Via onboard lan problems

[HipHoper]

I have some connectivity problems with some onboard via lan chipsets.
One of my client have 2 computers with the onboard via lan that he bought 1.5 years apart from eachother.
The card can't talk to eachother with an rg45 crossover cable.
I even brought realtek 8139 pci and try it on both of the computer with the crossover cable without success.
I managed to fix it by adding an old 8029 card on one of the computers.
The second problem is that a new onboard via lan chip did not talk to a motorola cable modem and i solve it by adding realtek 8139 to this computer.
This computer had some problems and now i use it (gave the client another one).
I'm having a problem using the onboard card with my adsl router, it seems to work very slow and only when i connect 8139 card it works fine.
tried lots of drivers but no success.
Please tell me your opinion.
Thanks

[NooNoo]

Tried the newest lan drivers?

[TripleRLtd]

Tried the newest lan drivers?

Seems he's tried drivers, but perhaps not the newest.
But it goes back to the point I originally raised with that member having problems with onboard sound.
You said I wasn't helping.
But, what do you do if everything you do fails?
Sometimes it isn't only about drivers.
A NIC card costs about $15 and sound about the same.
So, if the onboard chip is bad, do you just add a card, or do you replace the whole mainboard and all the time it would take?
To replace or not to replace?
Ah, another one of those type questions.
But this one has validity and would like forum opinions.

[dddwarp]

I would hard set the NICs to 10 half and see if it works. I have had problems with some NICs not auto neg with certain equipment. You will need to hard set both sides to the same.

[Ya_know]

Now I've seen everything, TripleRLtd throwing in the towel early!

[TripleRLtd]

Now I've seen everything, TripleRLtd throwing in the towel early!

Is giving up on a bad onboard chip, whether sound or lan throwing in the towel?
It's the same as a bad whatever card.
No driver updates are going to make a bad card work!!
Hip replaced the onboard with a NIC card and said it works fine.
So, back to the question:
What do you do if an onboad chip is bad, but it is only sound or lan, which can be replaced by a cheap card?

[HipHoper]

Well, tried the drivers and 10 half, but no success....
any suggestions ?

[HipHoper]

It is really a matter of person.
If your time is precious, you will replace card with a new one.
If youre bored and have lot of used stuff, it seems like one of the cards in your stock will find its way to the f#$@en computer....

[NooNoo]

OK so the hard way would be to remove ALL networking components in safe mode - disable the onboard in bios - remove the tcpip stuff in the registry as per mskb's - method depending on which os you have. When you are absolutely sure you have a clean non networking os, you load the via 4 in 1's if its a via chipset and you then re enable the onboard and load the nic drivers.

I have to say that formatting with one hand tied behind your back will be quicker.....

[Ya_know]

Is giving up on a bad onboard chip, whether sound or lan throwing in the towel?
It's the same as a bad whatever card.
No driver updates are going to make a bad card work!!
Hip replaced the onboard with a NIC card and said it works fine.
So, back to the question:
What do you do if an onboad chip is bad, but it is only sound or lan, which can be replaced by a cheap card?

But you're the "No Format Master", surely you have a remedy other than that? He has two of these PC's, how could both exhibit the same failed chip? Odds are against it that is...

[TripleRLtd]

But you're the "No Format Master", surely you have a remedy other than that? He has two of these PC's, how could both exhibit the same failed chip? Odds are against it that is...

Are the odds really against it?
I just got back from a job to replace a modem.
All three Intel branded (Ambient): bad!!
Bad batch?
Who knows with the sad lack of quality control on parts coming out of SE Asia theseday.
Whatever, now I am out of modems, but since I never give up, I will test them in a known working machine
Hmmm, yes he did say two boards of different vintage.
Perhaps a surge/spike took out the lan chips?
Whatever, the only thing now is to do as NooNoo said.
But, since I never format
and he says he has plenty of old parts around, start with a fresh clean drive, and then follow NooNoo's advice.
If they still don't network, what would you do Ya_K?