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  1. February 17th, 2004, 03:32 PM #1
    SirWise
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    CCNA or MCSE

    I am about to go take one of those Intense Training Network bootcamps. I was wondering if anyone here is in the Networking line of work, maybe even a manager. I'm from NJ/NYC area.

    No, I'm not looking for a job, I am looking for advice. What is more in demand in the job market at the moment, someone with MCSE or someone with CCNA. I am unsure of which one to take first.

    I would like any advice I can get.
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  2. February 17th, 2004, 03:52 PM #2
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    Take the CCNA first. It's not that hard and it's shorter. It's also an excellent foundation in networking.
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  3. February 17th, 2004, 03:56 PM #3
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    Forget the boot camps. They teach you how to regurgitate information for a test, if you wait to long to take the tests, you forget everything. As far as jobs, experience is the only thing that is solid. Certifications only show a certain commitment to the knowledge, but experience shows you know how to use it...
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  4. February 17th, 2004, 05:04 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ya_know
    Forget the boot camps. They teach you how to regurgitate information for a test, if you wait to long to take the tests, you forget everything. As far as jobs, experience is the only thing that is solid. Certifications only show a certain commitment to the knowledge, but experience shows you know how to use it...

    The boot camps give you the exam at the end of it. And what you are saying is a Catch 22. Experience is much better than a certifacation, but no one will higher you to get experience without the certification.
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    Ya_Know is right. Instead of spending the money on a boot camp, spend the money on a lab and some good books. You can find some really nice, really cheap hardware on Ebay.

    I had an interview once right after I got my CCNA. The guy asked me 'what's the syntax for NATing an interface with an overload?' I didn't know. I studied to pass a test and not to run the router. But, you type those commands 15 or 20 times and bam, they're in your head to stay.
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  6. February 17th, 2004, 05:30 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by silencio
    Ya_Know is right. Instead of spending the money on a boot camp, spend the money on a lab and some good books. You can find some really nice, really cheap hardware on Ebay.

    I had an interview once right after I got my CCNA. The guy asked me 'what's the syntax for NATing an interface with an overload?' I didn't know. I studied to pass a test and not to run the router. But, you type those commands 15 or 20 times and bam, they're in your head to stay.


    Well, The boot camp price is $2,200. What would you suggest buying to be able to effectively study hands on myself?
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  7. February 17th, 2004, 06:18 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirWise
    Well, The boot camp price is $2,200. What would you suggest buying to be able to effectively study hands on myself?
    Here's one from a quick search on ebay for Cisco Lab.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=28033
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