The moon landing

[ricco]

I'm sure you gentlemen in America will apreciate this:
Last night on tv, a program was on about the moon landing and how much of a hoax it all was. I missed the program, but I hear the information was pretty believable. Itg had a lot of science backing up how a human could not survive let alone walk on the moon because of the temperature variations and emitted radiation. Also how the van halen belt would have caused a lot of problems
It also talked about how Apollo 13 was faked to increase veiwing figures.
What is your opinion on this matter? I know it has shattered all my *****ions in life.

[http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin/forum1/noncgi]

And pro-wrestling is an honest sport! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

I tend classify the moon landing conspiracy theorists right up there with the people who claim the Holocaust was made up and people who claim Elvis is still alive.

(The real story is that Elvis IS alive, and battling aliens on another planet! I read about it in a newspaper in the supermarket checkout line!) <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[MacGyver]

You can believe that it was all a hoax, however if you really wanted, you could dispute anything that happened in history.

That bit about astronauts not being able to survive with the radiation, that's a pile of it. Astronauts do spacewalks all the time outside the shuttle, and they're still alive. Temperature variations, gee isn't that what a space suit is for? They are designed with heating and cooling pipes woven into their long underwear!

[kingtbone]

Damn, I wanted to see that. I've heard of that program being on before. I guess there really is a ton of scientific evidence to dispute it all. One thing they said was in the original landing, when they stuck a flag in the ground, the flag was waving in the air. (Interesting when there is practically no atmosphere) Then they superimposed the background of two different moon landings on one another, and they were identical. Anyone have any idea who made this show, or what station it's on.

[GimpBizkit]

Originally posted by The bear:
<STRONG>Also how the van halen belt would have caused a lot of problems</STRONG>

I have a Van Halen T-shirt and have never had any trouble out of it. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[AHTTech]

Yup and satellites don't exist, and the SST doesn't exist, and cell phones don't, everything is in our imagination, man will never be in space. But aliens DO exist!

[Stalemate]

I think I saw this on the Space Channel.

A lot of it made you think about what we take for granted.

The superimposed video scene was puzzling though - backdrop was IDENTICAL - down to rock formations and shadows - but supposedly taken on 2 different days and a few kilometers apart.

Some pictures also looked falsified (shadows not respecting angle of the sunlight, multiple powerful light sources, "cross" marks on photos partially superimposed with equipment or astronauts).

It wasn't enough to make me scream out "conspiracy", but you have to admire the depth of detail to which some of these guys went.

[valyard]

Watch the movie Capricorn One for a good story like this hoax stuff <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

[Polychronopolis]

I happen to be one of the people that caught that show. Mind you, I'm only 24 and I never heard the arguments about the Lunar Landing being a hoax.

I sat it complete disbelief through the entire show. They had VERY compelling arguments. I wish that I would have taped it. The one that got me was the lunar rover footage. If you have Media Player 7, watch this <a href="http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/Videos/StarChild/space/rover2.avi">movie</a>. Now, with MP7, watch the movie in double time by clicking the double foward arrow. Looks to me to simply be a souped up dune buggy running in Earth's environment.

Need more.. Well, why are there NO stars in pictures from the moon? Someone mentioned space walks.. Well, all the space walks have happened outside of the Van Allen radiation belt. The trip to the moon would have taken the astronauts through the Van Allen belt where they would be exposed to extreme radiation.

Still not convinced? Well, I found a website that has a lot of the interesting data posted. If you're really interested, they even have a video you can order.
http://www.aulis.com/nasa.htm

Personally, I think it's an eerie thought that something that major could have been faked. It is even more scary that all NASA can do is say, "The proof is in the pictures. This hoax theory is nonsense." The show went into great detail of faults in the pictures. You'd think that NASA would debate the arguments if they weren't hiding something..


<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> --So Ponders Polychronopolis..
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[NeuromancerIV]

"Never attribute to coincidence that which can be linked to popular current Conspiracy Theory(ies)." I'm not even gonna talk about the incredibly flimsy house of card that show was built on. Remember "Alien Autopsy" for mithra's sake!!!

Anyone shave with Occam's Razor here?

Come on!! Can't you hear the loons? And tin foil caps will keep the secret messages sent via microwave from the NSA out of your brain!!

[NakedMessiah]

Originally posted by The bear:
[QB]Also how the van halen belt would have caused a lot of problems
QB]

My Van Halen Belt just doesn't do the job like my Batman Utility Belt.

[crackbeer]

That show was simply preying on the fact that the average person doesn't know much about science.

Check out http://www.badastronomy.com for a point by point rebuttal of every single one of the points made by that show. Oh, except for the one that the show didn't make. The show didn't mention a thing about the 800 pounds of moon rocks the guys brought back, did it?

And as for the show suggesting that Gus Grissom and crew were murdered in that capsule fire because they were going to reveal the hoax....that's absolutely heinous and despicable.

[IronTech]

Originally posted by The bear:
<STRONG>Also how the van halen belt would have caused a lot of problems
</STRONG>

That's the Van Alen belt. The Van Halen Belt is quite unstable, breaking up then reforming time after time. That's mostly due to the Haggar influence. hehe

[WesFlash]

With the large number of "amateur" astronomers out there, you think you would have heard something about the Moon Landers and the mother craft going no where near the moon too.

I have my personal beliefs. Anybody remember the astronauts talking about "Santa Clause" in July? I remember that was supposedly a code word for alien craft buzzing the space craft, but the only thing I ever saw is a disputed and very out of focus photograph of a supposed UFO that is just out of focus enough to be a reflection of the earth off of a window or something from inside the capsule.
What about the ancient civilizations that knoew of 8 and even 9 planets? Huh? They had no telescopes, so how did they know? Some things aren't so easily answered. I'm glad a few people are smart enough to read between the lines and observe things a bit more clearly that many others.

[Wayward Clam]

Originally posted by WesFlash:
<STRONG>What about the ancient civilizations that knoew of 8 and even 9 planets? Huh? They had no telescopes, so how did they know? Some things aren't so easily answered. I'm glad a few people are smart enough to read between the lines and observe things a bit more clearly that many others.</STRONG>

Hey Wesflash, did you ever see that documentary on the Mayans' astronomy/religion that allowed them to predict (supposedly) eight hundred years of civil war, and the Spanish conquest to the year?