I need Music download advice

**rtucker** · June 19th, 2002, 05:09 PM

I am a big music fanatic. I am also a bigtime computer user so as you can guess, i like the download services that the internet has to offer but recently I decided to get rid of the service I was using, GROKSTER. This is because I found out that if someone has a file from KaZaa, it is more than likely infected with a virus. I got a tip from my high school computer tech teacher to download AVG to scan my computer to avoid getting anymore viruses because after I did my first virus scan, the program found a virus called Benjamin. I was not sure what to do so I called my tech teacher and she ended up having to come over to my house to help get my computer back to working order. So I have not yet downloaded another music download service in fear of getting another virus. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone has any suggestions on a safe download service. I have saved my music from the other service and the files are clean but there are new songs coming out that I want to download. So any music download services suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

**EvilCabbage** · June 19th, 2002, 05:57 PM

I suggest you go and buy music if you want it that badly.

I do not condone the use of P2P programs that are largely used to pirate music, applications, or any copyrighted material. I suggest no one else does either.

Go away. Ta.

**DiR[ëctory]** · June 19th, 2002, 06:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
I suggest you go and buy music if you want it that badly.

I do not condone the use of P2P programs that are largely used to pirate music, applications, or any copyrighted material. I suggest no one else does either.

Go away. Ta.<hr /></blockquote>what a way to welcome a new member....

**+Daemon+** · June 19th, 2002, 06:14 PM

if you want none illegal audio files download ogg file

same thing as mp3's only they have a differnt extention .ogg not .mp3

plus ogg is a free open source music format

**moliver** · June 19th, 2002, 06:17 PM

Haven't had much trouble out of Kazaa, just kill the Spyware. And try not to steal. Here's my opinion, like it matters. 99% of what I download has been bought at one time on LP, 8track, cassette or cd. this is a more convenient way of putting it on my pc. Look out, here come the flames.

**EvilCabbage** · June 19th, 2002, 06:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
what a way to welcome a new member....<hr /></blockquote>What a way to ask its first question...

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Originally posted by rtucker:

"help me pirate music!"

<hr /></blockquote>I dont care what your personal gripes are with the MPAA, or RIAA (or whatever they are calling themselves this week), but this sort of topic has been covered far too much already, and does not deserve any further space.

Perhaps you think this is over-reacting, fine. You are welcome to an opinion, just as I am. Remember, this harmless file sharing might be all well and good, until someone steals your work, of course.

**NooNoo** · June 20th, 2002, 03:08 AM

Had a retail tech in the chatroom this morning, has a customer's machine full of Benjamin.... Basically it has done its work and it is format time.

The customer is whining that he is going to lose all his files.

I pointed out they were not his in the first place. Funny, it didn't go down too well.....

**MacGyver** · June 20th, 2002, 04:28 AM

This is basically the only one that works anymore:

<a href="http://download.gnutelliums.com/gnotella/gnotella.exe" target="_blank">http://download.gnutelliums.com/gnotella/gnotella.exe</a>

No spyware in this one, but it's out of date and there's no guarantee you won't download something bogus.

**Cygnus** · June 20th, 2002, 06:19 AM

If thats your thing, I say increase your security and keep on plugging at it. You probably wont have those services for a whole lot longer.

For the record: I have been playing music for 14 years and have spent 5 of those years as a proffessional musician. In that time file shareing services like Napster helped spread my music around and got more people to my shows than any amount of promo work that the indie label I was on did. These P2P services arent all peaches and cream but they have been and still are a help to many. Just like with everything else, you have to take the bad with the good.

**kato** · June 20th, 2002, 06:26 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
what a way to welcome a new member....<hr /></blockquote>What a way to ask its first question...

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Originally posted by rtucker:

"help me pirate music!"

<hr /></blockquote>I dont care what your personal gripes are with the MPAA, or RIAA (or whatever they are calling themselves this week), but this sort of topic has been covered far too much already, and does not deserve any further space.

Perhaps you think this is over-reacting, fine. You are welcome to an opinion, just as I am. Remember, this harmless file sharing might be all well and good, until someone steals your work, of course.<hr /></blockquote>\

I just wonder why you don't jump on regular forum members who readily admit to using p2p software and downloaded music in other threads. There was just one in the steam room a few days ago. You are always ready to flex your muscles and jump all over a newbie though. . .

**NooNoo** · June 20th, 2002, 07:03 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kato:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
what a way to welcome a new member....<hr /></blockquote>What a way to ask its first question...

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Originally posted by rtucker:

"help me pirate music!"

<hr /></blockquote>I dont care what your personal gripes are with the MPAA, or RIAA (or whatever they are calling themselves this week), but this sort of topic has been covered far too much already, and does not deserve any further space.

Perhaps you think this is over-reacting, fine. You are welcome to an opinion, just as I am. Remember, this harmless file sharing might be all well and good, until someone steals your work, of course.<hr /></blockquote>\

I just wonder why you don't jump on regular forum members who readily admit to using p2p software and downloaded music in other threads. There was just one in the steam room a few days ago. You are always ready to flex your muscles and jump all over a newbie though. . .

<hr /></blockquote>Perhaps Kato, I am reading this all wrong, but I do not see EC "jumping all over" a newbie. I see EC expressing his dislike for people who steal. I believe if you check what EC said about his .ogg format that he ripped his own cds.. not downloaded stuff he hadn't paid for.

I believe when you register you are informed that no illegal activities maybe discussed. P2P music download is illegal when the music is copyrighted. Therefore this "newbie" deliberately ignored the rules of the forum and EC in his australian fashion gave his viewpoint.

**NooNoo** · June 20th, 2002, 07:11 AM

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**EvilCabbage** · June 20th, 2002, 07:48 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kato:
[QBI just wonder why you don't jump on regular forum members who readily admit to using p2p software and downloaded music in other threads. There was just one in the steam room a few days ago. You are always ready to flex your muscles and jump all over a newbie though. . .

[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>Always ready to flex my muscle, and jump all over a newbie?

Bah, humbug I say.

I believe I expressed my distaste for theft in the Steam Room also. Try reading everything in careful detail, before cramming those feet in your mouth, pal.

**kato** · June 20th, 2002, 07:48 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by NooNoo:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kato:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
what a way to welcome a new member....<hr /></blockquote>What a way to ask its first question...

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Originally posted by rtucker:

"help me pirate music!"

<hr /></blockquote>I dont care what your personal gripes are with the MPAA, or RIAA (or whatever they are calling themselves this week), but this sort of topic has been covered far too much already, and does not deserve any further space.

Perhaps you think this is over-reacting, fine. You are welcome to an opinion, just as I am. Remember, this harmless file sharing might be all well and good, until someone steals your work, of course.<hr /></blockquote>\

I just wonder why you don't jump on regular forum members who readily admit to using p2p software and downloaded music in other threads. There was just one in the steam room a few days ago. You are always ready to flex your muscles and jump all over a newbie though. . .

<hr /></blockquote>Perhaps Kato, I am reading this all wrong, but I do not see EC "jumping all over" a newbie. I see EC expressing his dislike for people who steal. I believe if you check what EC said about his .ogg format that he ripped his own cds.. not downloaded stuff he hadn't paid for.

<hr /></blockquote>that's exactly my point noo noo, in that very same thread, regular forum members were discussing using kazzaa, winmx and other file sharing software and the only comment EC had was about OGG format. Why not rip me, jungleman, taz, doc pc and everyone else who mentioned downloading mp3's in that thread. There was not one comment from EC to the extent of "Buy your music .. . . go away" only and explanation of OGG format and to say he has no mp3's. I just don't see the consistency there?

and though I agree that these topics started by new members are almost always about downloading copyrighted songs, no where in this particular post did the user mention he was downloading illegal music. just simply music. It's a fine line, I know . . . but still. When ever someone asks a question about win98 we don't assume they have a pirated copy installed even though a lot of times that's the case.

If someone posts "How do I steal music" word for word in the subject, I'll be right there to say "go away" but when someone asks about security risks of file sharing software he is in no way declaring explicitly that he is engaging in illegal activities and should be given the benefit of the doubt.

**EvilCabbage** · June 20th, 2002, 07:53 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kato:
that's exactly my point noo noo, in that very same thread, regular forum members were discussing using kazzaa, winmx and other file sharing software and the only comment EC had was about OGG format. Why not rip me, jungleman, taz, doc pc and everyone else who mentioned downloading mp3's in that thread. ???<hr /></blockquote>Fine, let me re-iterate my point from the SR thread.

I have ripped my CD's to the hard drive on my work PC, so I dont run the risk of damaging, or otherwise missing out on having my music with me. The CD's stay on the shelf to my left. Whatever format its in, (be it .ogg at the moment) is irrelevant. I own the music.

When JungleMan hinted at using P2P software for questionable purposes, I briefly said my piece, and left it at that.

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