XP 1800 in a destop case!

**ozrica** · June 19th, 2002, 02:53 AM

I am going to build a machine for a friend who MUST have a desktop case. The case measures 43cm Wide X 45cm Deep X 14cm High

The spec is going to be:

350 Watt PSU
Soltek SL-75DRV4 Mobo
AMD Athlon XP1800 with AMD retail fan.
256MB PC2100 Memory
64MB Leadtek Winfast Ti4200 Graphics Card
20GB 5400 Hard Disk
52X CDROM Drive
Floppy Drive
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Sound Card
56K Modem

I am not planning to overclock it to start but it is a possibilty.

Am I going to have trouble without any extra case fans even without overclocking?

Thanks in advance for you help.

Stuart

**Garak** · June 19th, 2002, 05:23 AM

I would look at some cases that allow good ventillation, as long as the machine is tidy (ie cables tied back nieatly and not obstructing airflow) you should not have any problems, but make sure you have a good fan in there,

Good Luck.

**MacGyver** · June 19th, 2002, 07:08 AM

I would definitely add at least one of these:

<a href="http://cyberguys.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?UID=2002061905581437&GEN6=00&GEN9=5CG 01&FNM=00&T1=148+0532&UREQA=1&UREQB=2&UREQC=3&UREQ D=4" target="_blank">http://cyberguys.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?UID=2002061905581437&GEN6=00&GEN9=5CG 01&FNM=00&T1=148+0532&UREQA=1&UREQB=2&UREQC=3&UREQ D=4</a>

The reason being the desktop case does not likely have a spot for a rear 80mm fan.

**rdbatch** · June 19th, 2002, 08:40 AM

I would try to find a case like Compaq is using, they have the cases that can be used as either a tower or a desktop case. They are decent cases and it has plenty of space for air flow and to add additional fans as one sees fit.

**Stalemate** · June 19th, 2002, 10:04 AM

Review of the <a href="http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=162" target="_blank">Cooler Master ATC-600 Desktop Case</a> (AL) and <a href="http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=281" target="_blank">another here</a>.

Specs from the <a href="http://www.coolermaster.com/products/atc/atc600.html" target="_blank">website</a>.

Looks real good. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

**JungleMan1** · June 19th, 2002, 02:07 PM

It's a rather expensive case though..at least it was the last time I checked.

**DiR[ëctory]** · June 19th, 2002, 02:17 PM

I had a book pc type case before, never had any trouble with overheating etc. it had 256 PC133 Ram 30 gig 7200 RPM HD, PIII 733 mhz proc.

it was real stable.

good luck.

**JungleMan1** · June 19th, 2002, 09:06 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
I had a book pc type case before, never had any trouble with overheating etc. it had 256 PC133 Ram 30 gig 7200 RPM HD, PIII 733 mhz proc.

it was real stable.

good luck.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, but then again that's an Intel system...P3 733s don't generate nearly as much heat as AMD XP 1800s.

**Radical Dreamer** · June 25th, 2002, 09:17 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JungleMan:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
I had a book pc type case before, never had any trouble with overheating etc. it had 256 PC133 Ram 30 gig 7200 RPM HD, PIII 733 mhz proc.

it was real stable.

good luck.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, but then again that's an Intel system...P3 733s don't generate nearly as much heat as AMD XP 1800s.<hr /></blockquote>No, but by god a P4 1.6 is hotter than a AMD of the same speed hands down, I dont know where people get the notion that Intel is cooler because from personal experience.....they're not

**cookin chef** · June 25th, 2002, 11:00 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Radical Dreamer:
[/qb]<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, but then again that's an Intel system...P3 733s don't generate nearly as much heat as AMD XP 1800s.[/QUOTE]No, but by god a P4 1.6 is hotter than a AMD of the same speed hands down, I dont know where people get the notion that Intel is cooler because from personal experience.....they're not[/QB][/QUOTE]

Very True, the P4 1.6 can be just as hot if not hotter than amd of certain speeds. It is just how intel designed the heatsink/fan for it. A tiny processor with a huge heatsink/fan overtop of it with thermal tape or grease to disapate heat more efficiently.

When you shutdown a p4, the heatsink is still hot to touch, take it off and the cpu feels like it was never hot in the 1st place.

Amd isn't quite like that, both the heatsink and cpu can be warm to the touch when shut down right away and taken apart.

Sure hope Amd will adopt that same method as Intel sometime soon.

**ozrica** · June 26th, 2002, 02:44 AM

Thanks for all the replies.

The machine is now built. At full load the CPU temp is 55 degrees.

The main problem is the amount of heat that the hard drives produce. I'll have to sort out something for those but as usual with the CPU fan, PSU fan, mobo chipset fan and the GF4 fan it all gets a bit noisy.

The guy who I built it for insists on having it stuffed under a shelf with very little air movement at the back.

As always there has to be extra problems and issues!

Thanks agian.

Stuart

**Auric** · July 23rd, 2002, 07:05 PM

Well Ozrica, if he insists on placing it in a desk like that then its his own perogative, for future ref, i see im a little late, but Enlight makes some real nice desktop cases, We use them all the time at work for the school board systems and what not.

**TrackMan** · July 27th, 2002, 09:01 AM

Compaq uses Palo Alto cases, I believe the model in their dektop/tower cases is 604, you can buy the case online with a different, non-Compaq faceplate.

**Chris_MacMahon** · July 27th, 2002, 12:00 PM

if cost as not at option...you could add a water cooling kit...no fans inside, cooler and much less noisy, tom's did one i belive that had hd/cipset/vid/cpu cooling just a though.

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