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May 25th, 2002, 09:58 PM
#1
Registered User
DSL Internet Connection Sharing
Silly question here... I have a 3 PC LAN at home. I use a Win2K box as my ICS machine. I'm switching to DSL at the end of this month and would like to know whether I should be sharing the NIC or the PPPoE adapter. Anyone?
Thanks...
"Without fools there would be no wisdom."
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May 26th, 2002, 12:52 AM
#2
Registered User
Depends what service your paying for.
In the UK The buisness sevice as supplied by BT is supplied with a 4 port router/modem [normally] and the home service is either supplied with a USB modem or you buy your own[dependent on installation fee],this is supposed to be a one PC situation only as per their rules of service,but some people fit router modems for a more secure network [which may or include a firewall within the router on the dearer models]
There are routers that can go after the USB ADSL modem or you can get a router modem,heres a few UK sites for refference:
<a href="http://www.seg.co.uk/draytek/products/vigor2200usb.html" target="_blank">http://www.seg.co.uk/draytek/products/vigor2200usb.html</a>
<a href="http://www.nothing-on.tv/adsl/list_modems.php" target="_blank">http://www.nothing-on.tv/adsl/list_modems.php</a>
<a href="http://www.lawyersonline.co.uk/adsl/techinfo.html" target="_blank">http://www.lawyersonline.co.uk/adsl/techinfo.html</a>
<a href="http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm" target="_blank">http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.solwise.co.uk/adsl-usb.htm" target="_blank">http://www.solwise.co.uk/adsl-usb.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q1/amx-ca61e.asp" target="_blank">http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q1/amx-ca61e.asp</a>
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May 26th, 2002, 12:56 AM
#3
Registered User
You can't use ICS with broadband internet. You need a router and a switch.
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May 26th, 2002, 12:58 AM
#4
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May 26th, 2002, 03:17 AM
#5
Registered User
Sure you can. I found the answer to my question right here:
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947</a>
Don't scare me like that man, you just about gave me heart palpitations! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
"Without fools there would be no wisdom."
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May 26th, 2002, 08:11 PM
#6
Not that I dont trust Win2k and microsofts legendary l33t0r security, but if I was going to DSL (or any form of broadband with staticish IP's) i would look a decent router, and use a linux firewall. Aside from the security issues, the magical things you can do with an e-smith, or BSD, or Debian box are just fabulous.
My 0.2c
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May 26th, 2002, 09:52 PM
#7
Registered User
Thanks for the info. Right now my network is phoneline based, so a router just isn't feasible unless I upgrade to a wireless network (running ethernet cables is not an option). I will probably go in that direction eventually, but for now I was simply planning on going with a software firewall. I've played with BlackIce Defender and Norton, but wasn't totally enamored with either, and Zone Alarm has a reputation for being a trouble maker (although I actually haven't toyed with it myself), so I'm definitely open to suggestions.
"Without fools there would be no wisdom."
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May 27th, 2002, 07:10 AM
#8
just use the pppoe connection and install zonealarm on all the pcs...sure I would agree that a router is probably best this way works just fine.
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May 27th, 2002, 11:41 AM
#9
Registered User
Thanks... that's exactly what I was planning on doing. Unfortunately, I did try Zone Alarm Pro 3.0 last night and my ICS machine immediately turned into Sybil. Apps weren't loading properly on startup, programs kept crashing (I hit ctrl-alt-del more times in one hour than I have in the last six months), even Zone Alarm itself would start, but wouldn't show up in the system tray. It was horrible. I'm not saying it was a bad recommendation on your part, though. I dug through all the customer reviews I could find before installing it, and either they were delighted beyond words, or it made their PC totally unstable. There seemed to be very little middle ground. Unfortunately for me I fell into the latter group. I'm quickly realizing that there's no such thing as the perfect software firewall. I'm just going to have to keep experimenting and eventually go with the lesser of all evils.
"Without fools there would be no wisdom."
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May 27th, 2002, 04:26 PM
#10
Registered User
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mrwilhelm:
<strong>Sure you can. I found the answer to my question right here:
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947</a>
Don't scare me like that man, you just about gave me heart palpitations! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I'll be..! Seeing that just about gave ME a heart attack! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
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May 28th, 2002, 11:32 AM
#11
Registered User
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Web:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mrwilhelm:
<strong>Sure you can. I found the answer to my question right here:
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947</a>
Don't scare me like that man, you just about gave me heart palpitations! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I'll be..! Seeing that just about gave ME a heart attack! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey webby you some kind of a newbie or something? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> LOL
PS The Spidey movie kicks BUTT
"I feel like one of those mass murderers on death row. I never understood how the hell they got more chicks than I did. Now I know. They sold crap on eBay." -- Anonymous ebayer
"I figured out what's wrong with life: it's other people." -- Dilbert
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May 28th, 2002, 11:55 AM
#12
Registered User
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gollo:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Web:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mrwilhelm:
<strong>Sure you can. I found the answer to my question right here:
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306947</a>
Don't scare me like that man, you just about gave me heart palpitations! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I'll be..! Seeing that just about gave ME a heart attack! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey webby you some kind of a newbie or something? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> LOL
PS The Spidey movie kicks BUTT</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude,... as far as I knew one could NOT use ICS on broadband. But hey,.. proved me wrong for sure!! I swear, I researched this one for hours and hours about a year ago, and could not find a way. But anyway, cool. And yeah that Spidey movie rocked. I can't wait for the DVD.
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May 29th, 2002, 06:53 AM
#13
Driver Terrier
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mrwilhelm:
<strong>Thanks... that's exactly what I was planning on doing. Unfortunately, I did try Zone Alarm Pro 3.0 last night and my ICS machine immediately turned into Sybil. Apps weren't loading properly on startup, programs kept crashing (I hit ctrl-alt-del more times in one hour than I have in the last six months), even Zone Alarm itself would start, but wouldn't show up in the system tray. It was horrible. I'm not saying it was a bad recommendation on your part, though. I dug through all the customer reviews I could find before installing it, and either they were delighted beyond words, or it made their PC totally unstable. There seemed to be very little middle ground. Unfortunately for me I fell into the latter group. I'm quickly realizing that there's no such thing as the perfect software firewall. I'm just going to have to keep experimenting and eventually go with the lesser of all evils.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Zone alarm will work with 2k and 2k pro very nicely, it does not, however play nice with 2k server or advanced server.
Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."
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June 4th, 2002, 02:13 AM
#14
Registered User
Well, just to give you guys an update now that my DSL is active:
ICS may support DSL, but for me at least it's not behaving properly. Everything works fine on the host machine, but half the websites I try to visit on the client PC's won't load at all (including this one). I tried switching to a 3rd party proxie program (Analog X's Proxie), and that solves my surfing problem on the client machines, but I can't get the e-mail to work at all. The workaround for now is to use the proxie program for browsing on the client boxes and ICS for everything else. So far that seems to work just fine, but every fiber in my being says that it can't be good running these two together. Not to mention the fact that I don't care for workarounds and really prefer things to work as they should (yeah I know, who doesn't ).
I don't suppose any of you guys have any thoughts as to what might be going on here or how to fix it?
"Without fools there would be no wisdom."
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June 4th, 2002, 07:45 AM
#15
As far as ICS goes, I've usually had good luck with it, so I can't help you there. Uninstall and reinstall ICS would be a start. I would consider a dedicated firewall. If you have an old pc (p100 works just fine) all you would have to do is install a couple of network cards and ipcop(www.ipcop.org) and you have a firewall that will share your internet connection. You can also get a floppy disk based firewall(no hard drive needed) at <a href="http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/" target="_blank">http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/</a>
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