Persian Gulf Oil

[jaeger]

This is just me wanting to see what the popular conception of the percentage of oil the USA gets per day from the Persian Gulf region is.

[cookin chef]

I took a wild guess around 50%. It could be higher.
I do understand the U.S. doesn't buy any Iraqi oil because the oil embargo or economic sanctions imposed on oil

Sigh!!! The U.N. inspection report for Iraq this monday is supposed to give Iraq a passing grade for cooperation.
Mr. Bush accuses the Iraqi Government of threatening their scientists with death if they dare speak to the inspectors. Some of the scientists are supposedly an Iraqi soldier impersonating a scientist.
The Iraqi gov't states their scientist refuse to be interviewed with the U.N. Inspectors because they don't trust Bush.

The irony of it all.

[emr]

Originally posted by cookin chef
Sigh!!! The U.N. inspection report for Iraq this monday is supposed to give Iraq a passing grade for cooperation.

Why is that a bad thing? Would you be happier if they gave them a fail for not cooperating?

[flying pig]

It is known that the US buys oil from Iraq by using a third country that buys from Iraq and sells it to US .

But I think that most of the US incoming oil doesn't come from the middle east ,I know that Angola ,Venezuela and Russia sells big to the US .I would guess 30% come from middle east.

[gazzak]

Personally I think it's very very high. 75 - 100%.

Is this thread leading towards the "war is a cover for taking over the oil" theory, because that's complete trash. The people who peddle this line are the same ones who think man never landed on the moon! And whilst I'm in precher mode, why does the evening news show the 100 or so anti war protesters every night and not the millions who back it 100%?

[Wayward Clam]

Originally posted by gazzak
Personally I think it's very very high. 75 - 100%.

Is this thread leading towards the "war is a cover for taking over the oil" theory, because that's complete trash. The people who peddle this line are the same ones who think man never landed on the moon! And whilst I'm in precher mode, why does the evening news show the 100 or so anti war protesters every night and not the millions who back it 100%?

Dude, you are wrong on all counts.

If it were a war about human rights violations, the USA would be at war with a dozen other countries right now that are worse than Iraq in their human rights violations.

And I know about a hundred people PERSONALLY who would protest against the war, and maybe only a dozen who would support it...

[Ya_know]

So what is the actual percentage? I don't give a damn about a general consensus, most of us here aren't even aware, we are just guessing.

So what are the facts?

[jaeger]

Out of 10,783,000 barrels a day of crude oil and refined products, 2,140,000 come from the Persian Gulf (a hair under 20%).

Top 4 suppliers:

Canada - 1,939,000
Saudi Arabia - 1,690,000
Venezuela - 1,599,000
Mexico - 1,340,000

These figures are as of December 2002.

Source: http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...ortexport.html

[Thunderwind]

Originally posted by Wayward Clam
Dude, you are wrong on all counts.

If it were a war about human rights violations, the USA would be at war with a dozen other countries right now that are worse than Iraq in their human rights violations.

And I know about a hundred people PERSONALLY who would protest against the war, and maybe only a dozen who would support it...

It is not just about human rights, if that where true, China would practiclly be at the top. It is about a chaotic lunitic that is making outlawed chem & bio weapons. Do you think someone like him would think twice about selling them to a terrorist organisation? If he hasn't yet anyway!

[ilovetheusers]

I find it interesting that we get so little oil from the middle east.


One thing I'd like to point out is that peace has been tried for the last few years. It failed miserably. I was watching one of the former weapons inspectors last night and he was on about how this whole process was a load and it was obvious to him that Iraq did in fact have a chemical weapon arsenal that they had hidden or had already distributed elsewhere.

The reason that it is important to oust sadam is that he supports terrorists. I don't have direct proof of this laying in front of me but in this case (loathe as I am to do so) I am going to actually take the word of our leaders that he's going to be a problem.

The problem is not that another country has chemical weapons. We don't care that a country has them - most countries have them and we trust them not to use them. In this case, Sadam will very likely give them to terrorists who will use them without hesitation given the chance and he has used them himself several times. It's not the weapon of mass destruction that needs to be worried about, it's who has it and how likely they are to use them.

[Orangeman]

Why don't we solve this oil crisis right now....Just tear up the entire state of Texas until we find some more.

If we don't find any, so what, I don't think anybody here would miss it...*Texas that is.......eh, eh, eh

[meatwad]

I here there's plenty of oil in Alaska, we just can't get the Caribou Mafia to let us have it.

[jaeger]

I've stayed away from the Iraq issue online as much as possible, but the terrorist-Iraq connection begs involvement. Saddam may very well provide safe haven and possibly even conventional weapons, but I doubt he would provide any weapon to a terrorist group that could later be effectively used against him, with the possible exception of chemcal weapons to Palestinian groups. And feelings are so mixed on the Israel-Palestine issue that I've heard some truly stunning reactions to Palestinians getting those weapons.

I can understand the popular resistance to the threat of war in Iraq. The US looks like a bully. In the past few years, we've engaged in some conflicts while ignoring others in an odd pattern. Oil in some, absolutely nothing in others. Never complete victories and sometimes complete failures. Pulling out whether the job is done or not. Frankly, no wonder so much of the world would rather see nothing happen than watch armed conflict followed by yet another misstep. This time the USA must absolutely step up and stay in Iraq long enough to ensure stability.

Screw the oil factor. We can and should buy it from Russia. They have the deposits and need the currency not to mention they are not a member of OPEC. Besides, nothing like a steady flow of money with no idealogy to interfere to make for a strong friendship.

[Wayward Clam]

Originally posted by jaeger
Top 4 suppliers:

Canada - 1,939,000
Saudi Arabia - 1,690,000
Venezuela - 1,599,000
Mexico - 1,340,000

Shhhh!!!! You'll have Bush invading up here next!!!

[Major Kong]

Originally posted by Wayward Clam
Shhhh!!!! You'll have Bush invading up here next!!!

HE SHOULD!!! Everyone knows the Yukon is stealing Alaskan Oil from the wildlife refuge!

Plenty of oil, natural gas and low sulfer coal (along with coal bed methane) up here. + geothermal out the ying-yang. Just no infastructure to get to a lot of it (no roads or rail). Makes exploration and development extremely expensive. Eastern Siberia is experiencing the same problems - lot's of minerals, hugely expensive development. The Russian gov't doesn't have the $$$, so they have partnered with BP, Phillips, Exxon Mobile, Barrick, BHP, Anglo-American to help develop their natural resources.