware for setup and see if it happens .

also I'd try to run the setup directly from the HDD (copy the setup files to a c:\win9x and install from there)

hope it helps

**Darren Wilson** · April 26th, 2002, 05:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by condor:
also I'd try to run the setup directly from the HDD (copy the setup files to a c:\win9x and install from there) <hr /></blockquote>Thats always worked for me in this circumstance.

**bigcrit** · April 26th, 2002, 02:27 PM

I tried copying the cab files to the hdd and installing from there...no help. I will try known good RAM and removing all the other hardware....THANKS TO ALL WHO POSTED!.....I apppreciate it...

**Antimatter** · April 26th, 2002, 07:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by condor:
also I'd try to run the setup directly from the HDD (copy the setup files to a c:\win9x and install from there) <hr /></blockquote>Thats always worked for me in this circumstance.<hr /></blockquote>The few times I've encountered this error, it's been a faulty CDROM drive that had to be unplugged for setup to go through.
The CDROM drives ran fine after installing windows but they have stopped installation even if setup was being done from HDD.

**silencio** · April 26th, 2002, 08:44 PM

RAM is my bet too.

But, where did you get that setupx.dll ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

**bigcrit** · April 30th, 2002, 12:51 PM

Thanks everyone. FYI, it was the RAM. I replaced it with a 128 MB stick of pc-100. It installed but at a surprisingly slow rate. (2 hours) Windows at the beginning of the setup stated it would take that long too. I never seen such a long install before. But after the install everything seems to be OK. I can only get to work on this machine for about 5 minutes a day. So that last statement may be wrong. But I think it's ok.

Here's the machine specs.

Asus A7V133 Board
AMD T-bird 900
20 GB HDD (Maxtor 7200)
Abit Siluro (geforce2mx 32MB)
256 MB pc-133 RAM
Inwin case and power supply
98se installed (finally)
52x Pine CD Rom (very noisy) still don't think this is the problem.

Tests:
Maxtor powerdrive - to test the HDD (got some errors) that was when I was using the BAD ram.

I ran some generic RAM test mentioned in this post and it claimed the RAM was good. Not sure how credible the test was.

I did a multitude of hardware swaps and removals. Nothing helped.

Thanks to all. How about how long that install took......any thoughts?

**Mayhem** · April 30th, 2002, 01:21 PM

Have you tried a different CD? I have had similar problems with damaged CDs

**silencio** · May 1st, 2002, 09:16 PM

I've also seen extremely slow installs when level 2 cache is disabled.

**Kenny P.** · May 2nd, 2002, 06:16 AM

Did you re-enable cache?

It's hella slow without cache memory. Re-enable it and see what that does.

Kenny P.
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**ilovetheusers** · May 2nd, 2002, 09:25 AM

Probably a BIOS setting. Go into the BIOS and look for it and turn it on.

Also - try setting your board to the optimal settings or the best performance settings in bios. When I set my kt7a - raid to failsafe it dogs but on performance settings it's the bomb (though it gets a little buggy).

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