Laptop is running win2k, with the xircom driver winders already had. I don't think I've got the old router firmware. Are older versions still available? I'll try a few different things when I can. Right now I'm strugling with running NT4 on my dual TBird box, because I have to run a customer's DB on here.....its been fun, lemme tell ya. Ah, viewing forums in 640x480, 16 color