[RESOLVED] Help installing CD Rom Driver

[honeybunnie2]

Which one of these do you suggest I use then?
There seems to be 7 choices.
I want to install win98SE when I'm all done and said.

Windows 98 SE
Windows 98
Windows 95 OSR2/2.1 98BOT10A.EXE
572 KB
(03-09-99) All Atapi Compliant and Adaptec

Windows 95 95BOT245.EXE
618KB
(09-17-96) Older - Teac, Sony, Sanyo, NEC, Mitsumi, Hitachi, Some Atapi, Adaptec, and Bus Logic.

MS DOS 6.22 w/ Windows 3.11 DOSBOT29.EXE
830 KB
(04-10-97) Older - Teac, Sony, Sanyo, NEC, Mitsumi, Hitachi, Toshiba, Adaptec, Advansys, and Bus Logic.

Windows NT 4.0 Workstation(3 Setup Disks) NT401.EXE
NT402.EXE
NT403.EXE All Atapi Compliant and Supported SCSI controllers.

Windows NT 4.0 Server(3 Setup Disks) NTSER401.EXE
NTSER402.EXE
NTSER403.EXE All Atapi Compliant and Supported SCSI controllers.

Windows NT Small Bussiness Server(Re-Install Disk) SBS_SCSI.EXE All Atapi Compliant and Supported SCSI controllers.

Windows NT 3.51 Workstation(3 Setup Disks) NTDisk1.EXE
NTDisk2.EXE
NTDisk3.EXE All Atapi Compliant and Supported SCSI controllers.

[Mad Machinist]

This may not be much help.....but when trying to load Win98 on a Packard Bell, when you get to a dos prompt change to Q drive. I have loaded win95/98 on dozens of old PB's.
When you get to Q prompt...type in setup and the win setup will begin and the cd will recognize and operate......same problem drove me insane for a month

[Sly]

From what i am reading it looks like your CD-ROM whants to be load form the autoexec.bat, if this is the case you will need the DOS drivers for the cd-rom. If so open up the computer and look at the sound card get all info you can from the card, FCC ID, maker of the card, model #, or chip set the more info you can get the better the chance you have to find the right drivers..

Post all info here someone can find what you are looking for..

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[Platypus]

Originally posted by honeybunnie2:
<STRONG>Which one of these do you suggest I use then?
There seems to be 7 choices.
I want to install win98SE when I'm all done and said.

Windows 98 SE
Windows 98
Windows 95 OSR2/2.1 98BOT10A.EXE
572 KB
(03-09-99) All Atapi Compliant and Adaptec
</STRONG>

HB2, if you are able to use an ordinary modern IDE drive to load Win98, use the first option above, ATAPI Compliant. Leave the flat data cable off the CR562 drive & temporarily hook up the IDE drive as slave with the hard drive. A bootable floppy disk made from the above file should boot up to an A: prompt, and give you access to the CD-ROM drive. I suggest if the hard drive is a reasonable size, copy the Win98 and Drivers folders from the CD to the hard drive. Shut down & swap the drives again, and run SETUP from the Win98 folder on the hard drive. If the interface will talk to the CR562 without software (some won't) Windows will find the drive & install it's own driver.

If the interface on that Oak card (or maybe it's integrated on the motherboard) has to be initialised by it's own DOS software, there may be a file on the driver disk called oemsetup.inf which could be examined to find out what file to run with what commands (messy). Or as a last resort, if as I suspect your driver disk is the install for Win 3.1, maybe you could find disks to install Windows 3.1 on the system, install the drivers, look in CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to find out how they are installed, then set the necessary ones up after re-installing Win 98. This would be VERY messy, and could make Win 98 unstable, or at least have to run in Compatability Mode, which hampers its performance.

Hope all this hasn't put you off! Good luck.

[honeybunnie2]

All I got from the A:\ prompt when I put in Q: was "Bad command or file name" <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
Maybe I just don't have my eyes crossed right..LOL.. Thanks any way for the suggestion.

Originally posted by Mad Machinist:
<STRONG>This may not be much help.....but when trying to load Win98 on a Packard Bell, when you get to a dos prompt change to Q drive. I have loaded win95/98 on dozens of old PB's.
When you get to Q prompt...type in setup and the win setup will begin and the cd will recognize and operate......same problem drove me insane for a month</STRONG>

[honeybunnie2]

Platypus, the sound and CD Rom are both intregated on the Mother board and there in lies the problem. It seems that no matter what Boot disk I have tried, every single one so far has told me there is no CD rom drive found and the drivers weren't installed.

Everything on the PB worked up until I FDISK and reformated, I wasn't worried because I did have what I thought were the right floppy with the drivers, but this floppy is only for windows after you have them installed. At the A prompt when trying to load them I get "win startup" I forget the rest right now..
Oh well I will keep plugging along and the solution will come to me some day.
I am one persistant old gal
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[Platypus]

I've emailed you the universal IDE driver I use. Also maybe try here:
http://www.panasonic.com/support/sof...oem_cd_dvd.htm

and download 56X_DOS.EXE and install the generic drivers for the CR562 (is it actually this drive?). If these drivers can't find the drive, and it was working before you re-formatted, I think for certain the interface needs to be initialised before it will talk to the drive.

Have you searched at Packard Bell's site for DOS drivers for the model of computer?

[imd14u]

Sorry if I sound DUH, but did you:

Format using the command?

format c: /s

And some drivers won't install correctly if you have more than 1 partition. The usual procedure that I do is:

FDISK make primary partition
format c: /s
install CD-ROM drivers
FDISK make extended partition, and logical drives.
Restart, drive letters are adjusted automatically.

This was the only way I knew the CD-ROM drivers would work properly. I remember long ago having a fight with my A+ instuctor about this.

Anyway, hope I was of help.

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[honeybunnie2]

b4uc1i81, that's the problem right there, I can't get the CD Rom drivers installed to do anything else. And yes I did use the Format c: /s command after I Fdisked.. It almost seems as though the bootup files aren't being copied to the hard drive, because when I try and install the rom and sound drivers it says it can't find the MSCDEX.EXE, so I copied that from the A and tried again, now it finds the file, but in the next step, it can't find the System.ini and I have to exit the setup.
P.S. I only have 1 partition set, this computer isn't bug enough for 2.

[imd14u]

What kind of boot disk are you using? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

[Sly]

I'll ask once more

• Who makes the cd-rom?
• Can you find a FCC ID # of the CD-ROM?
• What is the model number, and/or serial number of the computer (Packard Bell)?

If I can get these, I might find the solution to your problem.. <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

[honeybunnie2]

Sly69, Panasonic makes the CDROM here's the info I found on the back.
4Y15ACE00210
Manufactured 11-94
Model CR=562-B
Fcc ID IUO9TB008CRB
Matsu****a-Kotobuki Electronic

The only thing I could find on the CPU it's self isn't much and I don't know if one of these is the model number as I didn't see anything that said Model# on the back.

4001R1 (the last 1 could be another 4 or an L, it was pretty worn off)
8309013
Serial # 94100186605

This is every thing I could find on the back of the CPU after removing the cover.
If you need any bios info I can get you the info on the main screen of the bios. Thanks for your assistance..

P.S. I have tried using a win95 Boot disk and a win98 boot disk.

[Knucklehead]

Platypus is right on the money. Temporarily install an IDE CDROM as slave to the harddrive, boot with a Win98 boot disk, copy the Win98cd to the drive (if there is room), and install from there. It's nearly impossible to find the correct drivers for the proprietary controller that the CR-562-B uses; it was included in the factory boot disk for that computer. None of the generic IDE drivers will work with this CDROM so don't beat yourself up any longer trying them. (This was probably THE most common component in the popular Computer From Hell post in the Lounge Forum so don't feel bad!)

[honeybunnie2]

How do I leave the flat data cable off the CR562 drive and temp hookup the IDE drive as the slave.
I assume it's not the cable running out of the back of the CDROM that has to be moved but the other end of it, that's the one I don't know where to plug back in to make a slave...

[Platypus]

HB2, the IDE CD-ROM needs to be connected to the spare connector on the hard drive data cable, on the CR562 just pull the data cable out & leave it loose for now.

The IDE CD-ROM will be a slave if the small jumper block is across two pins usually labelled SL, generally near the data connector. There should be 3 sets of 2 pins labelled MA, SL & CS. The hard drive should already be a master, so the CD-ROM has to be slave.